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Doubtful since their warranty does not transfer to a second hand buyer. If I were to buy an iPod and then sell it on ebay a few weeks later the new owner would not be covered.

Apple dont check receipts, they check serial numbers. So long as its within the standard warranty period, or there is a flag to say that its covered by extended Apple Care, its covered. They dont care who you got it from.

Its also law. They are legally not allowed to refuse a manufacturers warranty based on which shop you bought it from (At least in the UK - it would be mind numbingly idiotic of any government to allow them to refuse it).
 
Doubtful since their warranty does not transfer to a second hand buyer. If I were to buy an iPod and then sell it on ebay a few weeks later the new owner would not be covered.

Hmm, Well If I want to try out an item and then resell it later I ask the retailer for a gift receipt which doesn't list a name, but just a price & Date of Purchase. Then when I sell it I just include the gift receipt to the buyer and the warranty is good for them also.
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Its also law. They are legally not allowed to refuse a manufacturers warranty based on which shop you bought it from (At least in the UK - it would be mind numbingly idiotic of any government to allow them to refuse it).
In the UK, you are contracted to the retailer you bought it from. They are responsible for the product for six years. We have good laws in place to protect the consumer. I find it hard to understand why people never use their rights under laws such as the Sales of Goods Act.

A warranty is an insurance policy. Apple Care in the UK is not a policy from Apple, but a third party insurance company that they are contracted with. Can't remember the name of the company.

Apple are pretty good at repairing out of guarantee/Apple Care products, even when these times have lapsed. Had a power supply and logic board in my 4 year old iMac replaced for free. Sales of Goods Act is your best friend. :)
 
It is a business model, dummy!

You need to ask yourselves a questions: How these stores operating? and Why products end up there?

Apparently, some authorized retailers overstock iPads or could not move projected volume, so they dumped some unsold inventory to Marshalls and TJMax, just to get some cash back, quick.

Overstocked with iPads??? Not a good news for Steve.

What is the issue here? iPads are sold in Walmart and Target and nobody complains.
 
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I'm certain TJ MAXX ran this by their legal team...

If they are willing to sell the product at a $100 loss, that's their choice. You may not have a warranty, etc, because they aren't "authorized" by Apple as a price-controlled reseller, but that doesn't mean it's illegal for them to sell it.

I sold my iPad on craigslist at a loss. I'm not authorized to do that and Steve doesn't care.

Completely false. You most certainly have the right to sell your iPad on craigslist, thanks to the first sale doctrine.

I wonder if Costco was starting to get a few iPads from Apple when they decided that Apple wasn't playing fair, and just sold them at cost to Marshall's.
 
Can Apple really stop TJ Maxx from selling their iPads?

I thought the Authorised Reseller Programme was just that: an "Apple-certified" or "Apple-approved" reseller? Surely any reseller who doesn't have this "sign of approval" still can sell the iPad?

I don't really know the answer to that since every store which I've seen here in the UK which sells Apple products are authorised resellers.

Sorry if it's obvious, it's just that the response makes it sound like only retailers approved by Apple can sell their products; sort of like a cease and desist threat.

I think all the discussion on this thread about Authorized Resellers and what Apple could or could not do is really funny. In the break on this story was the following ad...obviously NOT an Authorized Reseller.
 

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why would you write to him about this?

do you wanna talk to steve that badly, or are you just mad because you bought yours somewhere else for a higher price?

Well Duh....

I would guess a little of both.

Who WOULDN"T want to talk to Steve Jobs. My only problem is I wouldn't know what to say.
 
You need to ask yourselves a questions: How these stores operating? and Why products end up there?

Apparently, some authorized retailers overstock iPads or could not move projected volume, so they dumped some unsold inventory to Marshalls and TJMax, just to get some cash back, quick.

Overstocked with iPads??? Not a good news for Steve.

What is the issue here? iPads are sold in Walmart and Target and nobody complains.


I think the biggest issue with it comes from the actual Apple authorized retailers. For instance, in my line of work (golf course management), I purchase golf equipment directly from the manufacturers (Callaway Golf, Nike, Titleist, etc). To be able to do that, I HAVE to agree to a minimum advertised pricing (MAP) policy, or I can't buy directly from them nor be listed as a retailer of that company's products (any retailer buying from directly from the manufacturer has to abide by this). If I then saw a major retailer (a competitor) advertising products that I sell for significantly lower than I am allowed to (knowing that all official retailers are supposed to be bound by this agreement to even sell the products as an "authorized retailer"), then I'm going to be pretty upset as to why I have to abide by it to get my goods, when either they (the competitor discounting said merchandise) aren't, or either they are getting a cheaper price (allowing them to sell for a lower price than me, yet still keep similar profit margins). And if they are in violation of this MAP policy, I'm going to damn sure be wondering why the manufacturer (in the iPad case...Apple), isn't going after them (telling them to stop, if they are an authorized retailer), or pulling their account. In the golf business, the manufacturers go hard after companies that violate this MAP policy.
 
This is not at all strange to anyone who knows the basic business model of TJ Maxx. They buy odd overstock lots of goods, mostly clothes, so they can sell them at a deep discount.

