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My Macs have never been slow to me, perhaps you are confusing your graphing calculator with an iBook?
The trouble is now, whenever Windows crashes they´ll say the totally unprovable line, Damned iTunes for Windows, this is the first time in 26 months of non-stop use my Dell has let me down.
Originally posted by G5orbust
Yep, thats Steve. Id like to say the pic looks authentic, but it just smells of photoshop from the quality and the angle discrepansies between his face and the screen .
Here is a picture of Steve Jobs:
My sister downloaded it onto her Compaq (1.6 GHz P4 and 256 megs RAM) she has no problems with it hogging resources anymore than any other program she runs.
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Interesting question. To be fair, you have to look at the bigger picture. Compared to the alternative, Apple's easier-to-use software interface, superior chip technology and hardware design are all no-brainers. Factor in not having to check for security and system software patch downloads every 10 minutes, and hours of recovering damaged or lost data, I'd say that Apple's number is more like 100 times faster.
Please tell me that was sarcasm. If that's the case, bravo. If not......
Hmmmm.... Let me know when your funeral is. That way I can come and laugh, saying "I told you so!"
There are certain things that just aren't said in these forums.
Amusing
This is what I find amusing. Here in Canada, one of the most respected newspapers, The National Post, posted articles of Apple's iTunes for Windows announcement expectation along with Apple's financial results - albeit chopped (not the full results).
Meanwhile on the opposite page they posted an article of M$ and Bill Gates spending $1.4Billion (i think) on a deal with Europes largest cellphone service provider to provide M$ based smartphones & services for them. Of course the usual M$ hooplaw was added, but just a little disdainful remarks of this could lead to standards not being followed. M$ tried to close a research to market smartphones deal here in Canada 1yr ago with Canada's largest cellphone service provider Rogers AT&T Wireless which Rogers' abandoned the deal - not without collecting the duckets first.
This was great to see, since iTunes worked flawlessly, and he highlighted not only iTunes and the iTunes Music Store, but also QuickTime and the video on demand Movie trailers - indeed its been done for years. That's success, that even M$ hasn't enjoyed lately, as well as Dell. COnsidering Video-On-Demand will be huge soon.
Apple just keeps on pushing, woohooo.
This is what I find amusing. Here in Canada, one of the most respected newspapers, The National Post, posted articles of Apple's iTunes for Windows announcement expectation along with Apple's financial results - albeit chopped (not the full results).
Meanwhile on the opposite page they posted an article of M$ and Bill Gates spending $1.4Billion (i think) on a deal with Europes largest cellphone service provider to provide M$ based smartphones & services for them. Of course the usual M$ hooplaw was added, but just a little disdainful remarks of this could lead to standards not being followed. M$ tried to close a research to market smartphones deal here in Canada 1yr ago with Canada's largest cellphone service provider Rogers AT&T Wireless which Rogers' abandoned the deal - not without collecting the duckets first.
This was great to see, since iTunes worked flawlessly, and he highlighted not only iTunes and the iTunes Music Store, but also QuickTime and the video on demand Movie trailers - indeed its been done for years. That's success, that even M$ hasn't enjoyed lately, as well as Dell. COnsidering Video-On-Demand will be huge soon.
Apple just keeps on pushing, woohooo.
I don't use Windows, that's the difference because i am smart and uses the best of all worlds, FreeBSD as OS and PC hardware.
This combination gives you the best system money can buy for private use.
Actually we had video-on-demand for years for Windows if you like that OS.
Problem is with MacOSX is that it isn't even compatible with open-source software so it's pretty useless for Unix geeks switching to Mac also.
Just go to www.sourceforge.net and discover how much software we Linux and BSD users got.
I don't beleive Mac will ever come up to that......
Tell me one thing, why use MacOSX when you can run FreeBSD?
You can make FreeBSD more prodcutive than OSX if you have the time and skills....
This combination gives you the best system money can buy for private use.
