Your argument was that Linux is widely used. The point I was trying to make, is that this does not have anything to do with Linux itself, but simply there being no decent alternative. There is no competition.
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Your argument was that Linux is widely used. The point I was trying to make, is that this does not have anything to do with Linux itself, but simply there being no decent alternative. There is no competition.
Let's just say I believe you I still have to wonder why you had to bring up linux being non-special when I was just replying to a false claim. It seems to me your whole addition to this descussion is "OMGZ MAC RULES!!!1 LINUX IS TEH SUCKS!"
"The point I was trying to make, is that this does not have anything to do with Linux itself, but simply there being no decent alternative." This is purely subjective so your statement turns into "Linux is used because there is no other decent enough alternative for me and my purposes." Can't this be said about anything? Let's see how this goes: "I use Mac OS X because there is no decent enough alternative for me."
Also claiming there are no decent alternatives in the embedded market is just ignorant.
Finally I would like to bring up that we are only arguing about embedded since I brought it up, I could have also brought up the server market. I just wonder what your argument would have been if I had, would you still say no decent alternatives? Mac OS X server?
Yes, Linux is cheaper.
By the way, my statement was not subjective. As Steve just as well always said: if people like it, they will buy it, and if they don't, they won't! Same goes here (not necessarily with regards to buying, but simply using, of course).
By the way, my statement was not subjective. As Steve just as well always said: if people like it, they will buy it, and if they don't, they won't! Same goes here (not necessarily with regards to buying, but simply using, of course).
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Seriously wtf don't you get, more people do use linux! So if your metric is install base linux is a better system than mac os x. This is fact since you say it's not subjective.
edit: Also windows is objectively a better OS too according to your logic.
Have you heard of the book "Paradox of Choice"? Very interesting stuff.
On average, I imagine the vast majority of end users are better served with fewer choices than more. You may believe otherwise, but research has showed that more choices is likely to result in lower happiness.
For those that want to tinker, it is possible to tinker with OS X and iOS to varying degreesand Linux flavors and Android much more, obviously.
Yes, it is a bit tyrannical for Apple to be closed how it is. Fortunately, they tend towards benevolent dictator more often than not. For most, less choice really is a good thinggood defined as a positive computing experience.
Yeah, freedom of choice is totally overvalued. Just ask women under Sharia Law in Muslim countries how much they love being someone's property and getting beaten for showing anything but their eyes in public. Freedom sucks, after all. Hey, let's here it for dictatorships! You WILL be happier, after all. Choices in life are such horrible things.
Not just dictator, but a "benevolent" one. I'm confused. WTF is benevolent about Apple? Their high prices? Their lawsuits to try and sue other companies into oblivion? Their workers jumping out of windows in China? Their use of propriety hardware or formats so users can't buy stuff from other vendors? WTF is benevolent about them? Are they giving away free candy? You have to pay for their toys. Jobs never gave a dime to charity a day in his life from what I've read. Benevolent isn't in the Apple lexicon.
Why should he? Do you expect the book with all the things that do not work and a list of people who do not want to do is fill work for Steve Jobs?
This event is a feeling in the biography of Linus, because some of his beliefs, not to sign NDA and not give up on Linux because someone wants to buy the man behind her points. Linus also expressly states that feel a number of technological aspects of the idea to Steve for him and he told her.
This event is a feeling in the biography of Linus, because some of his beliefs, not to sign NDA and not give up on Linux because someone wants to buy the man behind her points. Linus also expressly states that feel a number of technological aspects of the idea to Steve for him and he told her.
BSD is Unix, not Linux and it's free without restrictions. I'd hardly say there is no competition. Besides, it sounds more like he meant no FREE competition since that is one of the things that attracts so many to Linux in the first place.
I'm also in the networking business, I work at a Teleport for a European satellite communication company.
Nobody from our technical staff --could-- use iOS gadgets because of Apple's app store policies and the restrictions that they impose on developers and that even makes simple wireless LAN sniffers "illegal". That's why we use mobile devices that run Android, which does not have any of the restrictive policies and where many useful apps are available in Google's store.
As for OS X, I'm no longer sure if I would really miss it. I invested a lot in software for OS X and losing that investment certainly hurts, both financially and because it turned out that I was backing the wrong horse for too long. But the fact remains that both Windows and Linux are better platforms for my professional purposes.
Yeah, freedom of choice is totally overvalued. Just ask women under Sharia Law in Muslim countries how much they love being someone's property and getting beaten for showing anything but their eyes in public. Freedom sucks, after all. Hey, let's here it for dictatorships! You WILL be happier, after all. Choices in life are such horrible things.
Not just dictator, but a "benevolent" one. I'm confused. WTF is benevolent about Apple? Their high prices? Their lawsuits to try and sue other companies into oblivion? Their workers jumping out of windows in China? Their use of propriety hardware or formats so users can't buy stuff from other vendors? WTF is benevolent about them? Are they giving away free candy? You have to pay for their toys. Jobs never gave a dime to charity a day in his life from what I've read. Benevolent isn't in the Apple lexicon.
Hmmm.
I hear your point about Sharia Law. Socially speaking, I tend towards the more liberal of the bunch.
At the same time, comparing Sharia Law to computer operating systems doesn't exactly fit in my mind as a helpful analogy.
Again, look into the book "Paradox of Choice".
Benevolent dictator. Again, keeping in scope with my comment about computer operating systems, I am totally comfortable with the concept. I'm not arguing that Apple is a source of Good in the world. That's a completely different question.
My opinion is that with respect to the operating systems that Apple creates, it is acting as a benevolent dictator and by limiting choice end users have a more positive computing experience.
We could discuss Sharia Law and the place of Steve Jobs and Apple in history and their contributions to humanity. But I think that is for a different forum.
We could also discuss MLK and JFK, both womanizers that accomplished some great things for the world. Are there components of their characters which are despicable? Many would argue there are. Does that diminish their accomplishments for the USA? Not a straightforward answer in my mind. And again, have no place in this forum.
Cheers.