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I wish I could disable them

I find home page wallpapers to be a huge distraction. I liked having a photo on my lock screen, but much preferred a black background to the app icons.

I wish I could just disable this new "feature" without using a solid black photo (since I'd lose my lock screen photo).
 
8GB iPhone 3GS - $499 you are buying in June 2010 will be limited in hardware once you reach 2012, and who is limiting your hardware?
 
Yeah, turn off the new shading and shadows. Real hard. You telling me Apple couldn't have simply turned those off in the older versions of phones/Touches? Get a clue.

Apple doesn't wanna do that because it makes it look rubbish. As a company, they'd rather not include the feature than affect their brand.
 
Before, if you had a lot of white in your wallpaper, your icons and text would simply blend in and disappear. It was awful. You basically had to make sure that your wallpaper was primarily a dark color if you wanted to see or read what was on your home screen. The new "ClearType" effect on the text is a very welcome change.
Good to know. I was curious about this so I started reading some thoughts on this from old jailbreakers and the other thing I heard a lot was that text effects looked pretty terrible as well (in approaches where they weren't disabled entirely). It sounds like what we have here is much more advanced text effects in iOS 4 which calls for much more advanced interaction between layers of transparency with backgrounds.

One might not expect something like this to be a big deal, but it is. It is an issue in web design, for example. Mess around too much with transparency and you're going to start seeing jerkiness and slowdowns on older computers or when associating with older processors. I imagine what happened here is that, due to the new text effects, some jerkiness was introduced when the drop-shadows animated against the background on these devices, and that was enough for ol' perfectionist Steve to toss it out.

The arguments of, "It worked before, so I don't know why Apple screwed this up?" are assuming everything has remained the same—which it hasn't. It's always nice to read a little into these things.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how things run after the inevitable jailbreak and enabling of these features on older iDevices.

Apple doesn't wanna do that because it makes it look rubbish. As a company, they'd rather not include the feature than affect their brand.
Yep: for better or worse, that's how Apple rolls. They'd rather disable a feature on older devices than introduce another tier of hackery to make it work (a big factor here is increasing their exposure to maintaining older devices), and they're unlikely to make sacrifices to user experience. While it may seem out of place at times this attitude is a part of what makes their devices such a pleasure to use.
 
8GB iPhone 3GS - $499 you are buying in June 2010 will be limited in hardware once you reach 2012, and who is limiting your hardware?

They're not limiting their hardware. It's the hardware they are offering. It's their 'budget' phone.
 
Probably about $300 I'd guess to manafacture. We'll need iFixit to give an accurate figure on that (excluding R&D as normal).

And your point is?

The iPhone 3GS 16GB with out a contract was $599 too, but for raw parts costs and the amount Apple paid coxcomb for assembling the phone is around $170-$190. So Apple does get slot of cash from each sale as AT&T pays Apple the full pricewhen you buy one with a contract, and then you pay At&T back by paying your bill.

I can't imagine the iPhone 4 32GB costing more than $200 for parts and foxconn to assemble it. But yes some actual R&D went into iPhone 4. Like the super strong glass and steel band antenna system, high quality display, and A4 chip.
 
this screams out apple creating software tiers for hardware limitations... I mean we see this in almost every other form of electronic device markets... A simple software limitation intentioned by the manufacture to create levels of product to force the end user to spend money on upgrading an otherwise perfectly useful device. This kind of grey-business practice is something which is appauling to me, but kind of expected by me from apple at some point...

It just makes me sad that day has finally arrived...

Goodbye 1st generation Ipod Touch, you have been deemed useless by apple.

Posts like this make me angry.

Your iPod touch does EXACTLY what it was advertised to do the day you bought it. Hell, I have one too. I don't expect it to keep being upgraded. Anyone that knows anything about computer hardware knows that you can't keep upgraded software without eventually having to upgrade the hardware.
 
They aren't missing much, I find the screen a lot harder to read andd switched to the darkest wallpaper I could. Can't find an option for a plain black screen anywhere yet.

