Strava Launches Apple Watch App With GPS Support For Series 2 Owners

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    Popular running app Strava has been updated with support for the Apple Watch Series 2, enabling runners to use Strava on their wrist and leave their iPhone at home.

    The new support in version 5.13.0 makes full use of the built-in GPS found in the second-generation Apple Watch, meaning users of the app no longer have to be tethered to iOS to track their workouts. Strava Head of Integration Mateo Ortega said the company saw this as just a "first step" in its plans for supporting the Apple Watch 2.

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    Users can expect Strava to keep track of a series of metrics which are displayed on their wrist, including heart rate, time, distance, pace, and running speed.

    Strava joins a small number of apps that support GPS functionality on the Apple Watch Series 2, which includes the likes of Runkeeper and Nike+ Run Club. Strava users simply need to update their iOS app for the changes to take effect.

    Article Link: Strava Launches Apple Watch App With GPS Support For Series 2 Owners
     
  2. DhobiWanKenobi macrumors member

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    For me, this is the app I've been waiting for to make the watch purchase worthwhile. I better get deciding which model I want...
     
  3. Grasbak macrumors 6502

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    Have they solved the duplicate entry issues with the health app yet? I use Strava on iPhone but switched off the health app integration for that reason.
     
  4. jdmagoo1 macrumors regular

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    Have they solved the inaccurate HR data and calorie count yet? I tested this app multiple times and it was nowhere near as accurate as the normal Apple app or the Cyclemeter app. Time for a revisit
     
  5. dannymcg macrumors member

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    I'd like them to fix the bug that keeps duplicating all activities in the activity app. It's utterly ridiculous.
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    Almost certainly not. It's infuriating.
     
  6. Xavier macrumors 68030

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    Yes! Now I can 'consider' the Apple Watch. I still find my Garmin watch far more useful for physical activities.
     
  7. devfarce macrumors newbie

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    I ran with the app yesterday and I'd say don't ditch your Garmin yet. First of all, the data provided by strava is very basic. Pace information is all over the place. People love to blame this on "GPS" in the watch but it's 100% algorithm in the app. The Apple Watch has the power to provide amazingly accurate pace based on combined stride and GPS but nobody has done the work or research to properly implement including Apple, strava, runkeeper, etc. Distance is only shown as x.x and not down to 100ths x.xx as in many other watches. No mileage alerts, no customizable workouts or display info. I have a TomTom runner and new strava has nothing on it, so I've been running with two watches for a while now and while I feel like a nerd, I consider myself to be testing the system for my own confidence.

    I love strava and the social network they've created but as for now, the Apple watch cannot replace a Garmin for a serious runner. In time I believe it will be the best option but that is many months out. It's sad to see that it has taken so long for any real progress on GPS apps in these devices.
     
  8. Mike Oxard macrumors 6502a

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    Why don't any of the running apps show live cadence?
     
  9. 66gonzo macrumors regular

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    Spot on! The watch app was actually worse than the NRC Nike app.
     
  10. Someyoungguy macrumors 6502

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    You say this is 100% software, but the complaint about pace accuracy is consistent across all apps, and reviews indicate some weird distance and tracking anomalies. I think resolution and sampling rate is not what it needs to be in order to save battery. I wish I could tell it that I have no desire to run a marathon and to burn the battery on 5-10K.
     
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    Many of you know I think the Apple Watch is a waste of time but if this app is as good as they say it is, it could be a turning point.

    Mind. They still have to sort out the ugliness, battery, and price.

    Still....getting there albeit very slowly...
     
  13. Sarah in Abu Dhabi macrumors newbie

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    This is a great step forwards for the Apple Watch as a fitness watch. Both being able to leave the phone at home, but also the new version letting you switch sport during an activity great for a duathlon.... Next challenge strava is to have the swim option too... But one step at a time.
     
  14. Fall Under Cerulean Kites macrumors 6502

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    I’ve been looking forward to trying this app for some time now. The Nike App has disapointed me several times by losing my runs / gps tracks about 30% of the time. The Nike app has definitely gotten better in this respect, however Nike Run Club still locks up your data and does not allow for any exporting to other apps and services. I’ve used RunGap for exporting from Nike Run Club, but RunGap has discontinued support for this due to Nike’s continued blocking of data access methods. This makes Nike a complete non-starter for me.

    I have hopes that the Apple Watch 2 platform is actually reliable and accurate, and that any defficiencies in the new Strava AW2 app can be addressed. It would be nice to have a true replacement for my Garmin for easy training days.
     
