I am not being agressive towards the seller, i am showing my displeasure at you for the persiant defence of the seller whilst your in full knowledge that there are glaring problems with the listing and yet you still persist in his defence.
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I did. I mentioned the concept of white lies, how what he did is socially acceptable and it’s in the realms of layman’s advertising.
You can be angry about that - nobody is taking away your right to pissed - but unless he did something illegal, your frustration is misdirected.
No, I'm not in full knowledge that there are glaring problems with the listing. All I'm in knowledge of is that the listing could be slightly better. I'm not denying that it could.
What I'm taking exception to is your aggressive way of trying to convince me that a minor lack of clarity (which is no problem for anyone who knows how the internet works and who is at least a bit smarter than a potato) is a glaring problem.
Anyway, what's it to you if you convince me? If you really think the listing is fraudulent and want to help his victims, then report it to eBay. Convincing me doesn't mean anything and doesn't help anyone.
What I'm taking exception to is your aggressive way of trying to convince me that a minor lack of clarity (which is no problem for anyone who knows how the internet works and who is at least a bit smarter than a potato) is a glaring problem.
Anyway, what's it to you if you convince me? If you really think the listing is fraudulent and want to help his victims, then report it to eBay. Convincing me doesn't mean anything and doesn't help anyone.
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I don't care how much better USB C is, for a phone I only care about one thing and that is to charge it. Lightning makes a secure connection and the cable doesn't fall out. I've had a few USB C phones and the cable keeps falling out. Unless they can make USB C lock in place the way lightning locks in place, then Apple should just keep the lightning connector.
I don’t care what Apple does, personally, since I always bring one cable per device to charge all of them simultaneously. Whether it’s Lightning or USB-C, it doesn’t matter. I’m just explaining why they do what they do. You don’t have to agree with it.
As for it being self-made, Apple had reached the end of the 30-pin connector. They had already repurposed many of the FireWire pins to do other things and were out of options. The 30-pin also was far too large for theit size goals. USB-C was still on the drawing board where Apple was one of the founders. Lots of people don’t know that Apple contributed 17 engineers to the creation of USB-C. You ever wonder why Apple was one of the first companies to adopt USB-C for its laptops? Because they helped create the standard. It simply wasn’t ready at the time they really needed it on the iPhone and wouldn’t be for another 2-4 years. In their eyes, they saw no choice but to go Lightning.
I applaud you for our knowledge but your entire argument hinges on the statement:
“It simply wasn’t ready at the time they really needed it on the iPhone and wouldn’t be for another 2-4 years. In their eyes, they saw no choice but to go Lightning.”
Could you please clarify if this is your opinion or internal knowledge you’ve acquired working at Apple?
The latter would seem strange, since this would mean a breach of a nda.
Sentences in the style of “I’m just explaining why they do what they do.” or
“You ever wonder why Apple was one of the first companies”
Are not helpful for the debate.
And to return back to the subject now, just by inference you can realize the strangeness and inconsistency of Apple’s decision to withhold the open standard on one product family (iPhone) but then introduce it on another (iPad,Macs). This is also called common sense and (unless I’m missing something) doesn’t require historical knowledge about the development of any standard.
Why, would you speculate, did Apple not turn Lightning into an open standard (if it wasn’t for profit after all)? What’s your stance on that? Because from a user’s perspective, it locks you into their system. Which, from my understanding, is undisputed and a well documented practice.
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A quick Google search gives you the answer. The USB-C standard was finalized in August 2014. The first iPhone with Lightning was introduced on September 12, 2012. You also know that from the time of a standard being finalized to a product actually existing is typically at least a couple years. USB-C was ready about the time Apple introduced it in their 2016 remake of their MacBook Pro with butterfly keyboard. When the standard wasn’t finalized before Apple really needed to ditch the 30-pin dock connector, that made it a no-brainer for Apple to go Lightning.
