student use that i havent seen discussed

Discussion in 'iPad' started by bigwayne3000, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. bigwayne3000 macrumors regular

    Nov 23, 2008
    well i was thinking about getting a 3G enabled one to use for school. i use my laptop for taking notes etc now and i think an iPad can be a great alternative. im waiting until june to see what apple has to say about VZW either iphone/ipad related before getting one. i see many topics on here discussing student use but i dont think this has been talked about before. some complain that the keyboard might not be condusive to typing at a rate fast enough to keep up with notes etc but i forgot that the ipad has a microphone in it which led me to thinking that in theory if you wanted too, you could use this to record professors during lectures etc. i dont have an iphone so idk if there is a time limit on recordings such as voice notes so i could be terribly wrong on this.

    my next point was the new textbook stuff that was announced a few days ago. i was on cnet where they discussed this topic and they said scrollmotion was making it so that users using the textbook ereader could easily highlight different things (and in color to categorize things) which i think is very beneficial. also if you need a definition, you can easily search for what you need instead of skimming a hundred pages in an attempt to find it. i think when the this comes out and the reviews are in we will be fairly suprised at how well this can and will work for students.
  2. lordhamster macrumors 6502a

    Jan 23, 2008
    The textbook thing is very exciting. Back when I was in school I'd have loved an iPad over schlepping 50 pounds of textbooks all over campus. In my current profession, I'd love to have "Professional JSP 3rd edition" and such always at my fingertips with the ability to take margin notes and highlight stuff.
  3. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    Is your shift key broken or something?

    The problem with the mic is that it wouldn't work well in large classroom or if you're sitting all the way in the back of the room. You might as well just buy a remote mic and put it in front of the professor.

    There's going to be a lot of applications related to notetaking with stylus, PDF/txt apps with support for annotations, bookmarks, highlighter and so on. The power and the size of the iPad will support those type of applications pretty well. The app store is the killer app again for iPad.
  4. HappyDude20 macrumors 68020


    Jul 13, 2008
    Los Angeles, Ca


    Thank you, lmao. Someone had to say it.
  5. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030


    Jul 7, 2009
    I've tried twice to read his post and couldn't finish it, too much text without capitals... made my eyes go gaga.
  6. yodaxl7 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 25, 2010
    In an ideal situation, the school would have to be a wifi,3g or 4g heaven for a classroom full of students using the ipad. It would be great that a professor creat a presentation using keynote and email a copy to his/her students.
    The student then follow the lecture along with the slides. We would save a tree in the process. Plus, students having books on the ipad would save more trees. Yeh!
  7. NeuralControl macrumors 6502a

    Dec 3, 2009
    If the microphone on the iPad is anything like the iPhone, it is pretty poor. Unless you are in a small room and sitting directly in front of the lecturer, you will not get good quality results with Voice Memos. I have tried to record lectures with my iPhone but the quality is always terrible. My lecture halls are large and contain up to 400 students. Most professors use microphones, and still, the iPhone barely picks up their voices.
  8. bigwayne3000 thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 23, 2008
    Well I go to a small school and we have tops 20 students in classes. Most I ever had was 25-30 I think. Sorry bout the caps, I dont usually use them on here. I"ll try to break my habit. Thanks for the input guys.
  9. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    I bet the iPad comes with some sort of punctuation app.
  10. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

    Mar 15, 2008
    What the iPad needs is an app that will receive any audio the professor records on HIS/HER iPad or macbook as he lectures. You have a code to log in with each class/professor. Everyone in the class has to have the app on either their iPhone, Touch, or iPad. At the beginning or end of class the professor can also send his/her written notes to everyone logged in for the class. Slides/support photos can also be broadcast to all the students and appear on their devices.

    Most importantly, a student could log in for the class and receive all the content even if they were home sick with the flu.

    The professor gets a report of how many/who logged in during class, and can choose to make the content available live as it is presented, only during class, or anytime after it is presented in class.

    Just a thought. Disclaimer: I am a college professor.
  11. t0mat0 macrumors 603


    Aug 29, 2006
    Well the iPhone already does auto-capitalise, and auto correct - so it should make things a little more comprehensible...

    There are already iPhone apps, and a native app for such recording. You can attach v. likely a 3rd party microphone if you want also. Griffin does one of the apps, but there are many more.
  12. jpk32092 macrumors 6502

    May 22, 2008
  13. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    Shift Key != Caps lock :p
  14. yodaxl7 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 25, 2010
    The professor would have his/her mic adapter to his/her Ipad. The professor then can send a copy of the lecture to her/his students. Problem solved.
  15. Nebrie macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2002
  16. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    Off-topic but this is not the right way to do this since you're locking the system down to Macs and not to mention there's no need for students in the class to get audio/video live. They should be paying attention unless in large class rooms in which case, there should be speakers and extra large projector showing the professor at different angles as well as his powerpoint next to him.

    Professors should be the one wearing a microphone as well as a video recorder (also act as projectors in large class rooms) in the room. Support files like the PPT/PDFs should be available just one day before class. The final audio/video files should be available with closed captioning support for all students in the class in open formats after class. (Additional notes at the bottom.)

    The courseware should already have student authentication system using the college's ID system and it should already have timers for making content available at specific time set by the professors. Professors has to make the content available the day before class to give the students a chance to download it and load it before class and to give extra time to resolve any issues like wrong files or corrupted files. Suppose if the class room have no Internet?

    Additional Notes:
    Now about the closed captioning, I'm hard of hearing myself, so I have a lot of experiences in college about different methods of presenting content to people with disabilities but as it turn out, people actually wants the same accessibility as the deaf students commonly get (due to federal funding or college polices, those content to the deaf are not available to the hearing students).

    The most popular favored methods of the deaf in the classrooms are real-time captioning done by a professional captioner with a note taker in the room for any info on the board that can't be entered via the computer. The deaf students get a tablet or a notebook (depending on the budget) which receive the captions from the captioner in real time. In some cases the captioner can also receive messages from the student to ask questions but usually there's already an interpreter in class room for those purposes but in the future the interpreter might not be in those rooms as they would be re-assigned to classes without real time captioning. The captions are than converted into a printout for the students to download and those printout are very sought by all students, not just deaf students. Those captions actually become very valuable notes/references which can be annotated by the students for studying and just an easy method to remember everything that happened in all class sessions. This is the method that I love the most and the reason i bring this up, is that those captions can be converted into closed captions for the video recording of the classes and the text is just much more accurate and understandable than any audio recording since not all professors can be understood well (indian professors are the worst rated professors by the deaf students since many interpreters have issues understanding them) but so far the captioning was working since professors usually get a copy as well and can correct it for students.
  17. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

    Mar 15, 2008
    In my college department there are small lecture courses, large room lectures, studios, seminars, critiques, labs, and several variations in between. Each course is going to have to find the best way to take advantage of new technology, and the point I was trying to make was that the iPad could be used. I gave one example. Give the challenge to 20 professors and you may get 20 strategies for how best to employ the device. You can do this with Windows notebooks/netbooks and macbooks too. The iPad brings a new form factor to the plate. It's simpler portability may mean the student will bring it to class.

    The biggest stumbling block will be in getting the professors to change how they teach the class to accomodate the technology. Some will go eagerly. Some will do it if they (think they) must. Some will refuse.

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