  15. sos47 macrumors regular

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    when im 70th years old perhaps i would buy an AW. Until then i prefer solid sport watches like Garmin.
     
  16. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    The Apple Watch is a very well rounded fitness Watch. I have tested Garmins and they are good in their own respects too. Garmin is definitely more rugged and seems more fit for marathons and GPS tacking. But they fall short in their software issues with crashes/Sluggish and sketchy User Interface.

    The Apple Watch does a fairly good job of tracking calories, steps, various assortment of workouts and now swimming in Series 2. The Apple Watch isn't as in depth as Garmin, but it's also not any less accurate in celebration and fitness data. The Apple Watch also is highly more customizable than Garmin, which most seem to appreciate.

    Both Watches have strengths and weaknesses.
     
  17. Juiceboy macrumors regular

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    I was disapointed the App update just said Bug fixes. I noticed the watch app was different but didn't know it was now standalone GPS as well. Now if only Nike RC and Strava could play nixe and export to each other without a middleman. NRC is better for running for me as it now has built in music controls which only sometimes show up??

    But the actual Strava app wins hands down for riding.
     
  18. pdaholic macrumors 65816

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    How long has the Apple Watch been out? Not even 2 years? Garman and others have had years to sort this stuff out. My first Garman (forerunner 2 something) wasn't nearly as nice of an experience as the Apple Watch and the latter does so much more. But let's face it, Apple Watch will probably never compare to dedicated running watches.
     
  19. MrTrout macrumors newbie

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    I ran with the Strava app for Watch 2 this morning and I wouldn't recommend it. The pace was completely inaccurate, I couldn't set how far I was going to run, and no haptic feedback on kilometre boundaries. Absolutely useless for even an average running like myself. Did they even ask for feedback from a runner before releasing it?
     
  20. Grayburn macrumors 68000

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    This wound me up too but I used the watch this morning like I do every morning for the ride to work and it's showing one ride in Activity. See pic which includes todays ride and recent duplicated rides.
     

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  21. satchmo macrumors 68020

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    If Apple truly has it's sights on fitness and health, then it's possible. We know Apple's strength is software/hardware integration. I hope there are teams working on adding more detailed metrics for running.

    Of course, if they let the watch languish and focus on bands/fashion, then it will remain a general all-purpose watch.
     
  22. krelnik macrumors newbie

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    FYI I know this MacRumors post was mostly written from a PR released by Strava, but there's an interesting story in how this update has been received by the installed base of Strava users.

    Check out this thread on Strava's support forum:

    https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us...0-Updated-Strava-app-for-Apple-Watch-Series-2

    The TL;DR version is:

    The old version of Strava's watch app was basically just a second screen to the existing IOS app. You could start your run on the phone or on the watch, either way all features were available.

    This new version is a complete ground-up redesign to take advantage of the GPS in the series 2 watch, but as a result the app is almost completely separate from the IOS app both in feature set and functionality. For instance if you press start on the watch, then open the IOS app, as far as you can tell on the phone you are not doing a run. And vice versa - if you start it on the IOS app, you can't get your current distance or speed on the watch.

    The problem with this redesign, which you can see in that thread above, is that it has broken lots and lots of use cases for existing users. For instance, if you want heart rate data in your run, you have to use the watch app. But if you want to use the recently introduced Beacon feature (that lets loved ones track where you are LIVE as you run), you have to use the IOS app. And so on with voice prompts, route maps and other things not being accessible when using the watch app now. And there are yet other things that bike users rely on that are now unusable with this new watch app.

    The kicker is that some of these features like Beacon are Premium features, for which users pay a monthly/annual subscription fee. So Apple Watch users suddenly can't access features they are paying for. Many are threatening to cancel their subscriptions.

    After an initial round of complaints, Strava pinned a summary reply you can see at the top of that thread above, and this part in particular has got many users even more angry:

    > Add option to keep watch tethered:
    > (Recording with power/cadence sensors, checking recording on phone)
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    > "This is something we're considering but it's not on our immediate roadmap. It's a significant
    > engineering lift to ensure a seamless experience. We want to better understand the use cases and
    > how the Apple Watch itself will evolve this year before we make any concrete plans."

    The "not on our immediate roadmap" thing has people livid!

    This reminds me of back when Apple redesigned Final Cut Pro and pissed off all their professional users a couple years back. There's definitely a story here in how NOT to keep an existing user base happy.
     

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