Steve Jobs would NEVER have allowed this

[XboxEvolved]

I'm not sure about Jobs not allowing it. This is definitely leading to something far greater than what you can experience now and even then, the use cases for a Vision Pro within ones house are pretty compelling. The problem with it is it's usability outside of an enclosed space such as an office or household and it's lack of data, and of course the size of it. We are seeing something out of reach for most that is leading to something bigger in the future, like the Apple Lisa, or even the incredibly expensive original MacBook Air.

I like, I love it, but I don't $4300+ after taxes and warranty love it.

 

[jedivulcan]

When I demoed the 3D environments on the Vision Pro back in 2024, they were training someone, and it was their first live demo to a customer.

I just joked and said, "Are you trying to sell me a headset or a ticket to Hawaii?" when I was going through the virtual environments halfway through the presentation.

Ended up buying a plane ticket and jumping on a plane to Hawaii less than a month later.

 

[avro707]

I had a look at them in the Apple store last night and they are surprisingly smaller than for instance my old HP Reverb G2.

If it was cheaper I think there would be more takers. At the prices they are charging it is hard to justify versus a pair of big 6K screens.

 

[boswald]

As usual with VR/AR it's never ready. We try again every 5-10 years I think and it never catches on. It's one of those "a-ha" moments that have to really click into place to become a revolution.

 

[Steve Adams]

I think that 3500 american is too much for the device when you can get 90 percent of the experience at 30 percent the cost with the meta. Yes it's from the lizard boy, but I tried one for a bit and came away impressed with the experience for the money.

Yes, the AVP is WAY better, but it's not 3000 dollars better. Both are similar gimmicky devices, it comes down to how much do you want to pay for the similar gimmick.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

The problem with VR and the AVP is that it's a niche segment for consumers. The other problem as has been mentioned, is the cost. Then there's the segment I fit in as a consumer where I don't talk to my phone such as Hey Siri or OK Google. I also find wearing a pair of goggles on my head as dorky.

That's why I have never tried or even considered any VR headsets regardless of who sells them. Asking $3500 to wear what looks like a scuba mask is even more ridiculous.

 

[Piggie]

It's a shame VR has not caught on.
I have a Quest 2 and a QUEST 3
But I still struggle to us them

 

[axantas]

The problem with VR and the AVP is that it's a niche segment for consumers. The other problem as has been mentioned, is the cost. Then there's the segment I fit in as a consumer where I don't talk to my phone such as Hey Siri or OK Google. I also find wearing a pair of goggles on my head as dorky.

That's why I have never tried or even considered any VR headsets regardless of who sells them. Asking $3500 to wear what looks like a scuba mask is even more ridiculous.

You are apparently writing about something, you never used, because you dhink this expensive nich segment is not for you.

... no obligation to buy it, but an extensive demo at Apple is completely free. Get the chance, be one of them who know that niche.

 

[realLucaR]

He’s dead. Who cares

A bit morbid, but I agree. THis whole "Steve Jobs this Steve Jobs that..." BS is not gonna get Apple anywhere. SJ was a visionary, he did not want people to think that way. Besides, Apple also made some rather strange choices under his leadership. (iPhone 2G headphone jack, The PowerMac G5 which was basically out of support by the time you have set it up...)

 

[realLucaR]

I experienced the Vision Pro demo at my local Apple Store today.

The first blunder was that the staff were essentially almost talking me out of the product before I even finished the demo. I’m glad for their honest opinions but this is something else…

The weight of the device by the end was unbearable, I couldn’t wait to take it off. I could feel so much pressure on my eye sockets.

Interesting use of spatial scenes, but without regular content updates this feels like a gimmick. Plus, you’re fixed to one point and can only scan around by moving your head, which effectively made the immersion feel somewhat boring after a while. Your instinct is to want to move in the space. If I wanted to rotate my head somewhere different then I’d go on holiday!

The whole experience felt like some early proof of concept rather than a viable product. Too thick and heavy, too isolating, too expensive.

So first of all - yes, I have had the same experience with SOME employees, but not all. When I got my VP on its launch day in Germany the Apple employees were pretty enthusiastic about it and some even bought one themselves.

The pressure to me is not an issue. Heck, it could be twice as heavy and I still wouldn't care, but that is pretty subjective.

To me at least, the lack of content can be an issue yes, although I also tend to use the VP as an external display for my Mac, to watch movies, or just chill in bed watching some YouTube videos about stupid **** I have recently bought myself 😂

I guess you just need to be the kind of person to put on a VP and fully immerse themselves.

 

[Baseiseough]

He would have done it. Heck, he even kinda did it.

The G4 cube was Steve's Vision Pro. A product with features ahead of its time and priced accordingly. Today, the cube's DNA is in all current macs. It helped Apple understanding how to shrink a full desktop computer in a much smaller casing. The Studio, the Mac mini, the MacBook Air... all these products have certainly benefited from the Cube's design and know-how Apple engineers acquired while working on it. They may even have been granted some patents doing so.

The same may happen with the Vision Pro. It's probably the ancestor of future Vision products that will have better performance and a more mainstream pricing.

And when, in 25-30 years, another CEO releases a not so prime time ready product to the masses, some will probably say.... Steve and Tim wouldn't have done it.