Stubborn people.

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by nando2323, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. nando2323 macrumors 6502a

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    Why is it that ever since switching over to the mac I find more windows users that are so stubborn at just the thought of OSX being a superior OS. I find that funny how these people have never even attempted to use OSX but yet they bag on it like it sucks.

    I came over from a very long history of Windows and DOS PC's since my first Desk-Star 286SX 33, up until my last PC. My custom built P4 3.4 Extreme Ed., 2GB DDR400, 256MB 7900GT, (2) Hitachi SATA 2 160GB RAID 0, all this on Vista Ultimate with the great score of 2.5 NICE!!!!! And the damn volume shadow copies did not work because Vista cant handle the INTEL ICHR7 RAID, isn't that just great!!!

    Now I have a 24" iMac and I personally think its the best computer that I have ever owned, this thing really "Just Works" damn I love saying that. Call me a fanboy if you want I love my iMac and I absolutely love OSX, I feel like I could of been so much better off in life If I had been using OSX since Panther. I guess its better late then never right!!!
     
  2. ryannel2003 macrumors 68000

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    Thats just the way people think. I know a lot of my friends have bad memories of OS 9 and the colored iMac's. They constantly crashed, and my schools purchased in bulk. I love the design of the iMac G3, but OS 8 and 9 are horrible. So when anybody says anything about Mac, they are constantly reminded of OS 9 and have no clue that OS X is completely different. Some friends of mine were over last night and they loved my iMac. They thought it was so cool that the whole computer was behind the screen.
     
  3. Kadman macrumors 65816

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    I have used both platforms since their beginnings and I can honestly say that neither is better than the other IMO. Both have their strenghts, weaknesses, and quirks. Period.
     
  4. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I forget where I got this from but thank Tom.

    Yes, I checked Google.
     
  5. iToaster macrumors 68000

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    I know exactly what you're talking about. A friend at school always says little lies about Macs... sweet little lies... I'm going to go listen to Fleetwood Mac.
     
  6. Washac macrumors 68020

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    Yes, but the Mac has more strengths, and less weaknesses and quirks :)
     
  7. WildPalms macrumors 6502a

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    Ahh yes, but then, look at at the topic title. There are stubborn people and there are people who will remain stubbornly ignorant. :) (not directed at you)
     
  8. czachorski macrumors 6502a

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    It's called conservation of misery. :D

    Apple offerings solve the conservation of misery equation in a different way that caters to a different group of people with different expectations for your computer. (less options, less features, more user friendliness, more "it just works"). If you are in that group, then Macs are a blessing. I am, and they are for me.
     
  9. peejack macrumors 6502a

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    I found the same when moving from pc. Was a little scary at times, but once I got used to it I love osx. When I HAVE to use a pc now it's just real so awkward, and as for vista, what a pile of ****
     
  10. Mistershark macrumors regular

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    There you go. Posted as one of the comments, a little ways down.
     
  11. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Just the way it is. I'm part of a forum where theres an absolute minority of Mac users, there are about 5 of us. It's fantastic when people post about XP problems and "help me!" topics, where us Mac users sit there biting our tongues :cool: whilst they also complain about OSX and how bad it is. It's ironic and awesome.


    I mean OSX isn't without it's own problems. It's purely comparative.
     
  12. TheBonk macrumors 6502

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    One of my friends just hates Macs and all of Apple for some reason. Yet she has never seen or tried a Mac in person. She's never even owned an Apple product. I say, don't judge something unless you've used it at least once.

    I've used Windows for about 10 years and I've been using a Mac for 10 months. I can say that I'm more satisfied with my Mac than I have been with Windows in 10 years.
     
  13. Slip macrumors 6502a

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    Both are coded by humans after all
     
  14. Sesshi macrumors G3

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    I suppose it depends on your point of view. Despite owning more Apples than many of the Applezombies here can slobbber over and using them for what might be called very high-end uses, I don't consider it superior - just a viable alternative for specific tasks and needs. Both platforms have pros and cons.

    For me, Windows ultimately has more pros as a general-purpose platform since I know exactly what I'm doing yet don't have the time nor the inclination to start everything with a tweak (such as Linux), but I appreciate it's not the same for everyone else.

