Stolen iPhone 7+

[44267547]

Exactly.
There's many people and businesses that buy imei blocked devices from the US and sell them to be used in Europe, South America, Asia etc.
They obviously function fine.
There's also services online that will swap imei blacklisted devices. So a blacklisted iPhone from Europe will be traded for a blacklisted iPhone from the US.
The user above likes to argue and claim he knows things from his phone rep job but is just posting nonsense
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Lmao.
you locked the stolen iPhone and you ultimately bricked it too? And after that there was a message on the iPhone screen this device will self destruct in 5 seconds and it blew up in 100 pieces.
Wow, what an imagination.

That's fine that you continue to act petulant. But ignorance is your main issue, I already suggested what you could do to prove my theory by contacting your carriers fraud department . You should be embarrassed/ashamed @Applejuiced how you respond in such a childish way on MacRumors to another forum member, especially from someone as yourself. It's clear your wrong and you fail to prove otherwise.

 

[off_piste]

This is more of a valid statement than the blocking of IMEI stuff. Although unlocking without removing any existing data on the device and unlocking by removing all data on it are 2 different matters. I'm sure the microprocessor on the iPhone can be reset but that will probably erase all the previous data from it.

The IMEI block only works within the same country and that to only if the carriers cooperate with each other by sharing such info, which often is the case as it makes life easier to lure customers over and port their numbers, but outside of a specific country it's not valid at all.

I provided a link to the organization which runs the international database. Nearly a thousand carriers are members. Now, whether they abide by the list I couldn't tell you but to claim "it's not valid at all" is a bit too strong particularly without any source to back your assertion.

 

[akash.nu]

I provided a link to the organization which runs the international database. Nearly a thousand carriers are members. Now, whether they abide by the list I couldn't tell you but to claim "it's not valid at all" is a bit too strong particularly without any source to back your assertion.

The source is the mobile black market operating throughout Asian and African countries.

 

[off_piste]

The source is the mobile black market operating throughout Asian and African countries.

That's a far cry different from "all."

That's like saying a heroin law isn't effective at all because there are large cartels still selling heroin.

 

[Applejuiced]

I provided a link to the organization which runs the international database. Nearly a thousand carriers are members. Now, whether they abide by the list I couldn't tell you but to claim "it's not valid at all" is a bit too strong particularly without any source to back your assertion.

It would be nice to have thousands of carriers and countries participate in this project but clearly it's not there at the present day. And realistically it takes tremendous work, effort, financing and legislation to have such an international system that covers all the wireless carriers in the world.
The website is nice and great idea but none of it is implemented and imei blacklisting currently doesn't go much further than the local country the device belongs and is entered in.

 

[rijc99]

As far as I'm concerned icloud lock and imei blacklisting works to a certain degree. But I think we can all agree phones are still being stolen and people are still being robbed for them. Obvious conclusion is these locked or blacklisted phones have some value in the black market. It could be all are parted out but I doubt it. We may not know how to bypass the security measures but the upper bad guys where the lower bad guys funnel the phones to do.

Also, don't assume such high ethical practices on every cell carrier and their employees. I'm sure the criminal element would not have a hard time buying the right people who can remove phones from blacklists.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Arguing over whether IMEI blacklist works outside the origin country is silly. We always say that the moment that your iPhone is stolen, you can pretty much kiss it goodbye for good. It doesn't mean there is absolutely no chance you can ever recover it, but the possibility is extremely slim. Same thing with IMEI blacklist. More likely than not, someone will still be able to use it outside of your country.

 

[scapegoat81]

Unfortunately there is still value in a iCloud locked iPhone - on CL and eBay.

What a bunch of scumbags

 

[rijc99]

What a bunch of scumbags

People will break into cars for change in a cup holder so never underestimate how low someone will go.

 

[lml999]

I hear you, but find my iphone is not really and anti theft or police stolen item recovery program.
It's more of a I cant remember what room I left my iphone at, let's look on the map and play a sound and try to look for it it type of thing.

Right. Found my neighbor's phone in a pile of leaves in our backyard. She was sure it wasn't there!

 

[macfacts]

You know the sound your car makes when you use the key fob to remotely lock it? Apple should let users have their iPhones make that sound with "raise to wake".

 

[highplansdrifter]

U might try disputing it on your CC as well as contact your state's attorney general office consumer protection dept and file a complaint with them maybe! Good luck!

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

U might try disputing it on your CC as well as contact your state's attorney general office consumer protection dept and file a complaint with them maybe! Good luck!

Get something stolen and dispute it with your CC company. Really?

 

[Applejuiced]

Get something stolen and dispute it with your CC company. Really?

Tell me about it.
You get your phone stolen and he says to contact the attorney general to file a complaint at the consumer protection dept?
People make no sense....

 

[MrWoofus]

"......locked the stolen iPhone and you ultimately bricked it too? And after that there was a message on the iPhone screen this device will self destruct in 5 seconds and it blew up in 100 pieces."



Now THERE'S a good feature to add to the iPhone 8!

 

[GooMan]

Doesn't sound like an interesting story to me. Court dates and teenagers ending up in jail? Why not just get insurance so when your son loses his phone again, you just pay the deductible and get another one. All that seems extreme for an iPhone

Yeah, it is all my fault. My son didn't lose his phone, it was stolen. If someone wants to steal almost $1,000 let them face the consequences regardless of their age.

 

[gadgetfreaky]

U might try disputing it on your CC as well as contact your state's attorney general office consumer protection dept and file a complaint with them maybe! Good luck!

dispute with CC co? that's insane and fraud. at best it will get denied.
and it's not the credit card cos fault