There's been a couple of stores reported on these boards that have been advising people to wait for the updated MacBook Pros....I don't really understand how thats good business. Seriously, if they have product and people want it...and its good product, then why advise against a purchase? If the update was within a week or so (or "a few days") then I would applaud them for being so honest. Since those stores are in the same boat as most of us, anticipating a new release but ultimately having no evidence of when the update will come it doesn't make sense to me. People who are determined to get the latest update will have looked online & seen the rumour sites. Some people just want a tool that is high end and will run their software and do the job...ie aren't obsessed w/ the latest updates. We now have Oct 14th as the 'next guaranteed' release date....much like July-Aug whatever & Sept 9th...and 15th. There's also rumours that it won't happen then and could be pushed back as far as Jan for the MacWorld event. If either of these does happen would that have been good advice (back in AUGUST) for people not to buy but to wait? I read somewhere that the reason there was a shortage at the end of Aug was Apple tends to hold onto more stock to meet the student discount deals that come in. Its actually not an indication of a new pending release for that time of year. Does the fact that its over soon mean they'll be releasing more MBPs to retailers?