iPhone 5 or earlier Stuck to 9.3 iphone 5

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  1. murnau macrumors regular

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    Hi!

    I just bought a second hand iphone 5.
    It all works well.
    I restored my old iphone 5 (16 gb) to this new one (64 gb).
    iOS 9.3.5.

    I get iOS 9.3 on the new iphone not 9.3.5...
    I cant update it via itunes (it says it is up to date)... and in os update on the iphone itself it says I can update to 10.3.3.

    Is this normal or am I missing something?

    Thanx!
     
  2. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    You are probably using a computer that can run the maximum version of iTunes for it's hardware and OS.

    THAT, is not the same as running the latest version of iTunes.

    Either use the phone to upgrade (if you want to) or find a computer that can run the latest version of iTunes.

    I have iOS 10.3.1 on my iPhone 5.
     
  3. BugeyeSTI macrumors 68030

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    10.3.3 is the latest firmware for your phone so updating will install that. You'll lose the ability to go back to 9.3 if you update so you better be sure that's what you want to do.
     
  4. murnau thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hi, strange thing is that the 16gb should not be recognized by this mac pro 2009 since it is running the ios 9.3.5.
    But in fact it is.
    Do you still think it is related to the itunes version and mac os version which is Mountain Lion?
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    10.3.3 is the latest firmware for your phone so updating will install that. You'll lose the ability to go back to 9.3 if you update so you better be sure that's what you want to do.

    That is what I wanted to know - but are you sure I cannot update to 9.3.5??
    I do not want to go to 10.3.3, I know that I cant go back to ios 9, of course
     
  5. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    You cannot update to 9.3.5. Apple is not signing 9.3.5 and if Apple does not digitally sign a firmware version you cannot upgrade or downgrade to it.

    And before you ask, no, there is no way to fake the digital signing.
     
  6. BugeyeSTI macrumors 68030

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    Unfortunately as @eyoungren states, 9.3.5 isn't being signed for your phone anymore so 10.3.3 is what will be installed. Not sure if your interested in jailbreaking your phone but, you may have more options going that route. Eyoungren has jailbreak experience and may be able to advise you on jailbreak options for your phone
     
  7. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Not much advice here to give though.

    My experience with jailbreaks past 9.1 is minimal and I have yet to get around to jailbreaking my own iPhone 5. So, I'm not aware of any specific processes that may or may not allow for what OP wants to do.

    Generally though, it may be possible. Reddit would be a better place to check if that route is taken.
     
  8. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    If the reason you don't want to install iOS 10 is because of speed, it's actually not that bad.
     
  9. murnau thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thank you all.
    No, I would not like to jailbreak it. I just was surprised not to be able to "complete" the 9.3 ios version with the 9.3.5.
    Even if they dont sign the older versions, one should be able at least go to the last possible version of the firmware and software he is running currently... which in this case is 9.3.5.
    Even if I am restoring from a 9.3.5 version of an iphone 5 to my new iphone 5, I cant update to 9.5.3?
     
  10. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    No, you can't update to 9.3.5. Once Apple stops signing a release, that's it. We do what Apple tells us and like it!
     
  11. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Your question indicates a lack of familiarity with what iOS backups are.

    All they contain is user data. The apps installed, your text messages, your pictures, etc.

    iOS itself is stored on a separate partion on the iDevice. Thus, a restore from backup only restores your data. Nothing more.
     
  12. murnau thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, it lacks :)
    Thanx for all the info!
    I am mac user and know well the mac OS but I am not very familiar with iOS.

    One thing though - Apple stopped signing also iOS 10, because iOS 11 got out. Why would they sign then 10.3.3 for this device? We should stay with 9.3.x then if we want to be logical, no?
     
  13. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Apple continues to sign 10.3.3 for the iPhone 5 because the iPhone 5 is not supported on iOS 11. If you had a 5s, your only option would be iOS 11.

    If you had an iPhone 4s then you could go to 9.3.5 because the 4s does not support iOS 10 so Apple continues to sign it for the 4s. Same with iOS 7.1.2 for the iPhone 4 and 6.1.6 for the iPhone 3GS.

    It doesn't really matter what we think is logical or not. Apple determines what they sign and do not sign and even if we wish it very badly that won't change Apple's decisions.
     
  14. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    Apple generally only signs the newest firmware the device supports. Apple states that you should be on the latest OS for stability and security reasons.
     
  15. M-A-R-V Suspended

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    I have a iPhone 5 32 GB jailbroken on 10.3.3 and dualbooted to iOS 6.1.4 the thing runs like a charm.

    OP you can upgrade your iPhone to 10.3.3 and then jailbreak and dualboot to any version of iOS you want!
     

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