Thanks again. The other reason is, I downloaded a large app from appcake, 1.4 gig, and after it installed, it didn't show an icon on my phone, but my storage space showed 1.4 gig less! Strange, so I wanted to restore to get that missing space back. Ever hear of that happening? I have iphonebrowser, but don't know where I would look to get that space back on the app