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Curious if anyone would know how the SD screen will compare to my M1 Pro MiniLED screen? Will one be more accurate than the other?
 
We will need to wait for the reviews, but with the specs sheet we can already make the following assumptions:
- Studio Display will have a similar pixel density to the Retina XDR screen
- SD will have a lower contrast ratio and refresh rate than RXDR
- SD will not properly support HDR content as opposed to the Retina XDR screen
- SD will have the same 600 nits max brightness for everything non-HDR
- SD will support Center Stage, while the latest MBP doesn’t
- SD comes with a optional nanotextured panel, which could mean a better anti glare coating than the latest MBP screen

Real world reviews will help to get more specific comparisons, but those statements should stand up
 
Curious if anyone would know how the SD screen will compare to my M1 Pro MiniLED screen? Will one be more accurate than the other?

M1 Pro? Are you referring to the Macbook Pro? If so, which one, the 14 or 16?

The Studio Display is warmed over old tech at a premium price, and it won't touch the MiniLED screens in the Macbook Pros in most areas. What bothers me most about it is you can literally go to Dell right now and get a new high refresh rate QD-OLED ultrawide monitor that would blow this out of the water in most areas (not PPI) for $300 less.

And yet I still want one because I've always wanted an Apple monitor. ?
 
M1 Pro? Are you referring to the Macbook Pro? If so, which one, the 14 or 16?

The Studio Display is warmed over old tech at a premium price, and it won't touch the MiniLED screens in the Macbook Pros in most areas. What bothers me most about it is you can literally go to Dell right now and get a new high refresh rate QD-OLED ultrawide monitor that would blow this out of the water in most areas (not PPI) for $300 less.

And yet I still want one because I've always wanted an Apple monitor. ?
Yeah. I think the plan for this display was Mini-LED and they had some sort of production issue. But they kept the price they would have sold the Mini-LED version at.

Smartest thing is to skip this one and wait for the refresh with Mini-LED. There will be no comparison for contrast ratio, and I bet they bring high refresh rate as well.

This really is "warmed over old tech". And at an extremely high price.

If anyone is expecting this to be the kind of stunning display the new MacBook Pros have; you will be incredibly disapointed.
 
M1 Pro? Are you referring to the Macbook Pro? If so, which one, the 14 or 16?

The Studio Display is warmed over old tech at a premium price, and it won't touch the MiniLED screens in the Macbook Pros in most areas. What bothers me most about it is you can literally go to Dell right now and get a new high refresh rate QD-OLED ultrawide monitor that would blow this out of the water in most areas (not PPI) for $300 less.

And yet I still want one because I've always wanted an Apple monitor. ?
16 M1 Pro — love the screen, but have been wanting to complement with a modern Apple monitor. I have an old 24”, but seems a bit fuzzy. The Studio Display with height adjustment would be perfect.
 
16 M1 Pro — love the screen, but have been wanting to complement with a modern Apple monitor. I have an old 24”, but seems a bit fuzzy. The Studio Display with height adjustment would be perfect.
If all you’re looking for is Retina sharpness and color accuracy, you’re good to go. The monitor is amazing. Just don’t expect the contrast or HDR support that the MiniLED display has. In normal usage in a bright office you won’t notice much of a difference.

If you’re wondering why we keep harping on about HDR… then I’m sorry to do this to you but you need to see this. After you do, you’ll never look at a regular monitor the same way. Take your computer to a dark room and play this YT video. Make sure the brightness is turned all the way up. Then search for other HDR videos. That’s what makes this screen so special.

 
Well but if you are coding or writing most of the time, you will not benefit much from miniLED and HDR. I am using a MacBook Pro 16 Max for coding and I don't watch movies on it. I don't care about HDR so I only get 500nits of brightness for my usage.
The only interesting thing which I would be missing is 120hz!
 
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Well but if you are coding or writing most of the time, you will not benefit much from miniLED and HDR. I am using a MacBook Pro 16 Max for coding and I don't watch movies on it. I don't care about HDR so I only get 500nits of brightness for my usage.
The only interesting thing which I would be missing is 120hz!
If you code in “dark mode”, as I do, those insane blacks are instantly noticeable. I have used regular retina displays for years and never really understood the point of “HDR” until I started using my 14” pro. It is the contrast ratio that really blows my mind.