Actually we had video-on-demand for years for Windows if you like that OS.
Problem is with MacOSX is that it isn't even compatible with open-source software so it's pretty useless for Unix geeks switching to Mac also.
Just go to www.sourceforge.net and discover how much software we Linux and BSD users got.
I don't beleive Mac will ever come up to that......
Tell me one thing, why use MacOSX when you can run FreeBSD?
You can make FreeBSD more prodcutive than OSX if you have the time and skills....
Everyone got time over everyday.
Why should that be a problem, i get home from work, first thing i do is to discover and try new things on my computers.
It's all about set your priorities right every day and of course your interest for digging in to the system.
Why should that be a problem, i get home from work, first thing i do is to discover and try new things on my computers.
It's all about set your priorities right every day and of course your interest for digging in to the system.
please explain just how you can be more productive. that is the kind of blanket statement that really makes you look, well, silly. more productive doing what? and why do you have to hav time and skills (that all of us only *hope* to have one day) to make it more productive? that seems to a bit of a paradox. why isn't productive out of the box?
also, i love your self-proclaimed smartness, especially with a sentence like "i am smart and uses the best of all worlds".
btw, we got this nifty little thing called x11 (and fink), so don't go throwing around sourceforge urls like you've got something exclusive to bsd. and correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't os x based on bsd?
you are not quite as smart as you think you are, i'm afraid. you may know a lot about a particular OS, but that only makes you skilled in one area and not smart. smart people would fully investigate that which they are arguing against so they had all of the facts. (smart people would also not start off with such a grammatically poor paragraph, but that's another argument.)
or maybe you just wanted to get a rise our of people. well, you win, smart man.
Ah I see now, he has only his computer in his life. I know I like to spend my free time with my girlfriend, not try to make my computer cool.
1) what exactly is productive about wasting time digging in your system about what's new? i thought computers were tools, which would lead to the productivity issue. i don't know about any of you, but i've never claimed to be building a garage, and then spending 2 hours studying the hammer, or the powersaw...
2) the reason steve used a dell onstage is that a Mac would not run Windows versions of iTunes very well, would it? I'm not sure what you want him to do, aside from not releasing iTMS for windows...
3) you're a troll that's not going to get very far here...
4) you have no concept of what normal users need from an OS, nor what normal users do with their computers, or demand from their computers...
5) people prefer other OS's and, like partisan politics, a certain definable percentage of these respective groups will not change, no matter what...
why do people like this waste their time? i don't go to *nix and windows boards to troll them, and i don't know anyone that does... because i think we have more than enough worthwhile stuff to do...
pnw
2) the reason steve used a dell onstage is that a Mac would not run Windows versions of iTunes very well, would it? I'm not sure what you want him to do, aside from not releasing iTMS for windows...
3) you're a troll that's not going to get very far here...
4) you have no concept of what normal users need from an OS, nor what normal users do with their computers, or demand from their computers...
5) people prefer other OS's and, like partisan politics, a certain definable percentage of these respective groups will not change, no matter what...
why do people like this waste their time? i don't go to *nix and windows boards to troll them, and i don't know anyone that does... because i think we have more than enough worthwhile stuff to do...
pnw
Regarding Likvid's comments, I can understand what he means. There are very different styles of working, and I am glad FreeBSD is there to fulfill the needs of those that need it (My server runs on it, too). Your mistake, Likvid, is that you assume everybody works the same way.
For myself, I am a Unix geek that switched to the Mac. And it's not because I like to pay lots of extra money for Apple hardware. It's because I am much more productive on Mac OS X than on Linux or Windows. And since I am doing freelance programming work, the budgets are usually tight and the faster I work, the more I earn. Nobody pays me for the time I sit down and edit my ~/.fvwmrc (which, granted, is a thing you do once every blue moon, but it is just an example).
