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Gherkin said:
I guess the thing you are missing is that MacWorld isn't bringing all the stuff that you listed. For one thing, something like a Powerbook update won't even need an announcment if it's just a minor speed bump. That will just be an overnight update in the online store.

Also, remember how Steve said that they wanted to get away from announcing a ton of stuff during these conferences? Stuff like the iPhone will no doubt have their own little press conference and everything.

My prediction for the show is more Tiger stuff, the iWork suite, the increased iPod mini, and the headless iMac. I don't see much more being announced.


You counteract( is this even a word?) yourself. You say that the pbooks don't need an announcement for a simple update. Then you say they will announce a simple upgrade to the Mini to 5 GB. You do not make sense sorry.
 
If you can cast your minds back to 2 years ago i think, January and February were fantastic with either a new update or product being released every tuesday. It must have gone on for about 6/7 weeks. This proved that not everything had to happen in one Macworld as by releasing things seperately, apple got more press exposure. In 2005, If all the rumors are accurate there will be way to much to cover in one Macworld. Releasing everything together is not a good marketing technique. Look for something similar to 2 years ago to happen again.

What i do not like about the expo's is the expectation that everything has to be released there and then. People need to have a little bit more patience. The products will come when they are ready.
 
Hopefully I don't miss anything, but here's a rundown of the past 3 MWSFs:

2002:
OS X now default
iPhoto
14" iBook
iMac G4

2003 (two Macworld worth of stuff):
Final Cut Express
Safari
iLife
Keynote
12" and 17" PowerBooks

2004:
xServe G5
iLife '04
15 GB iPod
iPod mini

My bet for 2005:
iLife '05
iWork '05
iPod mini 5GB, iPod flash
$499 Mac

Steve won't waste time talking about another 100 MHz added to the PowerBooks, or talk about how the Power Macs are now at 2.8 GHz. Only CPU announcement will be the new low-end Mac. :D
 
My prediction:

iPod Mini - 5 GB
30% slimmer (maybe 20%)
Color
Longer battery
Downloadable Games
$250

If it is just a 1 GB update, then it won't be talked about.
 
James Craner said:
we may also see something on the new iPhone, except I suspect it may be too early for that (WWDC).

I doubt they'd hold the iPhone (god I hope it isn't actually named that) off until WWDC espeically since it isn't of specific interest to developers unless they can make apps for it. If not at Macworld, then the iTunes anniversary conference call (which could be bumped into an actual keynote this year ala the U2 keynote bringing the unveiling of iTunes 5, this iPhone, and some sort of iPod) would be an appropriate venue.
 
James.Paul said:
If you can cast your minds back to 2 years ago i think, January and February were fantastic with either a new update or product being released every tuesday. It must have gone on for about 6/7 weeks. This proved that not everything had to happen in one Macworld as by releasing things seperately, apple got more press exposure. In 2005, If all the rumors are accurate there will be way to much to cover in one Macworld. Releasing everything together is not a good marketing technique. Look for something similar to 2 years ago to happen again.

What i do not like about the expo's is the expectation that everything has to be released there and then. People need to have a little bit more patience. The products will come when they are ready.

I agree. 2 years ago was pretty slick with the weekly anticipation. Much better than getting it all in one fell swoop and definitely takes the sting out of a long dreary Midwest winter.
 
chameeeleon said:
the iPhone (god I hope it isn't actually named that)
I figured they'd leverage the wild popularity of the iPod and call it iPod Phone (ala Xserve RAID).

If they were really, really clever they'd make it a tiny hardware add-on to the iPod.
 
Sir_Giggles said:
I only hope they update the widgets in dashboard. Those things look hideous.
I totally agree with you, Apple has been playing pretty loose with their own UI rulebook for quite a few years now, but those widgets pretty much give a big finger to that book. I couldn't believe how freakin' ugly they were when Steve showed them at WWDC. Yikes.
 
Toe said:
The Stevenote is allegedly bringing:
  • New PowerBook
  • New eMac
  • New headless iMac
  • New iPhone
  • New Keynote
  • New Works application
  • New mystery apps (crossbow, slingshot)
  • Hey, the iPod, Xserve, and PowerMac are all overdue for an upgrade
  • Maybe somebody should mention Tiger?
How the heck is Steve going to into anything near that much stuff (plus talk about the raging success of and expansion plans for ITMS and Apple Store) in 90 minutes?

No major powerbook revision, no major emac revision, no iphone at all, the mystery apps are components of the office suite, the ipod needs no update--only some sales figure updates, xserve + xsan will get mentioned maybe, and tiger will probably get a lot of attention.

this might even be a short keynote...
 
BornAgainMac said:
My prediction:

iPod Mini - 5 GB
30% slimmer (maybe 20%)
Color
Longer battery
Downloadable Games
$250

If it is just a 1 GB update, then it won't be talked about.

  1. Maybe
  2. Possible
  3. No
  4. Possible
  5. No
  6. and Maybe
 
I am sincerely hoping that those of you who mentioned the iPod in the "new stuff" category of Steve Jobs' keynote are referring to a possible (*possible*) iPod mini update, or the rumored "new" iPod.

Because there is no way that the 4G iPod is going to be replaced. It has only existed for 6 months, and (if you've noticed) Apple is going for iPod adoption, not iPod innovation. Differences between 3 and 4G iPods were minimal, so don't expect anything revolutionary on the iPod front until MWSF 06.
 
savar said:
...the mystery apps are components of the office suite...
Do you really think there may be a whole Office suite? ThinkSecret was kickin' that around a lot quite some time ago, but that rumor died, and now they're only talking about word processing....

If it is a whole suite... wow I don't know what I would do. I've dreamed of the day I get to ditch microsoft completely. What are the chances they got near 100% file compatibility with DOC, XLS, and PPT, I wonder.
 
BornAgainMac said:
One year he said he had enough material for 2 Macworlds.

That was 2002. He announced:

  • Safari
  • Firewire 800
  • Final Cut Express
  • Keynote
  • The Ai Powerbooks
  • Airport Extreme
  • iLife Updates
 
IJ Reilly said:
That was 2002. He announced:

  • Safari
  • Firewire 800
  • Final Cut Express
  • Keynote
  • The Ai Powerbooks
  • Airport Extreme
  • iLife Updates

Erm... I'm pretty sure that was 2003, no?
 
Toe said:
The Stevenote is allegedly bringing:
  • New headless iMac
  • New Keynote
  • New Works application
  • New mystery apps (crossbow, slingshot) [Unless those are the Works Application]
  • Maybe somebody should mention Tiger?

After I edited what you say is coming, I think it can fit.
 
This year's Keynote will be the most anticipated Keynote. The Keynote to end all Keynotes. The Mother of all Keynotes.
 
Sir_Giggles said:
This year's Keynote will be the most anticipated Keynote. The Keynote to end all Keynotes. The Mother of all Keynotes.

until macworld sf next year ;)

and the albooks were introduced in 2003
 
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