No idea why it would be a downgrade. Everyone should be on Tahoe. I upgraded immediately at Tahoe and our work also did a force migration. So no biggie.
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Studio Display 2022 vs. Studio Display 2026 Buyer's Guide
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Like most ux/ui changes that one dislikes , you’ll be annoyed for a couple weeks and then eventually forget it was ever different
Are you never going to update? Or ever buy a new Mac again?
I will update to 27 or 28, if they are "snow leapord" style releases. Until then I'll be on 15.7.X for as long as I can.
I don't need a new mac, I have a neo for travel/meetings (the worst part of the neo is tahoe) and a 16" M3 pro for heavy work that has yet to feel slow and runs fine.
cicalinarrot
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Not what I said at all!
People are much more likely to play games on a laptop than on a desktop... if they chose this display for it.
I see this almost exclusively in working environments.
You can have a better display than this for your games at a fraction of the price. You don't need any of the features this has: the videocall-oriented camers and microphones array, the sober and refined design, the resolution, the color accuracy. You want lower resolution and high refresh rate.
On the other hand, I can see someone who's into high-pace but still farily causal gaming, like some e-sports, spending a little more for a mac with higher refresh rate.
No one wants lower resolution, there just did not used to be 5k panels with refresh rates higher than 60hz.
Apple has decided to “update” their less expensive monitor by using more or less the same old 5k 27” panel they have been using for more then a decade (2014 iMac) and adding some new camera processing software.
The profit margin on these is probably incredible.
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cicalinarrot
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What probably nobody wants is a 5K display for gaming.
4K is the default ultra-high resolution, considered overkill by some, especially those who'd rather use that graphics power for higher frame rate.
You talk about this as if the panel were the only relevant component.
Even just hardware and software engineering this stuff and starting a production line is pretty expensive. All very high-end engineering, materials and machining. Those costs will be shared among a pretty little number of units sold.
Then theres' basically the hardware of a Macbook Neo with more stuff for high-quality conference calls.
I don't know how much they make out of these but I don't think it's a lot once you factor in everything.
Usually, making stuff for professionals means you'll share costs among less customers as I said, but it also means those customers aren't spending their own money, but money from their business to buy assets.
This is something I see with most pro-oriented products, people will always look at prices and think they're absurd. Usually it's just these two components (low demand but richer customers) that make the value-proposition worse than mainstream consumer products can offer. It's pretty normal, scaling sales justifies smaller margins of profit.
this is a low volume item for apple, as you've acknowledged, so by your logic would require higher profit margin
cicalinarrot
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Not sure how that's connected to the whole conversation that started about Macs. Point was, 5K isn't for gaming.
The 2022 was, and not having a whole new production line for an incremental upgrade is probably the reason why they kept most things how they were.
I'm really losing track of this conversation, it just feels like you're trying to counter any single line I said without any correlation to why I said it. Bye.
you can use metalFX upscaling in macOS to play games in 5k. with upscaling 5k absolutely is for gaming. you must not be paying attention to all the new 5k high refresh monitors coming out. they are mostly gaming monitors
it doesn't matter why you've said something, I'm just pointing out when it incorrect or arguing against yourself
Thats not a reason to lower the price. What they will try to do is maximise the revenue from the existing production line.
Lower prices -> less profit per sold item but more monitors sold -> production line can’t make enough -> need another one
All while not making more profit…
I’m not saying I’m happy with the price, just that they know how to maximise profits. To understand their motivations you have to look at the decisions from their point of view rather then yours.
I'm not expecting them to lower the price
I am precisely looking from the profit point of view
my whole point was a counter to:
Not possible. Even Benq doesn’t. But yes, I wish Apple would release a more affordable monitor, like the one on the iMac 24’’
vi2867
macrumors 6502a
I been wanting the basic Apple Studio Display. The price has been holding me back. I recently tried the new BenQ MA270s. It is a great monitor. I connected all my peripherals to the monitor. When it went to sleep all the peripherals would not work. I needed to reconnect them all. That's where Apple gets you. Those issues probably do not happen on the Apple Studio Display. Now, is it worth spending an additional $600 for that convenience.
vi2867
macrumors 6502a
I have seen those Asus Monitors on Amazon, and they have a note on the page. This monitor has been returned frequently. Once I see that on amazon, I stay away from purchasing that.