Steve Jobs on CNBC

[Sun Baked]

The 15" iMac has a long life yet, maybe.

If this MW is any example expect the 15" iMac to stick around, not only does the new PowerBook 12 have a reduce footprint - it's less money.

The iMac staying in the mix means that the day of killing the eMac is that much closer - when a 15" iMac price drops low enough they can decide whether or not to kill the eMac.

Bigger is not always better, when your pricing the product out of reach of the customers waiting for the price of your products to fall.

Those school contracts are important, they need products on the low-end - the G3 iMac is the product that fills the gap right now, the eMac in the future, and probably the 15" iMac later.

Should be interesting to see if the eMac takes the place of the CRT iMac or not this round of upgrades.

 

[Bear]

Re: The 15" iMac has a long life yet, maybe.

Originally posted by Sun Baked
The iMac staying in the mix means that the day of killing the eMac is that much closer - when a 15" iMac price drops low enough they can decide whether or not to kill the eMac.

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Should be interesting to see if the eMac takes the place of the CRT iMac or not this round of upgrades.

I would say the CRT iMac will probably go away first. The eMac is liable to be around for a good long while as CRTs are better able to handle the abuse of a school environment then an LCD screen would. At least with the current state of the art.

 

[Bear]

Re: Steve Jobs on CNBC

Originally posted by Macrumors
ThinkSecret covers Steve Jobs' interview on CNBC's Business Center tonight.

Jobs discussed the new Powerbook line and their siginficance in 2003... but also hints towards PowerMac updates:

quote: "We've got some good things up our sleeve in the desktop area too."

I would have to say that the "desktop area" would include also the eMac and the iMac lines as well.

Although in truth, I think we'll see upgrades everywhere throughout the year. I expect 802.11g and FireWire2 to be in all the laptops and desktops by MWNY as well as BlueTooth in at least the laptops if not all the machines.

 

[iShater]

I'm gonna go wild on this one and predict new PowerMacs in before March. Let's see here, Firewire 800 is now available, but ONLY on the new PB. New firewire harddrives are coming out before March, it is enough time to have a slight boost in speed, so maybe we will see 1.5Ghz machines supporting APE, Firewire 800 and will boot only in OS X.

They might be even cheaper than the existing machines.

 

[NicoMan]

Re: Cattle

Originally posted by PretendPCuser
Ok, who is ready for today's lesson of the Stock Market and Events?

Analysts hype up any company before a big event, people see it as a buy and they buy. Smart investors know that after the event, the stock price goes down, so they sell it BEFORE the event when it's still on it's upswing. They may not get the top price, but beats losing. And since all the big players have got out, guess what, the price starts to go down and then all of a sudden, the analysts come back after the event and say things like this, "well, it wasn't a total knockout, so it looks bleak". Spin, spin spin!! There's more ways to take money from the little guy than meets the eye. Believe it.

You are right... to a point.
My experience as a trader (I do that for a living) is that you don't really need analysts to really hype up the stuff. Basically, before any event when something is expected, the market gets hyped but not just by analysts, it is more of an overall market feeling, like a rumour spreading and everyone wants to get in on it (when I say everyone, it is more about the professional people, the one who get the info first, who get in first ie who buy the rumour).
Usually the small investor/enthusiast gets the info (if he ever gets the info) rather late and buys the rumour just before the event... then the thing expected happens, and then you see droves of investors (who never got on the train in the first place) who come and buy after the fact, and that's when the professionals and/or the smart money sells.
This is also known as "buy the rumour, sell the fact" for all those of you who watch CNBC or Bloomberg TV all day....

But then you are right the little guy always gets robbed in the end.
Ok it is rather pessimistic and overly simplified, but trust me that happens A LOT. That's kind of my job. And that's why I don't trade stocks as an individual (legally I can because I don't trade stocks in my job, but other products...).

Anyway... for those I haven't bored to death, I say do not worry about the AAPL stock going down after the keynote. It is rather normal.

Cheer up guys.

NicoMan

 

[TMJ1974]

Re: Re: hmmmm is right.

Originally posted by yosoyjay


HP can lose billions and easily rebound and make billions more next year. They are a huge company with lots stuff that does not run Windows and uses RISC based processors. Plus they are very hip to Linux on business stuff so lets not go overboard and make silly simple comparisons and conclusions.

Just to clarify, I wasn't making any conclusion about HP. I'm well aware that they will rebound. My statement was directed at analysts...both companies are in similar situations, part of the product line isn't selling, while another is, yet, analysts say one company is doomed and the other isn't. My point was that it is ironic that the (currently) profitable company is the one that is doomed.

 

[barkmonster]

I'm no stockmarket person but even I can see there's something pretty damn negative about this!

Not the end of apple obvously but certainly undeniably pathetic over the past year or so.

 

[ELYXR]

If you think that's bad... look at all the other tech companies sales between 2000 and 2002. Everything in "tech-land" came to a halt in mid-2001, except for Dell of course. I think Apple weathered that suprisingly well considering all the companies that went out of business or had to merge to stay alive. *cough* *cough-AOL* *cough-Compaq* *Ch-*.

 

[OnaMacSince1989]

Updated eMacs / iMacs

My 3yr old iMac 400DV is starting to feel a little slow these days and I really was hoping to hear about iMac and eMac updates and price drops at MWSF cuz I'm itchin to buy a new one! I'll happily wait a few more months though if Apple has something great up it's sleaves aside from minor bumps in chip and bus speeds. ** Maybe they are still putting the finishing touches on a super new AppleWorks to include on the next desktop upgrades - I love MS Office, but I'm no power user at home and even the current discounted price of $200 w/mac purchase is still pretty steep for a light user. ** Like some of you, I hope they are also waiting until they can make a major speed bump, instead of another 100-200mhz. ** I would love to see Apple include wireless keyboards and mice (with 2 buttons!) with new e/iMacs too! ** And, how bout some new colors!?! I miss the old choices - it was just a nice touch of personalization.

Bring it on Steve...I've got Christmas money burnin a hole in my pocket!

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by barkmonster
I'm no stockmarket person but even I can see there's something pretty damn negative about this!

Not the end of apple obvously but certainly undeniably pathetic over the past year or so.

I'm sure that bar graph could describe a lot of comanies right now. IMO Apple is pretty par for the course if not better.


Lethal

 

[merges]

Keep in mind that Apple still hasn't reported earnings for the most recent quarter; they report on January 15.

 

[OnaMacSince1989]

Updated eMacs / iMacs

My 3yr old iMac 400DV is starting to feel a little slow these days and I really was hoping to hear about iMac and eMac updates and price drops at MWSF cuz I'm itchin to buy a new one! I'll happily wait a few more months though if Apple has something great up it's sleaves aside from minor bumps in chip and bus speeds. ** Maybe they are still putting the finishing touches on a super new AppleWorks to include on the next desktop upgrades - I love MS Office, but I'm no power user at home and even the current discounted price of $200 w/mac purchase is still pretty steep for a light user. ** Like some of you, I hope they are also waiting until they can make a major speed bump, instead of another 100-200mhz. ** I would love to see Apple include wireless keyboards and mice (with 2 buttons!) with new e/iMacs too! ** And, how bout some new colors!?! I miss the old choices - it was just a nice touch of personalization.

Bring it on Steve...I've got Christmas money burnin a hole in my pocket!