    However, I do concur at people who hate something without even beginning to know it properly, just because it doesn't belong in their field of familiarity as it were. This isn't unique to Mac-haters of course. Having been here for a while I'd say it's also very common here, which is made all the more mildly irritating by the added holier-than-thou attitude (which itself comes from ignorance) of many Apple users.
     
  15. Shotglass macrumors 65816

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    Rule of thumb:

    People. Are. Stupid.

    Seriously, it's not worth it.
     
  16. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Mac OS 9 can be set up to be very stable.

    That much is for certain. Although I enjoy the Mac OS much more than Windows.

    Sage advice.

    This is a very common occurrence. One time back in the Mac OS 8 days, I really let a Windows Fanboy have it. He started bad mouthing Macs, which I usually take with a grain of salt, but for some reason he got under my skin.

    In the computer lab we were in, were both Macs and PCs. Made him sit down at the PC and I sat at the Mac, then proceeded to challenge him on a large number of tasks that the Mac could do easily where as Windows took more steps or couldn't do it at all.

    I nailed him pretty good. He got pissed. And I said something to the effect that he shouldn't be saying things that he doesn't have a clue about. And that if he was a really knowledgeable about computers, he would know about more than one platform.

    Not the best approach needless to say. But I was younger then. Now I use the soft approach and have converted many to the Mac platform.

    I see this in both camps. Mac users who have no idea about Windows and Windows users who have no idea about Macs. Both of these camps tend to be over zealous for their particular platform...unfortunately.
     
  17. d_and_n5000 macrumors 6502a

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    You'll find that a lot of people at my school don't particularly like Macs, but at least they aren't directly anti-Mac.

    But quite honestly they have a really, really good excuse to feel like they do. The situation, quite simply, ain't good.

    In our main lab, we currently have 5 B&W PowerMacs and a good, oh...22 iMacs, maybe? All of them are running 9.2. Now, of course, all of our programs are old, we haven't been able to take the last few major upgrades of Accelerated Reader and our library database because we're still on Classic. They also aren't the most stable of creatures, and are frequently crashing due to running out of memory and whatnot. We also have a good 10 or so that we got dead on arrival - we received all of them secondhand.

    Now take the iBooks that we are now using heavily to run Rosetta Stone software for Spanish. They're running Tiger. They're usually pretty good and rather transparent. The main exceptions are the fact that the AirPort frequently drops for a select few people and the fact that Software Update comes up frequently because we haven't had time to update all of them in the past few months.

    The problem, of course, is we're trying to have kids use computers on two completely different platforms. Programs work differently, things in general work differently. Kids are always confused because they're used to one and not the other, I personally find it difficult to get work done when I'm supposed to be in the lab working because kids are constantly asking questions and I and the media specialist are frequently the only ones qualified to answer and she's up to her eyeballs in other tasks anyway.

    So, as you can imagine, kids don't exactly always enjoy the computing experience.
     
  18. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    Yep, works much better. Virtually all of my friends and family now own a Mac or want one for their next computer, and it's not because I've lectured them daily :)
     
  19. eric55lv Guest

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    Well even System 1.0 is more advanced than Vista
     
  20. Big-TDI-Guy macrumors 68030

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    I have no desire to convert the un-believers.

    I have accidentally converted a few before, though.

    They come over (mainly engineer types), mention a file they have that I should look at - and "oh, you have a Mac, well you can't Ru---" and by then, I'm on Parallels in XP.

    Seems to get them every time. :D
     
  21. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    I still enjoy the challenge at times. But usually, it is with someone who has a little bit of an open mind.

    Parallels is fantastic to stir some interest in possible switchers.

    And of course Bootcamp for the gamer types. But overall, Parallels has been the champ for me in creating interesting in the Mac platform. I usually do this with an iMac connected to an external 15 inch LCD screen. On the iMac is the Mac OS and on the external is Windows in full screen. They love it.
     
  22. Prof. macrumors 601

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    Professor says: "It is easier for people to deny things than it would be for them to accept it."
     

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