Stick with MBP or switch back to Windows?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Elmzeh, Jun 26, 2013.

?

Which offer is best to take?

  1. By the beard of Zeus, take the upgraded MacBook Pro Retina!

    34 vote(s)
    72.3%
  2. Stick with the Classic MacBook Pro because... (Anti-Glare, Upgradability etc)

    13 vote(s)
    27.7%
  1. Elmzeh macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #1
    Hi Guys,

    Around 6 months ago now I purchased my first every MacBook Pro (Mid 2012) after being a Windows user for over 10 years however I've run into some difficulties;

    In the 6 months I've had it, its had to go in for repair twice due to hardware faults which were not caused by myself - the 1st time was for a logic board replacement and the 2nd time was as the keyboard stopped working. These are issues that I was prepared to overlook however recently I was required to re-install OSX which I did with the guidance of an Apple Care specialist...

    The only thing is that when I re-installed OSX, it somehow backdated itself to Lion when the system came with Mountain Lion pre-installed. I've spoken to Apple Care about this for over a week to try and resolve the issue and the current update is that they cannot give me a redemption code for Mountain Lion and also cannot explain whats happened. After numerous calls to them about this I've now got 3 options available to me...

    1) Purchased Mountain Lion for £14 and Apple Care will give me £60 worth of Apple Store vouchers due to the issue

    2) Full refund on my MacBoo Pro Mid 2012 (Spec Below)

    15-inch MacBook Pro
    With the following configuration:
    •2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    •8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
    •750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
    •SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    •MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display

    3) Take the refund and purchase something like this laptop which is almost the equivalent cost of my MacBook Pro;

    Chassis & Display
    Vortex Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-3630QM (2.40GHz) 6MB
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    2 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM (Special Offer)
    Memory - Hard Disk
    120GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 555MB/sR | 510MB/sW)
    2nd Hard Disk
    750GB WD SCORPIO BLACK WD7500BPKT, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (7200 rpm)

    Now don't get me wrong, I have really and still do enjoy using my MacBook Pro - the interface is great, it doesn't feel clunky, everything feels smoother and simpler, it can handle mid range gaming (Which I was surprised about) and although I'm yet to try it - I can only assume its going to be great for Photo, Video and Music Production as well but the fact that a few things have gone wrong so far hardware wise and that that its been difficult for me to get reimbursed for the Mountain Lion loss has obviously been quite frustrating;

    I've done countless hours of research online to try and find out what system (Mac or Windows) will be best for what I want and for the most part the overall conclusion is a Mac...

    I'm just looking for some final advice on whats best for what I want / need before I go back to Apple in the next 1-2 days with my decision on how I wish to proceed;

    What I'm Looking For

    I want a system primarily for;

    1) General Use
    2) Photo and Video Production / Editing
    3) Music Production
    4) Casual Gaming

    Now, as discussed I know that a MBP can do all of the above but for the cost which was circa £1750 in the Christmas sales I can get a Windows specced laptop as above which I was advised would blow my MBP out of the water in terms of power and capabilities. In fairness, the company advised that it is a "Gaming Laptop" but that I will find that top end gaming laptops are almost identical spec wise to what you need for Photo, Video and Music Production / Editing...

    I would have considered buying a replacement MBP but as the sale is no longer on it would mean paying an extra £150 - £200 for a system that is ALMOST like for like;

    I dont want to ignite a Windows vs Mac war but for what I want I could use some guidance from the more experienced users. If its best to stick with Mac for the stuff that I want then thats what I'll do however if based on the issues that I've had / money and cost of another system with higher specs will be a better option then this is something I'll consider!
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

    maflynn

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Location:
    Boston
    #2
    If you're unhappy with your experience and have an opportunity for a refund I say take the refund.

    I will say that you got a defective unit and while its unfortunate, what you experience is not the norm. If you like the OSX platform I'd say stay with the MBP and see if another model works out better for you. That is exchange the laptop for a new one if that's an option.

    If you're not all that jazzed up about the OSX platform, then yeah its probably better to go back to windows at this point, the only point I will make there is, be sure you're comfortable with win8 as that has changed the user experience quite a bit and a lot of people are unhappy with it.
     
