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Ryan Wee

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Sep 15, 2015
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Hi guys,

I have a jailbroken iPhone 4 running the latest version of iOS 7 (7.1.2 if I haven't mistaken) and I uninstalled a few Cydia tweaks (a boot logo, Bio and a few others) as well as installed multiple tweaks from Insanelyi (can't remember what exactly they were but I was browsing through the section related to system or something) and as usual when it's done installing Cydia would ask to respring which I did. And it took around 5 minutes for the Apple logo to appear (normally it'll show up under a minute) and since then it has been caught in a respring loop for around half an hour.

I do know that the easiest way to solve this problem is hard reset the device by holding down lock and home, then restarting into safe mode by holding down volume up but my device has a broken lock button and a partially working home button. It has 70+% battery when I installed the apps and I need to use my phone fairly urgently so that probably wouldn't be the best solution. Preferably I would not like to restore my device.

Are there any solutions? Thanks in advance for your responses.

Ryan
 

Will22

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Dec 4, 2011
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Can you not get into safe mode and then remove the tweaks you installed? Do you have Cydia Impactor or iFile installed?
 

Ryan Wee

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Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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Can you not get into safe mode and then remove the tweaks you installed? Do you have Cydia Impactor or iFile installed?

Thanks for replying Will22, but no, unfortunately the only way I can get into safe mode is by restarting the device and pressing volume up which I cannot do because of my broken lock button. And I don't have iFile or Impactor installed. I was thinking about booting from SSH but in the end I managed to drain the battery. I haven't tried charging it off a wall socket yet but I'm assuming that I can just hold down the volume up button and it should enter safe mode right?
 

iRetired

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Apr 21, 2012
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Once in safe mode, go to Cydia and delete Cydia Substrate. That will erase all of your installed tweaks, including the offending one(s). Then it's business as usual.
 

Ryan Wee

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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Once in safe mode, go to Cydia and delete Cydia Substrate. That will erase all of your installed tweaks, including the offending one(s). Then it's business as usual.

Hi iRetired,

When I remove Cydia Substrate, all it does is remove my tweaks right? Or can I just remove the new tweaks that I installed so I can keep my old ones? I'm a bit worried that removing Cydia substrate might cause the device to become unstable. Will Cydia reinstall Substrate again the next time I enter the application?

Thanks,
Ryan
 

Ryan Wee

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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Hi everyone,

As an update, I've managed to completely drain the battery of the device but since the lock button is broken there is NO WAY to get the timing right with the volume up button as I have to plug the device into a wall socket and charge it to wait until the device turns on.

Is there another solution to this? I heard that you can use SSH commands to control the device from a computer. Can anyone tell me if I need specific tweaks to be installed on my device or does it work without extra tweaks? Also, the device connects to my computer and gets disconnected around 20 seconds later and it takes another 20 seconds or so to connect again with the computer.

Thank you very much for your help.
 

Will22

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Dec 4, 2011
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Hi everyone,

As an update, I've managed to completely drain the battery of the device but since the lock button is broken there is NO WAY to get the timing right with the volume up button as I have to plug the device into a wall socket and charge it to wait until the device turns on.

Is there another solution to this? I heard that you can use SSH commands to control the device from a computer. Can anyone tell me if I need specific tweaks to be installed on my device or does it work without extra tweaks? Also, the device connects to my computer and gets disconnected around 20 seconds later and it takes another 20 seconds or so to connect again with the computer.

Thank you very much for your help.

Sorry but I can't help, I only did my first jailbreak two months ago so still learning myself.
 

iRetired

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Apr 21, 2012
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Hi iRetired,

When I remove Cydia Substrate, all it does is remove my tweaks right? Or can I just remove the new tweaks that I installed so I can keep my old ones? I'm a bit worried that removing Cydia substrate might cause the device to become unstable. Will Cydia reinstall Substrate again the next time I enter the application?

Thanks,
Ryan

When you remove Cydia Substrate, all it does is delete the installed tweaks. You then manually add them back, one at a time. I think there is a Cydia tweak that does a full backup and restore, but I can't remember the name of it right now. Maybe it's something simple like Cydia Backup? Anyways, there won't be any device instability problems - at least I've never encountered any. And finally, yes, Substrate is reinstalled when you fire up Cydia after a reboot of your iDevice.
 

