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Even if it's in portrait? Wow, stubborn! You can hardly blame others for you forcing yourself to watch it in such a way when it's so easy to just turn your phone around...
Clearly not if it's in portrait. But that's a circular argument to say that since you watch portrait videos in portrait on a phone then therefore it makes sense to record them that way. People watch them like that on the phone because that's how they were recorded, but would have a better experience if they watched them in landscape view if they were recorded that way, just like any other video media that wasn't recorded by a cell phone has been for ages and still continues to be.
It's not circular, if you remember correctly I was quite specifically tackling the argument that portrait recording always leads to scaling down the video to fit on a widescreen monitors. I said sometimes people just record stuff to play back to themselves or maybe iMessage to a friend, so scaling down doesn't always happen, and it's not always such a problem. Even you agree now. End.
Vertical videos drives me crazy and I refuse to watch them. However, every damn news station on the planet loves them.
Out of the many billions of films and videos shout in the last 120 years you would be hard pressed to find more than a handful shot at an aspect ratio less than 1:1, much less 0.56:1. Only amateur/casual material shot incorrectly by someone with a phone will be in this ratio.
It's not that they love portrait (they, hate it), it's that they LOVE free production on a story they can't cover.
This is one of the biggest reasons to offer landscape as default. We lose so much context and information when people accidentally/indifferently shoot important/historical material when holding a phone wrong. History will likely look back on these important video recordings as an abomination.
Would be great if iPhones could record videos in the up-right landscape mode regardless of how you hold it. The most annoying thing to me is my 5S taking pictures or recording videos upside-down accidentally. I never want to record anything upside-down. They need to fix this as well.
Any scaling aside, which wasn't what I was referring to, but when it comes to actually naturally watching video content, even of someone is recording for someone to watch on their mobile phone, landscape is still more natural as it's the format we humans are used to and expect when it comes to video from any other source essentially.
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Or because it's actually "incorrect" given that no other video content is recorded in portrait and hasn't been at all before cell phones. That alone pretty much tells the whole story of that format.
Sorry, but not aside, the point I made revolved around that. Why specifically quote me, address my point, but actually put my argument aside and refer to something else? Bye.
Why do you care so much how other people record a video? People are having fun out there and don't even care.
I know I see this all the time on youtube. It makes me mad. But apple cant do that. Remember when people would turn their camera's that way to get a long picture? And you can't piss people off like that. They will try and take a picture and be like "what the hell?" Just do what I do post this link in all the youtube comments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqHZJe6306k
I post that in a comment almost every day... We just need to let people know. But I do tell my mom every time she trys to take a picture or video and well she will do it again. Apple can not do what you want them to.
I post that in a comment almost every day... We just need to let people know. But I do tell my mom every time she trys to take a picture or video and well she will do it again. Apple can not do what you want them to.
If people want to record video in portrait so they can view it on their own phone screen and nothing else, then great. Just don't upload it to YouTube because that's when it'll look like crap. Watching one of those videos is like looking thru a keyhole. You Always wonder what you're missing on the left and right sides of the video.
But I agree with coding in a toggle in the options to force landscape orientation when recording video. That way, the video itself will be a little sideways for the first few seconds until the shooter realizes it and rotates the phone.
At least some news stations fill the emptiness on the left and right with a mirrored, blurred effect to fill the frame of the screen and make it look a lot better. Even though you're not fooling anyway. All we can do is just remind people to turn their phone before pressing record.
But I agree with coding in a toggle in the options to force landscape orientation when recording video. That way, the video itself will be a little sideways for the first few seconds until the shooter realizes it and rotates the phone.
At least some news stations fill the emptiness on the left and right with a mirrored, blurred effect to fill the frame of the screen and make it look a lot better. Even though you're not fooling anyway. All we can do is just remind people to turn their phone before pressing record.
The majority of video looks better in landscape mode, and thus the audio playback system should reflect this, how hard could it have been to have included 3 tiny speakers, after all the ipad mini is of size that could accommodate 3 tiny speakers, I would love to get to know the design research and final decision on the audio playback of the ipad and ipad mini.
The OP has a view, we should respect it, it is a valid view.
The OP has a view, we should respect it, it is a valid view.
The point that you made included more than scaling and compression, it also referred to someone recording it for use on mobile devices by others, and what I replied with certainly addressed that part of it. But since you keep on wanting to leave somewhere apparently with all the "byes" I guess bye then.
