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Troll! :p

Most people who change the world and influence people don't know or like them.
As far as any compay goes, apple care about thier customers.
But this isn't about apple, this is about steve, oh lovely steve, I may write a song, and i'll do it on garageband!
Oh Stevie,
I love your keynotes,
you make me happy,
you make me feel good about life

Oh stevie,
you make me superior,
I love you,
Oh, and one other thing...

PowerBook G5!
 
James Philp said:
Troll! :p

Most people who change the world and influence people don't know or like them.
As far as any compay goes, apple care about thier customers.
But this isn't about apple, this is about steve, oh lovely steve, I may write a song, and i'll do it on garageband!
Oh Stevie,
I love your keynotes,
you make me happy,
you make me feel good about life

Oh stevie,
you make me superior,
I love you,
Oh, and one other thing...

PowerBook G5!


Even a troll would appreciate that song. ;)

There's an element of devil's advocate in what I was saying, but chill out guys, you've convinced me, although I refuse to bow down and worship him the way that you do.

Still think my 'sugar water' quote was a classic ! :)
 
I saw this yesterday when grocery shopping. Go Steve!! :D You kick a lot of ass. ^-^ You turned the Mac lineups from boring beige boxes to things of beauty. Just dont go back to doing acid. That stuff f***s ya up :cool:
 
CelticBhoy said:
Steve is not interested in you. Neither is Apple. But they are interested in making money out of you. They are not your friend. They offer a product which you like and admire, but so do car manufacturers.

There are several ways of making money on a product, for the sake of simplicity I'll narrow it down to 2:

1 - make some crap and spend millions on advertisement...

2 - Spend your millions on R&D to make sure you make an innovative quality product

I think Apple/Steve Jobs has opted for the 2nd solution. Very few cars from the past 50 years has been as innovative as fx the iSomething-with-a-capital-letter that Apple has produced.

A

edit - Celticbhoy, glad you've changes your mind since that post :D
 
CelticBhoy said:
PS My mac 'heritage' goes back to 1985, so I am no recent switcher.
Maybe that is why you don't see the genius of Steve squared (Woz and SJ).

I started earlier with Apple during the Apple 1 and ][ era. I also was into mainframes, minis and such. And yes, I started out with DOS 1.0.

Since I use both platforms (Winders and Mac) each and every day, I really appreciate what the Mac represents.

If you really started with a Mac in 1985, then you know about the inside of the case. Name one PC developement team that put their names on the inside of a computer out of pride.

The big question you should ask yourself, is where would Windows be withoout the Mac? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at Window's API's to see their lineage from the original Mac's API's.

Anyhow, I find it very surprising that you would say what you do -- especially your reference to Linux which is far from being a personal computer OS that is usable.

...sounds like a Troll to me.

Sushi
 
Apple crafted and refined the desktop environment under Job's reign.

No, they didn't have the first one.
No, they don't have the most of them out there.

But imagine Windows XP without the Mac to copy from the beginning. It's not difficult. It's impossible, because there would BE no Windows without the Mac.

If you appreciate ANY ease of use with your computer (or your handheld musical device of choice), then you owe a large dose of gratitude to Apple computer and their appreciation for the user experience. Same goes if you appreciate computer related items that don't look like they were made from spare parts of an old Battlestar Galactica model. Steve Jobs created the mindset of the company that allowed this to happen and flourish. Style, inside and out...
 
CelticBhoy said:
Even a troll would appreciate that song. ;)

There's an element of devil's advocate in what I was saying, but chill out guys, you've convinced me, although I refuse to bow down and worship him the way that you do.

Still think my 'sugar water' quote was a classic ! :)


CelticBhoy gave up awhile back guys, no need to keep fighting him :p
 
altair said:
CelticBhoy gave up awhile back guys, no need to keep fighting him :p


I was just a bit bored and thought I'd go on the wind-up. There's always some who fall for it ;) I'm obviously a troll who owns a mac :p

btw, does anyone know if Steve is actually off the acid now ?
 
James Philp said:
Linux will not give you this (any comparisons on stability of the two?)

OFF TOPIC:

Yes. Linux is more stable. 60% of the Top 500 Super Computers run Linux. The reason why is Stability, Performance and Compatibility.

Of the 3 OS X systems in the Top500 I can personally attest to the fact that OS X has NOT been very stable. I can also attest to the FACT that 1 of the 3 systems has converted to Linux and another one is going thru testing right now with a high possibility to switch to Linux.

Yes I agree for the end user OS X is better than Linux. It is in someways better than Windows too but since it only runs on Macs a true comparison can't really be made. It is comparing machine plus OS versus just an OS.

ON TOPIC:

Steve Jobs has been influential in the Computer Business. He is not a household name though.
 
CelticBhoy said:
I just want him to do somethig that makes the whole world sit up and take notice. Sure he's revived Apple, but lots of people I speak to will know very little about him, what he does, and what he stands for. Let's be honest, there was a thread recently about how lots of people out there think Bill Gates invented the iPod !

Then people obviously don't know any more about Bill Gates than they do about S. Jobs. Most people don't know about about Gates, Jobs, Dell, or any other tech power hitter. A lot of people think Microsoft is the sole provider of all things computer-related, including the Internet.


~loserman~ said:
Yes. Linux is more stable. 60% of the Top 500 Super Computers run Linux. The reason why is Stability, Performance and Compatibility.

Of the 3 OS X systems in the Top500 I can personally attest to the fact that OS X has NOT been very stable. I can also attest to the FACT that 1 of the 3 systems has converted to Linux and another one is going thru testing right now with a high possibility to switch to Linux.

Yes I agree for the end user OS X is better than Linux. It is in someways better than Windows too but since it only runs on Macs a true comparison can't really be made. It is comparing machine plus OS versus just an OS.

Supercomputers have been running Unix-based OSs for a long time, and I'm hearing more and more about modern ones running Linux-based OSs.

Maybe OS X is not suited for supercomputers. No OS can be good in every area. However, I've never heard of a supercomputer running any kind of MS Windows! :p
 
Apple Hobo said:
Maybe OS X is not suited for supercomputers. No OS can be good in every area. However, I've never heard of a supercomputer running any kind of MS Windows! :p

Actually it isn't that bad. It just has low user/kernel limits.
And poor memory management.
Otherwise it's OK.

As to Windows... believe it or not there is one in the TOP500

#194 a 640 processor 2.4Ghz Xeon @ 1.5 Teraflops.
 
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