  3. AppleMacNerd macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    #3
    If your really that upset about your apple experience I would advise you to take a refund and go back to windows as that's obviously where your heart has lay for 10 years.

    Apple don't offer refunds like that much. Although I would advise you to keep your MBP and just say on Lion until the new OSX comes out in fall. :)
    However the final decision is obviously yours but from reading that I can obviously see that you aint enjoying your experience with your apple products.
     
  4. Pinkie Pie macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Location:
    Los Anhelles
    #4
    Having so many problems with a Macbook is extremely unusual. A few of them come off the assembly line cursed, and you got one. :( You should get a refund and either buy a new Mac if you want to give them another chance (your next Mac WILL NOT be like this one), or go back to Windows. Just get rid of the lemon!
     
  5. Elmzeh thread starter macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #5
    Unfortunately they will not offer me a replacement :( Don't get me wrong, the MBP has been great - the user interface is great and Its a smooth system, I cant replace or buy a new one as it would mean an additional cost which I'm keen to avoid;

    I'd like to give the MBP another chance but its taken 1 week+ for me to get the offer of a refund / voucher from Apple which I've felt to be quite frustrating as they initially didn't seem too fussed about the issue that I was having with the backdated OSX;

    I just want to be sure that if I stick with the MBP I have with its current specs that it will be able to handle Video, Music and Photo Editing / Production well or whether it will be a better option to buy a Windows laptop for almost the same price which spec wise will be stronger...

    I wanna stay with the Mac but this experience has worried me and I want to make sure I'm getting the best for my money for what I need. If Macs are truly the masters of the creative industry then Ill happily stay and give it 1 more shot and take the voucher (+ I don't really fancy the viruses and issues that come with having a Windows again)

    Just keen to get thoughts of those that have experience of both systems for the likes of Photo, Video and Music Production / Editing. Another thing is that I'm keen to start putting some work onto YouTube however I see some of the leading YouTuber's use Macs and a handful use Windows... its hard to tell which is best for my needs

    ----------

    Thanks for the response :)

    Its mainly the experience that has been frustrating and not the OSX or system. I have been a long tim Windows user but up until now I wasn't missing it one bit!

    It makes it worse that it feels like I had to really battle to get any kind of potential re-imbursement from Apple. They couldn't give me reasons for the faults that I encountered and couldn't explain why the OSX backdated to Lion but still expect me to pay for the Mountain Lion anyway;

    I just need to make sure I'm sticking with the right system for my needs... your suggestion about waiting for the new OSX in the fall sounds like a good plan but I'm keen to find out if spec / money wise a Windows will do a better job than a Mac at Photo, Music and Video Production / Editing...

    A lot of professionals I know use Macs but a guy at a local PC shop was telling me that for the same money I could get a Windows Laptop as specced above that will destroy the MBP in terms of power for creative software..

    Is there any truth in this, if so - why do so many creative people use Macs? In all honesty, I find OSX less clunky, smoother and all around better than Windows but am obviously a bit concerned due to the faults so far =)
     
  6. AppleMacNerd macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    #6
    There is truth in you can get a much better spec computer in windows than from apple, it's true no one can even deny that for the price of a mac you can quite easily get a better spec windows computer.
    To be honest I have no idea why most professionals use Macs, probably for a range of reasons: battery life, OSX, portability of MBA, apples programs (garageband etc..) Many reasons people choose Apple over a windows laptop but it all depends on the individual and what they want.

    Myself I would never have a mac has my primary desktop, I like having my custom built computer for gaming I like to change stuff alot and can easily change different parts, although I made the move from Windows Laptop to a macbook air last August 2012. I will NEVER move back to windows laptop, on the other hand as I said I will NEVER move to a mac desktop from my custom built windows computer.
    Laptop: All Apple from now on...
    Desktop: I'll always build my own computer and have windows on it :)
    Depends on each person.

    Hope my input helps, sorry about it been so long I didn't plan for it to be so long! :rolleyes:
     
  7. Elmzeh thread starter macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #7
    Thanks for the response :)

    Thing is, I don't want to get a crazy high spec desktop for gaming because at the moment the MBP can handle the casual gaming that I'm after;

    I'm just keen to make sure that as a standalone system that the MacBook Pro can handle the creative suites with ease without any support from a desktop system as I'm not planning to get a desktop anytime soon.