I used to use VNC on a Windows machine so I can do Windows programming natively and Unix programming via VNC on a linux box. Now, with my nice new sexy Powerbook, I can do all of them on one machine. I use VirtualPC to do programming for Windows (I use MSVC for that), which emulates a PC and runs as Mac OS X app. And I've got my emacs and perl and gcc running under OS X. Frankly speaking, I can use a lot of the software on sourceforge.net just fine. That is, the things that are programmed to be portable, but you'd need that also to run them on FreeBSD. And of course, I can use wxWindows to cross-compile apps for Windows, BSD, Linux etc. Which I don't, since I don't need it right now and I am too lazy to set it up (you probably know what a PITA setting up a cross-compiling gcc can be).
So, to close, using OS X on Apple's hardware gives me the best system my money can buy for my uses. It might not suit you, but then FreeBSD doesn't suit everybody either.
Let me close by reminding you that in IT, there's far less absolute "rights" and "wrongs" than one thinks.
For myself, I am a Unix geek that switched to the Mac. And it's not because I like to pay lots of extra money for Apple hardware. It's because I am much more productive on Mac OS X than on Linux or Windows. And since I am doing freelance programming work, the budgets are usually tight and the faster I work, the more I earn. Nobody pays me for the time I sit down and edit my ~/.fvwmrc (which, granted, is a thing you do once every blue moon, but it is just an example).
I used to use VNC on a Windows machine so I can do Windows programming natively and Unix programming via VNC on a linux box. Now, with my nice new sexy Powerbook
, I can do all of them on one machine. I use VirtualPC to do programming for Windows (I use MSVC for that), which emulates a PC and runs as Mac OS X app. And I've got my emacs and perl and gcc running under OS X. Frankly speaking, I can use a lot of the software on sourceforge.net just fine. That is, the things that are programmed to be portable, but you'd need that also to run them on FreeBSD. And of course, I can use wxWindows to cross-compile apps for Windows, BSD, Linux etc. Which I don't, since I don't need it right now and I am too lazy to set it up (you probably know what a PITA setting up a cross-compiling gcc can be).So, to close, using OS X on Apple's hardware gives me the best system my money can buy for my uses. It might not suit you, but then FreeBSD doesn't suit everybody either.
Let me close by reminding you that in IT, there's far less absolute "rights" and "wrongs" than one thinks.
Originally posted by Likvid
Bold: Likvid
Reg: G5orbust
I don't use Windows, that's the difference because i am smart and uses the best of all worlds, FreeBSD as OS and PC hardware.
So, wait a second here. You dont use windows because youre smart? Wow, guess that makes all of us smart too. Also FreeBSD + PC hardware is not the best of "all worlds". In fact, its not the best of any world at all.
This combination gives you the best system money can buy for private use.
Well, that certainly in not true. If you think that is...well..God help you. Also, why is this the best system money can buy? FreeBSD doesnt even really support, nor is it even supported, by most PC hardware manufacturers.
Here's a hint: Want open source? Use Linux.
Actually we had video-on-demand for years for Windows if you like that OS.
I thought you were anti-Windows? If so, then why did you say that "we have video-on-demand"? Get your damn story straight, slick, before you come here and be retarded. By the way, video on demand is such a trival feature. Its like me saying that Apple is better than Windows because we have ADC and they have DVI.
Problem is with MacOSX is that it isn't even compatible with open-source software so it's pretty useless for Unix geeks switching to Mac also.
What the hell are you talking about? Mac OSX: Darwin, based on a version of Free BSD, on the MACH kernal. That means that under this nice, pretty, quartz extreme rendered aqua interface runs the robust UNIX code that you so adamantly proclaim as supreme.
Also, X11/Fink are awesome open source tools within OSX and add a whole new facet to those for the open source community who are switching to OSX.
Those who dont like OSX can always use Linux versions that are PPC aware, such as Yellow Dog and Debian.
Just go to www.sourceforge.net and discover how much software we Linux and BSD users got. I don't beleive Mac will ever come up to that......
