I bet you have been looking forward to these posts... I had a spur of stubbornness fueled by dumbness (or the other way around..). Long story short, I upgraded to iOS4.1 before I realized that I should check if this was a good idea... Now I realize that it probably wasn't a very good idea.. The phone in question was a 3G. Now it's a brick.. Will it stay a brick or can I do anything with it? I'm using OS X but have access to windows7 (and XP through VMWare). Thanks for your help! FYI: Laughing and chuckling allowed, I have been stupid. And is banging my head in the wall.