Still on Sequoia? Why waiting to switch to Tahoe?

[bmoraski]

For you, I think you should make a backup with Carbon Copy Cloner or something and then upgrade to Sequoia, if you hate it, you can restore your previous install. But I think you'll be happy with latest Sequoia, it's pretty rock solid. Rememeber, even if you have a Time Machine backup and you go to Sequoia, it will be harder to reinstall your previous macOS version and restore from Time Machine, but if you do it the same day you should be able to restore it to a TM backup that had your previous OS install.

Thank you for the advice. I will definitely do Carbon Copy.

 

[dmr727]

I'm not a fan of liquid glass, but that alone isn't keeping me from updating to Tahoe. Sequoia works great on my M4 Air, and I tend to be a if it ain't broke kind of guy. Until Apple releases something that has new features that I think I'll use, the plan is to stay put.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the rumors of 27 being a release where Apple fixes/optimizes a bunch of stuff beneath the surface. Maybe that'll convince me to pull the trigger - we'll see.

 

[blufrog]

I'm not a fan of liquid glass, but that alone isn't keeping me from updating to Tahoe. Sequoia works great on my M4 Air, and I tend to be a if it ain't broke kind of guy. Until Apple releases something that has new features that I think I'll use, the plan is to stay put.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the rumors of 27 being a release where Apple fixes/optimizes a bunch of stuff beneath the surface. Maybe that'll convince me to pull the trigger - we'll see.

Pretty much the same deal for me, too.

I hate it when my OPERATING SYSTEM stops being an OS and becomes slow, extremely buggy with something I use, and leaks memory like a sieve.

The last couple of updates seem to have addressed several memory leak problems in Sequoia, but it still eats memory over time. Have they fixed the net code bug that stopped new TCP connections after 49 days? I haven't seen anyone commenting on this.

I have found two glaring bugs in Sequoia so far, and reported them to Apple.

There is absolutely no excuse for Tahoe to be slower than Sequoia as far as the UI goes so this is the primary factor for me. I also object to any form of government intrusion ("age verification"), and there are reports that Tahoe wants you to "verify your identity". I will declare literal war before I do any of that kind of crap - I will not be oppressed!

 

[aespana]

For me is the UI and the performance. I tried a couple of times Tahoe and nop, my M1 Air works much better with Sequoia.

That's the valid reason I need to stay on Sequoia

 

[Warped9]

For me is the UI and the performance. I tried a couple of times Tahoe and nop, my M1 Air works much better with Sequoia.

That's the valid reason I need to stay on Sequoia

I had a customer come in complaining that since she upgraded to Tahoe her M1 MacBook Air has been nothing but problems. She decided to switch to an iPad Air with a keyboard case because she doesn’t need a laptop anymore. So far she seems satisfied with it. Her needs are now simpler and little needed to be transferred to her new iPad.

 

[SDAVE]

I'm not a fan of liquid glass, but that alone isn't keeping me from updating to Tahoe. Sequoia works great on my M4 Air, and I tend to be a if it ain't broke kind of guy. Until Apple releases something that has new features that I think I'll use, the plan is to stay put.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the rumors of 27 being a release where Apple fixes/optimizes a bunch of stuff beneath the surface. Maybe that'll convince me to pull the trigger - we'll see.

I don't think Apple has a choice but to mac macOS27 performance focused because they haven't focused on macOS performance for over 10 years, now removing any remnants of Intel is a good excuse, more like a milestone.

I don't mind Tahoe 26.5 on M series machines.

 

[SDAVE]

For me is the UI and the performance. I tried a couple of times Tahoe and nop, my M1 Air works much better with Sequoia.

That's the valid reason I need to stay on Sequoia

To be fair M1 (first M1 chip btw) is fairly old but a solid performer still. Even my M1 Max feels slower than the M4 Pro under Tahoe. At the end of the day M1 is ~6 years old.

 

[bmoraski]

Im going to try Sequoia on my M1 Macbook Air before i try on my 7,1. Im sure i will like it but my M1 isnt doing anything and is still like new so why not.

 

[Ganoninc]

I visited the Apple Store the other day and tried Tahoe 26.5, and I call tell it’s still running slower than Sequoia.

My test is quite simple, I open Finder, select a photo and press the space bar to preview it. Based on my observations, the currently sold MacBook Neo, and MacBook Air, struggle to play the opening animation smoothly.
The Mac Studio plays it fine, but at what cost.

My MacBook Pro M1 Pro still on Sequoia does it smoothly too.

I don’t plan to upgrade to Tahoe at all, maybe skip to the next major version directly later.

EDIT: My bad, sorry, after further examinations, I think the problem is coming from the file size (a .tif, 60 mo) at the Apple Store, so it's a SSD speed problem, not a CPU/GPU one.

 

[aespana]

To be fair M1 (first M1 chip btw) is fairly old but a solid performer still. Even my M1 Max feels slower than the M4 Pro under Tahoe. At the end of the day M1 is ~6 years old.

Yeah, I think it is important to know you Mac capabilities and understand that maybe the last piece of software is not the best for your machine.

If you don't need the latest update, stay with the one that works the best. For me is Sequoia since I can install some software that isn't available for old versions. Also, it has security patches so all good.

M1 performs really good for a six years old chip

 

[OldNewMBP]

I just updated Sequoia to 15.7.5 on my M3 iMac. I've already updated to Liquid Glass on my M2 iPad Air 13 and iPhone 14, and on those devices I haven't seen a huge difference. But from what I've seen on MacBooks and iMacs I've setup for customers Tahoe with Liquid Glass looks really different. And frankly I don't care for the look of it. But it is what it is for now until Apple's next major OS redesign or they start dealing back aspects of Liquid Glass.

So I'm wondering if I should just bite the bullet, update and live with it or hold off longer to see what they do with Liquid Glass.

Anyone else still staying on Sequoia for now? And why are you holding off upgrading to Tahoe?

Well, I am waiting on that OCLP Version 3.0.0 to drop so that I can reliably upgrade to Tahoe with my 2012 UB MBP, and I don't have any Mac newer than 2012.

 

[keksikuningas]

I visited the Apple Store the other day and tried Tahoe 26.5, and I call tell it’s still running slower than Sequoia.

My test is quite simple, I open Finder, select a photo and press the space bar to preview it. Based on my observations, the currently sold MacBook Neo, and MacBook Air, struggle to play the opening animation smoothly.
The Mac Studio plays it fine, but at what cost.

My MacBook Pro M1 Pro still on Sequoia does it smoothly too.

I don’t plan to upgrade to Tahoe at all, maybe skip to the next major version directly later.

EDIT: My bad, sorry, after further examinations, I think the problem is coming from the file size (a .tif, 60 mo) at the Apple Store, so it's a SSD speed problem, not a CPU/GPU one.

any chance the Studio was connected to a 120hz XDR display and what you observed was difference in refresh rates between 60hz and 120hz ?