Have you looked at sourceforge in the last few years? If you haven't, take a look. You may suprise yourself that OSX programs exist there in huge numbers.
By the way, I like your grammar.
Tell me one thing, why use MacOSX when you can run FreeBSD?
Because Mac OSX is better.
You can make FreeBSD more prodcutive than OSX if you have the time and skills....
Why waste my time and skills making something productive when I can pop in 3 disks, install an OS and already be in shape to do whatever I need to do?
Pwnd.
Bold: Likvid
Reg: G5orbust
I don't use Windows, that's the difference because i am smart and uses the best of all worlds, FreeBSD as OS and PC hardware.
So, wait a second here. You dont use windows because youre smart? Wow, guess that makes all of us smart too. Also FreeBSD + PC hardware is not the best of "all worlds". In fact, its not the best of any world at all.
This combination gives you the best system money can buy for private use.
Well, that certainly in not true. If you think that is...well..God help you. Also, why is this the best system money can buy? FreeBSD doesnt even really support, nor is it even supported, by most PC hardware manufacturers.
Here's a hint: Want open source? Use Linux.
Actually we had video-on-demand for years for Windows if you like that OS.
I thought you were anti-Windows? If so, then why did you say that "we have video-on-demand"? Get your damn story straight, slick, before you come here and be retarded. By the way, video on demand is such a trival feature. Its like me saying that Apple is better than Windows because we have ADC and they have DVI.
Problem is with MacOSX is that it isn't even compatible with open-source software so it's pretty useless for Unix geeks switching to Mac also.
What the hell are you talking about? Mac OSX: Darwin, based on a version of Free BSD, on the MACH kernal. That means that under this nice, pretty, quartz extreme rendered aqua interface runs the robust UNIX code that you so adamantly proclaim as supreme.
Also, X11/Fink are awesome open source tools within OSX and add a whole new facet to those for the open source community who are switching to OSX.
Those who dont like OSX can always use Linux versions that are PPC aware, such as Yellow Dog and Debian.
Just go to www.sourceforge.net and discover how much software we Linux and BSD users got. I don't beleive Mac will ever come up to that......
Have you looked at sourceforge in the last few years? If you haven't, take a look. You may suprise yourself that OSX programs exist there in huge numbers.
By the way, I like your grammar.
Tell me one thing, why use MacOSX when you can run FreeBSD?
Because Mac OSX is better.
You can make FreeBSD more prodcutive than OSX if you have the time and skills....
Why waste my time and skills making something productive when I can pop in 3 disks, install an OS and already be in shape to do whatever I need to do?
Pwnd.
For someone that claims to really investigate and spend time on their computer you didn't even bother to check into why iTunes was taking so much CPU.
It was normalizing the volume on your mp3s. Stop giving FreeBSD users a bad name with your trolling (leave that for the lunix folk).
Wow your ignorance is astounding. Why use OSX when you can use FreeBSD? Your question is backwords. What does it take to get apache up on OSX?
tar -zxvf apache-blah.tar; cd apache-blah; ./configure; ./make
WHOA SAME WAY AS DOING SRC COMPILES ON ANY OTHER MODERN UNIX PACKAGE.
Oh but I use ports you say? Well on OSX you use can be lazy and use Fink to do the exact same thing.
I have been doing unix work for over ten years (not playing; WORK) and my unix of choice for my workstation is OSX. When I deploy servers it is the proper OS for the appropriate function.
your wrong - all you have to do is go into your sharing preferences and turn on Personal Web Sharing.
It is all Apache in MacOS X. Then just place your web page in ~/Sites/ with your primary page called index.html and violá.
Hmmm:-
tar -zxvf apache-blah.tar; cd apache-blah; ./configure; ./make
vs.
click - click - click - click; drag and drop.
likvid: i think i know which users are smarter
BTW. can you see those dots in BSD - on a mac they are option-; and are actually a real character