    I've not used iMovie and Garage band too much yet and am keen to start recording videos for YouTube but can my current MBP handle the workload alone in comparison to a Windows laptop with higher specs?
     
  8. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a

    Yahooligan

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    Location:
    Illinois
    #8
    Well, here's something else to consider.

    What you have right now is a known.
    What you would be replacing it with is an unknown.

    There is absolutely zero guarantee that the Windows PC would have any fewer problems, so I would suggest sticking with what you have if it does what you want and you like it. I understand that it can be frustrating when there are problems, but I always cringe when I hear people talk about jumping ship from Brand A to Brand B and assuming they will have fewer problems when there's no reason to think that. It's a roll of the dice, whether it's computers, cars, or people...there are no guarantees in life.

    I would be giving this advice to anyone that presented me with this scenario regardless of what brands are involved.

    Any product produced by humans could be flawed, that's what the warranty is for.

    Now, as for the OS X Mtn Lion/10.8 issue, I would recommend locating your receipt showing when you purchased the MBP as that would show it was purchased after Mtn Lion was released and that your MBP came with it.

    However, taking their offer to basically get a 45 pound credit in the Apple Store is one I would take. If they give you the credit before you buy Mtn Lion then you can use the credit to buy it. If not, then you're still basically getting it for free and still having money left over for other apps. That credit could buy some useful software for video editing, which is one thing I love to use OS X for. :)

    Good luck with whatever choice you make.
     
  9. saturnotaku macrumors 68000

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    #9
    I would choose Option 4:

    a) Accept the refund on the MBP.
    b) Purchase a Windows notebook that is comparable in spec to the MBP, such as the Lenovo Y500/510.
    c) Invest part of the remainder in an SSD for the Lenovo and put the rest in the bank, which will give you a head start toward saving for a future upgrade.

    The 680M SLI system you put in the first post is way, way overkill for what you're going to be doing.
     
  10. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a

    Yahooligan

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    Location:
    Illinois
    #10
    An equally important question to ask yourself is what software would you use in Windows? Movie Maker? ;)

    Using iMovie is good to get your feet wet, but it will not use your Mac to its full potential. It will take a while to render videos when compared to more "professional" apps and that is actually by design. iMovie and the free QuickTime will only use one CPU core when rendering/compressing/transcoding/etc. If you want to make full use of the hardware then you need to pony up and buy the "pro" versions of software.

    A lot of "pros" complain about Final Cut Pro X being a piece of crap, but I'm very happy with it and combined with Compressor 4 I'm able to render/export video pretty dang quick and am perfectly happy with FCPX workflow and features.

    On Windows, you could get a stripped version of Premiere called Elements Premier for $99. The full CS6 version is $799.

    There are other solutions out there for Windows, but honestly I haven't been impressed with them either due to functionality/use or cost.
     
  11. Elmzeh thread starter macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #11
    Thanks for your response/insight;

    So based on your experience, your confident that the MacBook Pro that I have is of suitable spec to use for Photo, Video and Music Production/Editing although I may need to invest in some higher end software to make full use of the hardware available to me?

    In all honesty, I'm not liking the idea of switching back to Windows but the faults that I've had have just been frustrating and the fact that I haven't used the creative suites yet hasn't given me a good indication on how good they are or not but based on what you've said - they can do the job but not as good as the software that I'd need to pay for :)

    Video /music production wise I'm hoping to start out with stuff similar to this;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwAhNy0w5oE

    And I MAY attempt some gaming videos but nothing too crazy, maybe something such as this;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3voqvclJCqg

    So nothing too heavy, I'm not planning on making a full studio record or to record Crysis 3 gameplay at Ultra Settings ;)

    You think the MBP will be best to get started with stuff like this instead of Windows?