With the rollout of the iPad to numerous new retailers, there were, by extension, numerous opportunities for someone to get overstock. Perhaps Verizon mis-estimated the popularity of the iPad bundled with the My-Fi. Perhaps Target guessed that people would prefer the 16 GB version when in fact the 32 and 64 were more popular. Perhaps someone simply needed to reduce orders to solve a cash flow problem.

In any case, once this happened, TJ Maxx did what they exist to do - stepped in and offered to buy the overstock at a discount so they could sell up. There's no controversy or mystery here - it's just that TJ Maxx managed to land a particularly good lot of stock.

(To clarify, I suspect that whatever retailer sold their stock to TJ Maxx did so at a loss. Did this violate their agreement with Apple? I'd be surprised if it did - there's surely a clause in most of the MAP contracts to deal with clearance/closeout pricing. Indeed, Amazon routinely undersells MAP - the only rule is they can't advertise those prices, so they require you to put the item in the cart to view the price. I assume that whatever retailer sold off their stock did not advertise, and instead contacted TJ Maxx, who I imagine they're used to doing business with, and came to an agreement to liquidate inventory.)
 
Doubtful since their warranty does not transfer to a second hand buyer. If I were to buy an iPod and then sell it on ebay a few weeks later the new owner would not be covered.

This is indeed what Apple's warranty document says. However, that clause might not be enforceable/legal in some jurisdictions.

In practice, Apple have always honored their warranty regardless of whether you're the original owner.
 
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maybe they bought out the stock from BJ's who is dropping the sales after coscos got them or was it the other way around? i forget
 
Steve please! Forget about it! If they bought them they can sell them! If someone bought them from a bunch of scumbags inside a stolen truck, they can sell them! So let tjmaxx and marshall alone you greedy son of a beach!
 
This is not at all strange to anyone who knows the basic business model of TJ Maxx. They buy odd overstock lots of goods, mostly clothes, so they can sell them at a deep discount.

With the rollout of the iPad to numerous new retailers, there were, by extension, numerous opportunities for someone to get overstock. Perhaps Verizon mis-estimated the popularity of the iPad bundled with the My-Fi. Perhaps Target guessed that people would prefer the 16 GB version when in fact the 32 and 64 were more popular. Perhaps someone simply needed to reduce orders to solve a cash flow problem.

In any case, once this happened, TJ Maxx did what they exist to do - stepped in and offered to buy the overstock at a discount so they could sell up. There's no controversy or mystery here - it's just that TJ Maxx managed to land a particularly good lot of stock.

(To clarify, I suspect that whatever retailer sold their stock to TJ Maxx did so at a loss. Did this violate their agreement with Apple? I'd be surprised if it did - there's surely a clause in most of the MAP contracts to deal with clearance/closeout pricing. Indeed, Amazon routinely undersells MAP - the only rule is they can't advertise those prices, so they require you to put the item in the cart to view the price. I assume that whatever retailer sold off their stock did not advertise, and instead contacted TJ Maxx, who I imagine they're used to doing business with, and came to an agreement to liquidate inventory.)

I agree with everything said here, except, I don't think it was big chain store with a continuing relationship with Apple. A company that wants to continue being an Apple Authorized Reseller wouldn't risk being cut off just to unload some overstocked iPads.

I'll bet it came from a bankrupt small or medium sized chain of stores. Perhaps a chain that only carried Apple stuff as a side line. In anycase, somebody who doesn't care if they p*ss off Apple, and get black-balled.
 
Tj Maxx Email

Actually i just wrote him the email because i was killing some time at work and i was curious of what the response would be. They are all sold out anyway.... its not like steve can make you return them. I'm also pretty sure Apple knew about it long before i sent the email.
 
Nope. It is true. Warranty from date of manufacture from non authorized retailer. Seen a couple threads with angry people because of this. Apple took the date of manufacture because the buyer bought from ebay.
 
Someone call the WAAAAA-Ambulance.....

The emailer is most likely an early adopter who feels cheated...

So is this guy going to write to Steve Jobs every time he finds an iPad on eBay for $100 less than retail? How about 1¢ auctions?

If TJ Maxx got their hands on enough stock who the F cares and go pick one up if you want one! I'm personally waiting for Gen 2 with FaceTime.

my sentiments exactly. why rain on other people's parade? elitist complex, much?
 
It goes to show you that they can still make a profit with $100 off. I guess the price gouging by Apple continues.

Not at all, companies sell things at a loss very often this time of year to get people in the door. It's called a loss leader.
 
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It goes to show you that they can still make a profit with $100 off. I guess the price gouging by Apple continues.

If you are worried by Apple's margins, you shouldn't buy software or clothes.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

It goes to show you that they can still make a profit with $100 off. I guess the price gouging by Apple continues.

You're making an assumption, and an unsubstantiated accusation....
 
Nope. It is true. Warranty from date of manufacture from non authorized retailer. Seen a couple threads with angry people because of this. Apple took the date of manufacture because the buyer bought from ebay.

Well, they are $100 cheaper...

Won't matter - people will be dumping these in Feb. when the new ones arrive... :eek:

;)
 
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