Ryan Wee

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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When you remove Cydia Substrate, all it does is delete the installed tweaks. You then manually add them back, one at a time. I think there is a Cydia tweak that does a full backup and restore, but I can't remember the name of it right now. Maybe it's something simple like Cydia Backup? Anyways, there won't be any device instability problems - at least I've never encountered any. And finally, yes, Substrate is reinstalled when you fire up Cydia after a reboot of your iDevice.

Thank you very much iRetired. The problem I'm facing with right now is I can't boot into safe mode simply because I can't turn on my device and time the volume up button in time since I'm turning the device on by plugging it in (again my lock button's broken :/). Are there any alternatives or can you give me an approximate timing on when I should hit the volume button?

Thanks again, Ryan.
 

blueflower

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Thank you very much iRetired. The problem I'm facing with right now is I can't boot into safe mode simply because I can't turn on my device and time the volume up button in time since I'm turning the device on by plugging it in (again my lock button's broken :/). Are there any alternatives or can you give me an approximate timing on when I should hit the volume button?

Thanks again, Ryan.

Hi you could go into safe mode by using a gesture. Check out the tweak the tweak Activator. You can get into safe mode for example by tapping the homescreen with three fingers.
 

darricksailo

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Dec 18, 2012
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Thank you very much iRetired. The problem I'm facing with right now is I can't boot into safe mode simply because I can't turn on my device and time the volume up button in time since I'm turning the device on by plugging it in (again my lock button's broken :/). Are there any alternatives or can you give me an approximate timing on when I should hit the volume button?

Thanks again, Ryan.

What do you mean you are unable to time it? Right as you see the apple logo, just hold the volume up button until it boots to your lock screen

This should boot up the device in mobile substrate disabled mode

Once there, you can uninstall the offending tweaks

In order to SSH into your iPhone, you will need to have installed OpenSSH from cydia

I would also recommend to get the power and home button fixed. Especially if you're jailbroken for situations like this and you need to enter DFU mode (for example)

It shouldn't be too expensive to buy some flex cable replacements and tools to perform the repair
 

darricksailo

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Dec 18, 2012
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Can you not get into safe mode and then remove the tweaks you installed? Do you have Cydia Impactor or iFile installed?

Cydia Impactor does not work with iOS 7. Only iOS 8.1-8.4 (I think)

Hi you could go into safe mode by using a gesture. Check out the tweak the tweak Activator. You can get into safe mode for example by tapping the homescreen with three fingers.

The problem is that he cannot boot up into his lock/home screen so he can't do anything that requires being on the home screen
 

Ryan Wee

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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I just want to give a really big thank you to all of you who responded :)

What do you mean you are unable to time it? Right as you see the apple logo, just hold the volume up button until it boots to your lock screen

This should boot up the device in mobile substrate disabled mode

Once there, you can uninstall the offending tweaks

In order to SSH into your iPhone, you will need to have installed OpenSSH from cydia

I would also recommend to get the power and home button fixed. Especially if you're jailbroken for situations like this and you need to enter DFU mode (for example)

It shouldn't be too expensive to buy some flex cable replacements and tools to perform the repair

When I meant that I couldn't get it into safe mode, I meant I couldn't sync the time of me pressing the volume button when the apple logo appeared hence it just got straight into the respring loop as usual.


Completely missed that, you are right. Thanks for pointing it out and sorry to the OP for misdirecting you.

No problem :)
 

Ryan Wee

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 15, 2015
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UPDATE: I managed to get into safe mode after trying multiple times of holding the volume button when the apple logo appears, draining the battery to 0 and repeating. Finally, I got into safe mode.

Thank you guys so much for helping me out with this and for those who potentially might face this problem (chances of someone stuck in a respring loop with a broken lock button is low but I hope this will thread help), just keep trying. Eventually you'll get the timing right and you'll enter into safe mode :)

Thanks again,
Ryan
 
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