I am using Face ID with apps that don't have the option built-in, like the Mail app, Settings app, Wallet app etc. If someone gets my phone while it is unlocked, said person won't have access to my apps to get private information.
As I previously noted, if Face ID fails with a stock app, the user is prompted for the passcode. If the person holding the phone doesn't know the passcode, my personal information on the phone is still safe.
Well we are specifically talking about a situation where the thief knows the device passcode, so Face ID would not help in this situation.
It falls back on prompt for passcode but you can decide not to proceed and exit the app, then try again to see if FaceID works on 2nd or 3rd attempt. If not, just head for a quiet place (restroom if need be) and set up face ID again.
I was under the impression that this was a “still own my iPhone” scenario. If not, then my bad, I apologise
That's not how passkeys work, or look like they are going to work. They are secured by your existing device security.
This is why is it incredibly important to be vigilant and ensure no one learns what your device passcode is.
These are the steps to logging into an account using a passkey as per Google instructions:
- Go to the application.
- Click Sign in.
- Select their passkey.
- Use the device screen unlock to complete the login
Passkeys | Google for Developers
Fast, secure sign-in using fingerprint-, face- or device-lock based on industry standardsdevelopers.google.com
Yes or have to verify any emergency registered contacts name and phone numbers. They could also do security questions which the thieves obviously would not know and also have a 3-day wait period for any failed authentication. The master device passcode method is good too. The regular passcode would be different from the master device passcode.
I mean, it could be an option (to have an un-overriddeable security factor). But I think people will still complain because one method will be defaulted and some people will be screwed over by the default.
Apple's new Lockdown mode is not much of a lockdown mode, in my opinion. And if Apple were truly focused on device and account security in said mode, the feature would require a separate (from the main passcode) alphanumeric PIN code to enable / disable.
Yeah, overall reading this thread. The thief knew your passcode and it is something to fall back on if the face Id did not work.
The folks concerned about being targeted by governments are not letting their phones out of their possession (they know the PIN is ONLY effective if a malicious actor ALSO has the physical device). Because, for state actors with their money and resources, if they obtain physical access, all security goes out the window. Lockdown is for those that will NEVER be without their device but needs protection against the most effective remote attacks.
I get that but, lockdown mode still looks very weak to me. Apple needs to ramp up safety for the average user as well.
No.
Me, I am all for a more secure setup. And I really feel for the victims, please don’t think I don’t care because I do. I am just trying to be realistic regarding what we can expect from Apple. I hate how Apple prioritises mass convenience over individual loss. I could consider to abandon Apple over this but I’m too heavily invested in their stuff and I can personally work around the issue.
I would absolutely welcome such options.
I take it you haven't interacted much with online forums. Every so often, there are people who post things that are untrue. And expend a great deal of time and effort doing so. Why would anyone do that? Who knows -- there are a lot of troubled people in the world. But "troll" posts happen often enough that people who spend lots of time on forums learn to be skeptical. Sorry you have to deal with the skepticism in addition to your problems with the theft of your phone and accounts. Hopefully, your measured and reasonable responses will help mitigate the skepticism.
More likely to ignore it & rely on the supercycle that comes with the 'new improved' security that comes on iPhone 16 with both fingerprint on the power button aswell as Face ID.