    ----------

    Thanks for the response! :)

    If I was to go for the refund which I will probably be deciding on tomorrow - I would potentially get a Windows laptop with similar specifications and then invest in a DLR camera and some other equipment too;

    As I haven't used the creative suites on the MBP yet and its been years since Ive used PhotoShop, ImageReady and Movie Maker in Windows I'm just keen to get some full info on the capabilities of the MacBook Pro vs the Windows for this stuff before I fully decide! :)
     
  12. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

    sonicrobby

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2013
    Location:
    New Orleans
    #12
    I say take the refund. And use that money to purchase the MBP again (just not the exact same one you had) ;P

    But if you are confident in it, Id say take the mt. Lion deal with the apple store credit =0
     
  13. saturnotaku macrumors 68000

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    #13
    If this computer is going to be part of your livelihood, I would then suggest taking the money and purchase a workstation notebook such as the HP Elitebook, Dell Precision, or ThinkPad W530. These machines are way more customizable, expandable, and upgradable than a MacBook and can be purchased with on-site next-business day warranties and accidental damage protection. The latter are items Apple does not offer on its notebooks.
     
  14. ecschwarz macrumors 65816

    ecschwarz

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    #14
    I can't tell you what to do specifically, since only you can know what will be best for your feelings and personal preferences. However, I will echo the sentiment that this seems like an extremely rare occurrence that you experienced. Your machine should be more than adequate for your needs (many will say that an SSD will help speed things up, but I was able to edit HD video and do many of those tasks on my prior MacBook Pro 5 years ago with a 5400 rpm drive). Since it seems that you do enjoy the interface, and there are some Mac-only "creative" apps that you may find nicer, I'd do one of the two options:

    a) Take the refund and get a different machine (a bit silly, but might be good peace of mind, and your warranty resets in the process), and you'd get Mountain Lion added to your Apple ID automatically.

    b) Keep your computer and take the vouchers (are they App Store or Apple Retail Store?) to either get some accessories or apps/music/movies.
     
  15. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a

    Yahooligan

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    Location:
    Illinois
    #15
    Absolutely, the MBP is very capable for those tasks and the software available is one of the reasons why I don't miss Windows. I've done video editing on Windows and it made me sad and disappointed having hardware that was fully capable but having to use software that was clunky or just downright a pain to use, provided it didn't crash in the middle of rendering/exporting video. ;)

    Is it possible to get the same functionality with Windows? Absolutely. There's a lot of pro software out there for Windows, but like I said the good stuff isn't cheap and the cheap stuff generally isn't good. FCPX is relatively inexpensive and fully-featured. I don't think you'll be able to find anything comparable on Windows for the same price.

    Right, and the other thing to keep in mind is that since Apple makes iMovie as well as FCPX there will be a number of similarities in how things are done. You'll have to learn MORE with FCPX but I wouldn't say you'd have to start from scratch by going from iMovie to FCPX. Also consider that you can easily import your iMovie projects into FCPX as well, so you literally don't have to start over if/when you make the jump from iMovie to FCPX.



    I've been "OS agnostic" for decades and have used everything from Windows, OS X, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, NetBSD...you name it. OS X has been the best all-around OS for my needs, so I'm not just recommending sticking with OS X just because I use it. I use it because it does what I need without all the fuss or baggage that comes with some other operating systems. Macs have been pretty synonymous with creativity and a lot of people use Macs for the very things you want to do. One, OS X tends to "just work" whereas Windows can be pretty frustrating. Two, there are a lot of apps out there in the App Store that are easy to find, learn about, and get feedback on via reviews. Something that doesn't REALLY exist with Windows. Sure, there are sites out there but you have to search for them. Not to say ever piece of Mac software is going to be the in App Store either, but it's a good resource to have.

    It sounds like you've started to find some of this out since you a) made the switch from Windows and b) have been happy with OS X in general so far.

    It would be a shame to switch back to a less-than-ideal OS due to a couple hiccups along the way. I can see how being new to Macs and having these issues could make you question whether or not you made the right choice, but having had a number of Macs over the years, as well as other PCs, I can say your experience is the exception and not the rule. I've had multiple Lenovo laptops provided to me by my employer and not a single one of them were trouble-free. Which is why I say it's sometimes better to continue with a "known" than risk an "unknown" when it comes to problems. If you do decide on a refund then I would echo what others have said and use that to buy a "new" MBP as the chance of having problems with two in a row are pretty slim. Not only that, it would suck if you were to get the refund and go to a Windows PC only to have more problems or not be able to do what you really want to do due to software limitations or excessive cost for software.
     
