Resolved Stickiness of 'Yosemite is beautiful' and 'Yosemite looks terrible!'

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Should both topics be pinned?

Poll closed Jan 16, 2015.
  1. Yes, maybe for a few days.

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  2. Yes, maybe for a few weeks.

    11.8%
  3. Yes, for as long as may be appropriate.

    29.4%
  4. No.

    58.8%
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  1. grahamperrin macrumors 601

    grahamperrin

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    #1
    Yosemite is Beautiful; Yosemite looks terrible!

    Both very popular – many thousands of views, and there may be some ballooning following the recent release of 10.10. Naturally contentious. The former has a greater rating; the latter has more posts. And so on.

    A suggestion: make both topics sticky. Temporarily … a few weeks maybe? Too unorthodox?

    Just a thought.

    Rationale: primarily to minimise posts that are entirely off-topic. One-off pinning/sticking (at the topic level) may be more effective, ultimately more pleasing than than repeatedly flagging things (at the individual post level).

    Moderators: thanks for your consideration.
     
  2. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    I agree, also they can hopefully spend more time policing the thread, because there is a lot of abuse.

    Edit:

    Just read your rationale bit. It's what I wrote anyway!
     
  3. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Thanks, and a few thoughts

    Thanks to dilap. Equal thanks to the two no-voters (I'll not push towards any particular outcome).

    I like to show respect for opening posters, so I sent a private message to both individuals (with a blind carbon copy to a moderator). Their votes – and comments here, if they choose – will be valued.

    Discreet (private) because if I promote this poll in both topics, it could be misconstrued as an attempt to stifle discussion. The opposite: there's a mass of genuinely interesting content in the diverse/overlapping points of view … minimising the number of "me too" posts should make it easier for readers, especially newcomers, to gain overviews and respond appropriately.

    For the record: I see not too much abuse in recent weeks. But if there is the risk of abuse (I do expect a rush of popularity of Yosemite), it'll be nice to somehow nip it in the bud.

    (Will sticking the two topics help readers to accept that there are extremely varied viewpoints; will sticking reduce the temptation to post carelessly? Dunno. A few words from experienced moderators could be good here.)

    Alternative idea: a moderator-authored single-post sticky

    A single brief post from a moderator could be pinned to draw attention to:
    • the topics
    • the value of (reading some of) then star-rating a topic
    • the value of up-voting
    – I'll not poll for that. Just another idea.

    (Side note: I do always up-vote posts that are entirely reasonable, even if I don't entirely agree with the poster's points of view in that post. That's a habit learnt from the pleasures of Stack Exchange (Ask Different in particular).)
     
  4. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    Let me know if they reply! About the disagreements, I think that they will me more to come. I don't think a merged thread would work, because that could mean even more disagreements, but I agree about "Alternative idea: a moderator-authored single-post sticky", it would mean more time for mods to be elsewhere.
     
  5. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Not suitable for merger of the two – agreed

    Agreed. Simply contemplating a merger makes me bleed slightly from one ear.
     
  6. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    Try contacting the mods, or leaving a note on a mods page.

    Edit:

    Just contacted MacRumors
     
  7. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Yep – the private message was bcc'd to a moderator. So that person should become aware of this poll.
     
  8. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    Tell me if they reply! Btw are you awake at midnight or in another country? I just wonder if people go on the forum at midnight. I am in the UK, so its 9:30am here.
     
  9. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    (Awake, too often, at ridiculous hours. UK. (OT: tinnitus 24/7 … posting passes the time … enough said.))
     
  10. maflynn Moderator

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    The thread in question have been stuck, I or one of the other moderators will unstick them once we see activity dying down.
     
  11. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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  12. thedeejay macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for your message grahamperrin. I think this is also helpful to posters as they'll be able to see and post how they feel in one thread instead of opening another thread that says "Yosemite sucks".
     
  13. ilandmac macrumors member

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    Second that !
     
  14. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    With iOS-related http://forums.macrumors.com/threads...-you-add-a-ios-9-topic.1878453/#post-21345487 in mind:
    • I assume that appearance of an OS X 10.11 sub-forum will coincide with the first day of WWDC 2015
    – and within that sub-forum there'll be opportunities galore to find beauty and terror within Apple's next offering.

    With those things in mind, unpinning of the two Yosemite topics is probably timely; not premature.

    Onwards, and upwards. Or will it be sideways, down and backwards? We'll know, in a few days' time (WWDC). Forking? Wishful thinking. Pinning was fun whilst it lasted. Thanks for all the fish.
     
  15. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    I'm told, by a member of staff, that both topics have been pinned again.
     
  16. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    As one of the two topics has closed (outrun its course), so I suggest:
    • closure of both
    • unpinning of both.
     
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