Yes, We Need An Option.
Really, the best way to go about getting rid of the problem would be to include an option in the settings for Camera to "Always record video in landscape."
When someone goes to the video mode for the first time, there would be a prompt to warn the user about shooting video in portrait/ask if they would like to record in landscape all the time.
Really, the best way to go about getting rid of the problem would be to include an option in the settings for Camera to "Always record video in landscape."
When someone goes to the video mode for the first time, there would be a prompt to warn the user about shooting video in portrait/ask if they would like to record in landscape all the time.
Why is it incorrect to shoot video in the natural orientation of the most common video viewing devices (phones)?
Personally I think it really depends on the subject and framing that you want. Still photography has used portrait orientation for a very long time now. Video didn't follow suit because it's a damn pain to flip that CRT on it's side, but now we are all recording video, and watching it on our cameras(phones), so why hate the extra freedom that advancements in technology have provided?
A lot of the time, what your missing on the sides in portrait mode is up close shots of the backs of people's heads, or other useless action that detracts from the focus of the shot, but I'll shutup about that if we ever get optical or otherwise lossless(nokia 1020) zoom.
EDIT: I forgot to say that I think the option for horizontal recording while the phone is held portrait is an awesome idea. I'm with the OP on that idea.
Personally I think it really depends on the subject and framing that you want. Still photography has used portrait orientation for a very long time now. Video didn't follow suit because it's a damn pain to flip that CRT on it's side, but now we are all recording video, and watching it on our cameras(phones), so why hate the extra freedom that advancements in technology have provided?
A lot of the time, what your missing on the sides in portrait mode is up close shots of the backs of people's heads, or other useless action that detracts from the focus of the shot, but I'll shutup about that if we ever get optical or otherwise lossless(nokia 1020) zoom.
EDIT: I forgot to say that I think the option for horizontal recording while the phone is held portrait is an awesome idea. I'm with the OP on that idea.
People should be able to shoot video in whatever orientation they like.
Assuming that everyone only views videos in landscape mode is also a very bad assumption, given the fact that many people view on their tablets and phones these days and are not limited to a computer.
Assuming that everyone only views videos in landscape mode is also a very bad assumption, given the fact that many people view on their tablets and phones these days and are not limited to a computer.
When I'm viewing a video on my phone or tablet I would much rather have it be a normal landscape video where I simply turn my phone or tablet into landscape view (if I'm not already using it that way at the moment) and view it that way as I would any other video naturally on a television or movie theater or anywhere else that was around for ages before cell phones and is still around and displays videos naturally in landscape format.
If you have nothing better to do than become so distraught over vertical videos then you really have way too much free time.
It's a vertical video, big deal. If you refuse to watch them then don't watch them. There are some cases when it actually can be useful for taking a quick shot. Most of the time when you're filming with an iPhone you're not trying to make a cinematic masterpiece you're just quickly capturing something to show a friend on your phone.
I never ever shoot vertical videos unless it's snapchat or a front-facing video, just because in those instances its much more easier to do so.
It's a vertical video, big deal. If you refuse to watch them then don't watch them. There are some cases when it actually can be useful for taking a quick shot. Most of the time when you're filming with an iPhone you're not trying to make a cinematic masterpiece you're just quickly capturing something to show a friend on your phone.
I never ever shoot vertical videos unless it's snapchat or a front-facing video, just because in those instances its much more easier to do so.
Vertical videos make sense when you are also watching the videos on a phone. Which more and more people do.
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Seriously. This is becoming a toilet seat debate.
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Seriously. This is becoming a toilet seat debate.
What about watching Netflix and iTunes?????
Your eyes natural field of vision is "widescreen" so how can narrow-screen vertical make sense (other than Face Time/Skype)? The iPhone in landscape more closely matches your natural field of vision.
Also the purpose of this thread is about all of the "important" events captured incorrectly (wrong aspect ratio and vital information missing) for posterity and shown on YouTube and TV/cable news type shows. Maybe you would understand the correct from if shooting something important but the majority of people don't. We need to be protected from them in some way like default Landscape video (you can still select vertical if you want).
Another advantage to default landscape video recording. It much easer and more stable holding the iPhone in portrait to shoot, plus you can do it with 1 hand.
Its only incorrect if its not captured at all. Some people are getting too worked up about something that really doesn't concern them. If I'm happy with shooting video a certain way, so what. There's no need to "stop the madness" as you call it.