Steve Jobs' Requirements for 'Fit and Finish' Leading to Massive Cost Overruns for Apple's New Campus

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    In a lengthy report today, Bloomberg Businessweek takes a look at Apple's upcoming "spaceship" campus in Cupertino, noting that the project is currently one year behind schedule and roughly $2 billion over budget.
    According to the report, Apple is working to shave $1 billion from the cost of the project before beginning construction.

    Bloomberg Businessweek pins much of the responsibility for the cost issues on Steve Jobs, whose insistence on design and construction quality as well as unusual and expensive construction methods have defined the project.
    Among other unique details contributing to project costs:

    - 6 square kilometers of curved glass manufactured by Seele in Germany using specialized processes to prevent clouding or distortions. Seele has doubled the size of its production facility to accommodate the project.

    - Per Jobs' orders, gaps between surfaces should be no more than 1/32 of an inch, far tighter than the typical 1/8 inch standard in U.S. construction.

    - Polished concrete ceilings are to be cast in molds and then raised into position to ensure uniformity, rather than being cast in place. The requirement "left one person involved in the project speechless."

    The report notes that investors concerned over Apple's falling stock price and looking for the company to return more cash to shareholders are questioning Apple's commitment to following through on Jobs' vision for the new campus. The company may, however, have little choice in the matter if it seeks to maintain its image as an iconic and visionary company in the post-Jobs era.

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  2. idkew macrumors 68020


    Sep 26, 2001
    where the concrete to dirt ratio is better
  3. Kissaragi macrumors 68020

    Nov 16, 2006
    They have the money, why not make something amazing.
  4. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816


    Apr 12, 2007
    They have 140 billion on the bank. They can afford it. I hope they stay true to the vision of Jobs.
  5. davie18 macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2010
    They should make the pond in the centre the shape of the apple logo.
  6. Klae17 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2011
    How does this translate to their products? Steve wanted perfection at any cost. How do we as consumers know we are getting great products if this is the direction Apple will be taking?
  7. Arcus macrumors 6502a

    Dec 28, 2004
    of my hand will get me slapped.
    Meh. While I admire the attempt to create something great, why bother? I would think most people want their products to be good and could not give a crap about the building.

    Idea to shave about 4 billion. Make it a normal building.
  8. peteullo macrumors regular

    Dec 13, 2009
    Scranton, PA
    These are the things you have to love about Steve Jobs... He was always strived for perfection. Impressive!
  9. SatManager macrumors 6502


    Feb 20, 2012
    Las Vegas
  10. Bonte macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2002
    Bruges, Belgium
    1/32 of an inch, won't this be problematic with the materials and temperatures?
  11. iScott428 macrumors regular


    Feb 23, 2011
    Orlando, FL
    If you are going to spend billions on a new building, you had better do it right. I would probably take a vacation just to marvel at the beauty of the building and campus. Some folks just will not understand that. What is 2 billion more to Apple really??
  12. Tankmaze macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2012
    hopefully its finish before finding dory premiere. :D
  13. Krazy Bill macrumors 68030

    Krazy Bill

    Dec 21, 2011
    The price of the 5S and all MBP's just went up. :eek:

    You need a good woman my friend.
  14. sputnikv macrumors 6502


    Oct 3, 2009
  15. dakwar macrumors 6502

    Nov 2, 2010
  16. GoldenJoe macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2011
    I'm all for spending the money you earn however you like, and I appreciate fine craftsmanship, but it sounds like much of the cost here arose from arbitrary requirements. I don't really care what Apple does (it's not open to the public anyway), but if I were in their position, I think I would have opted for a second smaller campus on the east coast instead of allowing the budget to balloon. :D
  17. bazinga!! macrumors regular


    Apr 25, 2012
    Steve was brilliant but a nutcase when it comes to interior design. He even once ordered to paint the machines in his production hall when his father or mother came to visit (I don't remember which one) and several machines broke down.
  18. Arran macrumors 68040


    Mar 7, 2008
    Atlanta, USA
  19. Northgrove macrumors 65816

    Aug 3, 2010
    What happens with all the rest of the wood? Just discarded? Ridiculous demands like this often don't feel very environmentally friendly.
  20. MattJessop macrumors regular


    Apr 24, 2007
    Manchester, UK
    I've gotta be honest, the level of dedication and perfection they put into this should match what they claim to do for products. They have the money, so I say why not.

    Is it the most efficient way to spend the money? No. But that drive for perfection should really be embodied in every facet of the company if thats the standard you expect, including the building. That's what I like about Apple, the tiny little details that make such a difference.
  21. iScott428 macrumors regular


    Feb 23, 2011
    Orlando, FL
    For those that question the need for a building like this read up on the Pixar studios and how the layout of the offices provides for an unparalleled collaborative effort between departments.
  22. thepowerofnone macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2011
    I don't think that you understand the importance of the building - its a symbol of Apple and Steve clearly wanted the building to reflect the products. People don't seem to appreciate just how crazy the tolerances on the iPhone 5 are and how much they must cost to implement, but at the end of the day they make the device what it is. Compare the iPhone 5 and the new BB Z10, they have similar designs but the iPhone 5 is put together in more expensive and complex ways at high tolerance, but the result is a significantly more impressive product. Its the same with buildings.
  23. spacepower7 macrumors 68000

    May 6, 2004
    News source:
    I predict a massive $2 billion cost overrun on a project that hasn't broken ground or even hired contractors yet.

    Where are the facts?
  24. ArtOfWarfare macrumors 604


    Nov 26, 2007
    If Apple doesn't go with it, then the entire company is dead to me.

    I don't even know who's products I would buy anymore. I think I would have to found my own company just to replace Apple, just so I can have products built to the standards that Apple had when Jobs was at the healm.

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