  16. nilk macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    #16
    Here are some software exclusives for each OS that I'm aware of (not a comprehensive list):

    Mac OS X:
    GarageBand, Logic, iMovie, Final Cut Pro, iPhoto, Aperture

    Windows:
    FL Studio (Fruity Loops), Sony Vegas

    The thing is, you can easily run Windows on a Mac. You can not easily run OS X on a PC laptop(*). The MacBook Pro gives you more software options.

    Do you have a set software that you plan to use for music/video/photos/etc? Or is exploring that something you are going to do in the future?

    For music production, I've used GarageBand and Logic in the past, but now use Ableton Live (which has both Windows and Mac versions). But I like that I could fire up GarageBand and Logic if I wanted to. I use Final Cut Pro X and it works great for my purposes (I was previously a Final Cut 7 user and when FCP X came out I briefly tried Adobe Premiere before deciding to use FCP X). Also I use Aperture for photos (though I've never used Adobe Lightroom, so can't compare).

    ---

    BTW FL Studio is coming to OS X at some point, but they are using WINE (Windows compatibility layer) for that and probably won't be as good as the Windows version.

    One of my friends swears by Sony Vegas, but I generally don't hear about people using it very often.

    * I suppose you can find a PC laptop that can be Hackintoshed, but I doubt that would be easy and there is a good chance not everything will work. You're better off sticking with the MacBook Pro if you want to run OS X. Desktop machines may be a different story, though, but we're talking laptops here.
     
  17. makaveli559m macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2012
    #17
    You know you can use Windows on it right? My experience is that Windows runs way better on a Mac than it does on a regular Windows PC not to mention you can get Parallels and run Windows on it!
     
  18. fskywalker macrumors 65816

    fskywalker

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2009
    #18
    +1. you can try Parallels, have it on my rMBP and my wife's MBA and works like a charm (We use Windows 7 64 bit and the Office Suite, with Access, which is not available for the Mac OS)
     
  19. Voodoofreak macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    #19
    What this person said...
     
  20. Elmzeh thread starter macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #20
    Hey All,

    Thanks for all of your responses so far, they've been extremely helpful!

    I've taken some time to browse around, do some further tests with my current MBP and have found the following and could use some final advice...

    As a few of you mentioned I checked out the UK Apple Refurb Store and found this;

    http://store.apple.com/uk/product/G...-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display

    Originally released June 2012
    15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
    16GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
    512GB Flash Storage
    720p FaceTime HD Camera
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

    Cost £1839.00

    Now comparing this to my current cMBP system looks like this;

    15-inch MacBook Pro
    With the following configuration:
    •2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    •8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
    •750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
    •SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    •MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display

    Cost Circa £1750 (Interest Free Finance)

    Now I have a few concerns with this which at the moment is leading me towards keeping my cMBP and taking the advice that a lot of you have given..

    1) Taking the refurbished product would cost me around £100 more than my cMBP however for the 512SSD, 16GB of ram and the Retina Screen I don't think anyone can complain much. When you build a new retina system with almost the same spec (Except for it being 2.7ghz Retina then the price for one new is coming out at £2,299 BUT if I was to go for the retina option I wouldn't be able to take out an interest fee finance option which means I would end up paying back an extra 14.9% representative APR over time;

    2) Looking over Apple's refurbished items information page it states the following;

    They are in 100% working condition, and are then sold as refurbished product. As these refurbished products have been unpacked and manipulated, they might however exhibit some minor cosmetic imperfection, such as scratches, marks or discolorations.

    While this not be much of a problem for some, I don't like the idea of potentially getting a system with prior scratches / dents event at a lower price;

    3) The final 2 things that would concern me about this is that I would lose the Anti-Glare screen which I think does make a huge difference and after looking into how SSD will improve the performance of the system - I don't think at this stage it will make a HUGE difference to me being an amateur with not only the OSX but the creative suites as well... I'd probably be more suited to purchasing a RAM upgrade instead for the time being as I could always replace the HDD to SSD later on..

    Lastly, unless the new Haswell line will include a GPU upgrade then I don't think there's any point in getting a refund and waiting for that at my level;

    I've come to the conclusion that for the time being I don't believe I'll be moving back to Windows however if you could all give me this last bit of advice on whether to stick with the Classic or attempt an upgrade to the Retina as mentioned above that would be great (I'm leaning towards keeping my classic unless anyone believes the Retina will be better / the Haswell worth the wait!)