I read a suggestion somewhere else to cover your camera, then take a picture. Voila! Black home screen.

I tried this and just doing a little testing, I think having a black home screen speeds up the animation a bit when opening apps.

Who knows exactly why it doesn't work. An earlier poster makes a good point: for unsupported devices, you didn't have it before, and you still don't have it. Move on...
 
Good to know. I was curious about this so I started reading some thoughts on this from old jailbreakers and the other thing I heard a lot was that the drop-shadow looked pretty terrible as well. It sounds like what we have here is much more advanced text effects in iOS 4 which calls for much more advanced interaction between layers of transparency with backgrounds.

One might not expect something like this to be a big deal, but it is. It is an issue in web design, for example. Mess around too much with transparency and you're going to start seeing jerkiness and slowdowns on older computers or when associating with older processors. I imagine what happened here is that, due to the new text effects, some jerkiness was introduced when the drop-shadows animated against the background on these devices, and that was enough for ol' perfectionist Steve to toss it out.

The arguments of, "It worked before, so I don't know why Apple screwed this up?" are assuming everything has remained the same—which it hasn't. It's always nice to read a little into these things.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how things run after the inevitable jailbreak and enabling of these features on older iDevices.

Yeah, I think that's why iBooks runs slow on an iPhone 3G aswell. New CoreText APIs were brought in iOS4. It seems the older hardware struggles with that.
 
My 3GS is also slower with the background enabled. The animation is only just acceptable. I would go back to no background if that was possible. Just to feel the snappiness I had before....

Tried if there is a difference between hires or normal res backgrounds, but there seems none.

Huh, my 3GS is screaming fast with the new iOS.
 
I find home page wallpapers to be a huge distraction. I liked having a photo on my lock screen, but much preferred a black background to the app icons.

I wish I could just disable this new "feature" without using a solid black photo (since I'd lose my lock screen photo).

Set a black image for your home screen background. You can set it separately from the lock screen background.

jW
 
this screams out apple creating software tiers for hardware limitations... I mean we see this in almost every other form of electronic device markets... A simple software limitation intentioned by the manufacture to create levels of product to force the end user to spend money on upgrading an otherwise perfectly useful device. This kind of grey-business practice is something which is appauling to me, but kind of expected by me from apple at some point...

It just makes me sad that day has finally arrived...

Goodbye 1st generation Ipod Touch, you have been deemed useless by apple.

That kind of practice has been going on for a decade. Look at the iPods. There were many features that were purely software based that were not intensive that Apple could have sold or given to older model owners, but they didn't. Nothing new. Think about the 30 and 60 GB iPods (first ones that could play video), Apple added features like search and FM radio (w/ remote) on the 30 and 80 GB update that could have easily been used on the 30 and 60 GB, but they didn't.
In this case though, it appears the hardware limitations were true. But they could have at least allowed a non shadowed wallpaper somehow.
 
Apple really has no incentive to support legacy products.
Of course they do. One of the selling points of the iPhone is that you will get software updates for the next few major releases. Being left out version n+1 is a major reason not to buy an Android phone.
 
Yeah, turn off the new shading and shadows. Real hard. You telling me Apple couldn't have simply turned those off in the older versions of phones/Touches? Get a clue.

ummm, you're a genius. the comment i was responding to wasn't about what apple couldve done, but a direct comparison between apple's method and a JB method.

yeah, if apple had provided a scaled down version that more closely matched a JB method then maybe it would perform similarly. but they didn't did they?

learn to read
 
Anyone who thinks this is ******** obviously never did any graphics programming.

The iPhone is an embedded system, embedded systems are very limited. Just because some graphical effect seems "easy" to the user doesn't mean its easy on the system.

Drop shadows, transparency, and the new fade effect on the home screen are quite processor intensive. There is a lot under the hood to do something like that.