People who comment "This is a waste of time and university resources" are making me thank god that there are people smarter than them, The courage, effort, knowledge and time he took to show off his incredible hardware modification. Just for that trash talk on a 22-year old site? Woah..
Also, the reason he tells us not to update, open or use the iPhone as a daily driver is due to stability, iOS is not fully programmed to work on a USB-C iPhone, Making it unstable, now that iPadOS is a thing, it's likely the code to stabilize it was only within iPads.
So, using this as a daily driver would casue frustrations, crashes, frequent glitches and problems with using the port.
I am not sure with opening the phone, if he meant opening it as in prying the phone open, then yes. Changing hardware would cause big big problems, Maybe using this as your daily driver would result in a drop that requires the phone to be open for repair, that's bad.
Also, the reason he tells us not to update, open or use the iPhone as a daily driver is due to stability, iOS is not fully programmed to work on a USB-C iPhone, Making it unstable, now that iPadOS is a thing, it's likely the code to stabilize it was only within iPads.
So, using this as a daily driver would casue frustrations, crashes, frequent glitches and problems with using the port.
I am not sure with opening the phone, if he meant opening it as in prying the phone open, then yes. Changing hardware would cause big big problems, Maybe using this as your daily driver would result in a drop that requires the phone to be open for repair, that's bad.
I'm only here to note that after a couple of years, my perfectly working iPhone has one problem, the lightning connector easily falls out now and the only I can charge it by cable (magnetic charging is too damn slow) by propping up the phone and keep pressure on the cable otherwise no charge. The lightning connector is just junk from my experience. USB C holds up far better.
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It, very objectively, is not the best.
The reason they do it is the commissions they get by licensing it out as a proprietary port to any company on earth that creates iPhone accessories, headphones, car mounts, docks, etc.
Usb-c also enables devices such as android phones, iPad pros, laptops and others to transfer data at usb 3 (5, 10, and 20 Gbps) speeds or thunderbolt (40 Gbps) speeds. Lightning is curiously stuck in the past at USB2 0.48 Gbps speeds. If apple sticks with lightning (which I hope it just adopts usb-c like on the iPads) then at least increase the transfer speed to modernize the iPhone’s I/o.
lightning ports on some devices supports 5 Gbps. The problem is that lightning cables universally are charging cables - just like USB-c, these are limited to 480 Mbps. So you only would see this used with limited accessories.
Rather than come out with high speed cables (“greased lightning”? with black anodized lightning connectors?), they started moving devices to USB-C
Source please? I’m speaking about iPhone lightning speeds not iPads that had lightning. Which device,cable, multiport adapter enables the iPhone to transfer faster than USB2 speeds? My iPhone connects to my Mac at only 480 Mbps using Apple’s own cables.
Well I'm an Android user that has recently went back to Apple, that said my teenage kids each have 3-4 iPhones each and none have any issues. My Son has an SE version 1 (5s body) that he uses as his daily driver even though he has a 7 and 13 mini. My First phone with USB C was my the A5 and the USB C cable would fall out after a month of use. After the A5 I went to the Essential phone which had the best connector and then the S10E which started to have issues after a year.
I also have the original iPad mini which is almost 10 years old and the lightning port is still tight
oh yes force every company to use USB-C. Lightning is definitely more durable than the damn fragile usb-c. also its totally enough for its purpose.
The iPhone has a ProRes video mode with embarrassingly sluggish transfer speeds to support it. Any videographer/filmmaker worth their salt would be ripping their hair our in frustration. It is literally not "totally enough for its purpose."
It charges slow and it has significantly slower data transfer speeds. I don't even agree about Lightning being more durable, but even if it was, I would still prefer using USB-C since it is objectively more functional.
You do know that Apple is one of the biggest contributors to the development of the entire USB-C technology, right? It's not some nefarious Google/Android creation to enslave the masses.
USB-C would have literally not existed without Apple.