    Thanks to everyone again - you've all been a great help! :)
     
  21. ecschwarz macrumors 65816

    ecschwarz

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    #21
    My apologies in advance for assuming anything, but if your background is with Windows, you might be more comfortable "starting out" with the cMBP. Unlike the Retina model, you can pop open the bottom and tinker and upgrade to your heart's content (using off-the-shelf PC components for RAM, hard drive, and optical drive). The rMBP can only have its storage upgraded.

    Plus, it seems like you bought your current model for its antiglare display (which is a really nice display by its own merit), and raw power.
     
  22. Unhyper macrumors regular

    Unhyper

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2010
    Location:
    Finland
    #22
    My brother has a 2012 MBP w/o Retina, and it has a 500 GB HDD. Mine is a Retina with an SSD. For me, the difference between the user experiences is almost in the night/day range. The SSD is just so blazing fast in comparison, not just opening or copying files, but the entire system performance in general. It feels like a much more fluid experience.

    I have a Windows 8 desktop with an i5, 16 GB of RAM, a more powerful gfx card than the MBP, and around 3 TB of HDD space. I only use it for gaming now, and network file storage. I beefed up its specs originally because I needed a lot of space for working with video files. It runs just fine... But my MBP blows it out of the water in terms of performance and software. I'd rather work within the confines of the cramped 256 GB SSD on my rMBP than on the PC, because the software experience just isn't comparable.

    Re: scratches on refurb'd machines, I can only say that I always opt for good refurbished deals so long as the warranty is there. There seems to be a tendency among Apple buyers to think that their machines need to remain aesthetically flawless until the day they sell it second-hand to somebody else. For me, it's a machine... I use it, and it's going to show signs of use. I bought it to make use of its capabilities, not to sit and stare at it in quiet admiration.

    What it boils down to is software, though, at the end of the day. Specs are meaningless if the software is the real bottleneck.
     
  23. Elmzeh thread starter macrumors regular

    Elmzeh

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Location:
    London
    #23
    *Update from Apple*

    Hi Guys,

    Thought I'd revive the old thread with an update with regards to my situation;

    Since my last post a Senior Adviser within Apple has given me a call from the US with regards to my case. Even though I'd told the original adviser that I was only keen to consider my options he must have escalated my case higher up the ladder;

    As such I was presented with a new option which was a return to refund which I accepted although mentioned that from looking at the Apple website I couldn't see / make the same machine again with the same spec which the Senior Adviser told me that he would investigate and update me on in a few days...

    So today I received a call from the adviser with what initially is an out of this world update...

    He has advised me that due to the numerous faults that I've unfortunately encountered with the system and due to them not being able to exchange it for a like-for-like system that his manager has presented him with a final option;

    As I cannot get the same spec'd machine as I'd originally purchased which is;

    15-inch MacBook Pro
    With the following configuration:
    •2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    •8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
    •750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
    •SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    •MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display

    They have offered me...

    MacBook Pro Retina Display

    Hardware
    •2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
    •16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
    •512GB Flash Storage
    •Backlit Keyboard (British) & User's Guide (English)
    •Accessory Kit
    •Apple USB SuperDrive (Separate)

    Software
    •iLife '11
    •OS X Mountain Lion


    Now, I'm going to be doing a load of research on the Retina over the next few days to make sure 100% that it is the best choice to make as I will be losing anti-glare but from what I've seen of the Retina screen and due to the sheer upgrade they have offered I am in all honesty itching to jump at this offer!

    Can any of you who have experienced the Classic MacBook Pro's vs the Retina's give me a quick pro/con list between the two systems and on whether the Retina is indeed the best offer to accept?

    As mentioned, I understand that the spec difference is huge so the retina already will be more powerful but being new to Apple's / MacBook Pro's I'm not sure how this boost effects overall performance so any advice from those with Retina experience would be great!! :)
     
  24. fskywalker macrumors 65816

    fskywalker

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2009
    #24
    Go for it, makes sense!
     
  25. hummel003 macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    #25
    take it! if u dont like it u can sell it for a profit :p
     

Share This Page