Now, that coupled with all of the other things going on in the iPhone under the hood to make it operate like a phone will cause lag on an older system.
 
iOS 4 (as well as 3.1 on the iPad) don't just drop a wallpaper behind, there's a large shadow that is drawn bottom to top over the wallpaper, as well as each icon has it's own dropshadow. In addition the wallpaper reflects into the dock.

In addition there are completely new animations for the homescreen.

Jailbroken wallpapers do not do it the same way. Obviously Apple could have just disabled the dropshadow + effects for the 3G but they chose to either enable or disable features that didn't work as intended rather than strip it down.

If Apple is so concerned with battery life (ie multitasking not included until now) then why are they using dropshadow effects that drain more battery no matter how little.
 
Apple has to make a profit.
Only way to do that is sell more hardware.
People wont move to the next model if you add most of the cool features to an old model.
I would be upset also if I has a 3g but if you want your phone to have everything, just jailbreak it.
 
Apple doesn't wanna do that because it makes it look rubbish. As a company, they'd rather not include the feature than affect their brand.

This doesn't explain the idiotic notification system nor their reluctance to allow for custom SMS tones (or hell, to even add some new ones!).
 
Wait, what?

I have a loaded 2006 Dodge Grand Caravan.

Dodge released a 2008 Grand Caravan, and they added satellite TV, multiple DVD players, satellite traffic and NAV, a more powerful _and_ fuel efficient engine, back up camera, power and heated seats, window shades, and swivel-n-go.

At the same time they released a new firmware flash for my 2006 Dodge which improved my transmission shift points, cold weather performance, and engine stability.

When I went in to get my software update, I found out that I wouldn't get the extra fuel economy and horsepower that came with the 2008!

Those bastards at Dodge.

So I went and found a mechanic with a tool that can reprogram my engine mapping. He modified my throttle response, timing, and gave me a couple extra horsepower and a bit more torque lower down. However, the engine now runs louder and clunks a little when shifting under load.

I emailed the CEO of Dodge and he said that the roughness and unreliability of the reprogramming on the engine was not supported by Dodge, and in fact made the 2006 less reliable and unattractive.

What a liar. Why don't I get all the gucci new stuff that came out on the 2008?

I mean, I purchased a product several years ago - isn't it the manufacturers responsibility to make sure it gets upgraded with every new feature that comes out on any new version for as long as I own the product?

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I have an original iPhone, that is 3 years old. It still works as good as day 1. I even still have a full days worth of heavy use on my battery. I am completely satisfied with the original iPhone, and in fact it would probably work fine for three more years. But I am excited to get a new iPhone 4 for the new features - Apple does not owe me anything. In fact Apple has, over the last three years - enhanced and added features to the original iPhone (now on 3.1.3 software!) that it didn't have when I purchased it...

How spoiled are people to complain about crap like this?
 
I can't get multitasking on my first generation iPod shuffle. Curse you, Steve Jobs! Now my shuffle is useless!
 
Apple needs to go back and actually OPTIMIZE the iPhone 3G experience -- there are no appreciable new features for iPhone 3G users, so the performance should be on par with iPhone OS 3.
The iPhone 3G has 128 MB of RAM, compared to the 3GS's 256 and the iPhone 4's 512.

There's only so much you can do, for God's sake. Rendering bouncing icons with drop shadows requires it to redraw the background for every single frame. It's — unsurprisingly — a somewhat processor/GPU intensive task.
 
For anyone who has jailbroken their phone (4.0) for JUST wallpapers (I turned off multi-tasking) he's 100% right.

Go ahead and try it. Your phone is much, much slower with a wallpaper enabled.

Everyone bitches about how "slow their 3g is" yet they want something that will make it slower. :rolleyes:

Of course, they could have found a way to make it more efficient if they really wanted to...

+1 I did just that... and the phone is soooo slow and laggy I thought that someone had loaded up a windows os onto it.

I thought it was cool for a few days but it just was not worth it.
 
Where? I just see Settings->Wallpaper. It shows previews for both screens, but looks like they're both set together. I hope you're right though.

Set a black image for your home screen background. You can set it separately from the lock screen background.

jW
 
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