There is no way I would spend $1600 (or more with stand) on a monitor with display tech from 7 years ago. Anyone who does is likely to be disappointed when they update it to mini-LED in 18 months or so. I’m absolutely certain the only reason this didn’t ship with a better display was some kind of production or component shortage issue.
 
I'm getting two of these displays from work. But most of my work is not in a dark room, and is spent in vectorworks and photoshop. For me, these displays are amazing. All I've really wanted for years from apple is a 5K external. Sure I wish they were better, but lets be real, if this was mini led, this thing would cost 2500 to 3k. I love that it has True Tone. and hopefully, it just works, (plug in, remembers orientation and settings every time).
 
I'm getting two of these displays from work. But most of my work is not in a dark room, and is spent in vectorworks and photoshop. For me, these displays are amazing. All I've really wanted for years from apple is a 5K external. Sure I wish they were better, but lets be real, if this was mini led, this thing would cost 2500 to 3k. I love that it has True Tone. and hopefully, it just works, (plug in, remembers orientation and settings every time).
Very good points. In your environment it should be great. And you are probably right that the mini-LED version of this will be $2500. Sounds like it's coming in a few months.

27-Inch 'Studio Display Pro' With Mini-LED and ProMotion Could Launch in June

It just feels a bit weird that Apple is selling this $800 panel in a $2000 product (with adjustable stand) but I totally get for a lot of people the design, speakers, camera, etc. will make it worth it. And a big chunk of it is just 100% Apple compatibility vs. third party monitors which can have glitches (nothing worse than glitchy monitors!).

Also I'm the kind of person that has a lot of hardware in my lab I occasionally connect to my primary display (PS5, PC components for testing (linux, etc)). I have been a bit annoyed by these Apple displays which just don't work at all well with anything that isn't Apple thunderbolt. I want my monitor to have industry standard ports so it can work with anything I throw at it for the next 10 years. Would it really be that hard to include an HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort on the back of these high end displays? I'd pay $200 extra for that feature for sure!

But I guess this is just Apple being Apple; and I love what they do 90% of the time.

I'm just not the intended customer for this product and I shouldn't complain :cool:
 
Very good points. In your environment it should be great. And you are probably right that the mini-LED version of this will be $2500. Sounds like it's coming in a few months.

27-Inch 'Studio Display Pro' With Mini-LED and ProMotion Could Launch in June

It just feels a bit weird that Apple is selling this $800 panel in a $2000 product (with adjustable stand) but I totally get for a lot of people the design, speakers, camera, etc. will make it worth it. And a big chunk of it is just 100% Apple compatibility vs. third party monitors which can have glitches (nothing worse than glitchy monitors!).

Also I'm the kind of person that has a lot of hardware in my lab I occasionally connect to my primary display (PS5, PC components for testing (linux, etc)). I have been a bit annoyed by these Apple displays which just don't work at all well with anything that isn't Apple thunderbolt. I want my monitor to have industry standard ports so it can work with anything I throw at it for the next 10 years. Would it really be that hard to include an HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort on the back of these high end displays? I'd pay $200 extra for that feature for sure!

But I guess this is just Apple being Apple; and I love what they do 90% of the time.

I'm just not the intended customer for this product and I shouldn't complain :cool:
okay but you do have a super good point. I wish I could connect my Series X or Switch to it. but they are work displays for me after all.
 
okay but you do have a super good point. I wish I could connect my Series X or Switch to it. but they are work displays for me after all.
If I were on the Apple engineering team I would put the HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort ports on that display and also set up really amazing picture-in-picture and multi-display options (easy with that onboard A13). There are lots of creative professionals who connect devices like PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch, etc as part of their work. Or even just being able to connect a direct feed from a tethered camera. With that on-board chip you could even have really high quality built in video encoding off those ports for use in streaming or general capture situations.
 
M1 Pro? Are you referring to the Macbook Pro? If so, which one, the 14 or 16?

The Studio Display is warmed over old tech at a premium price, and it won't touch the MiniLED screens in the Macbook Pros in most areas. What bothers me most about it is you can literally go to Dell right now and get a new high refresh rate QD-OLED ultrawide monitor that would blow this out of the water in most areas (not PPI) for $300 less.

And yet I still want one because I've always wanted an Apple monitor. ?

As you alluded to, the PPI is quite different between the Studio Display (218 PPI) and that Dell (109 PPI). The Studio Display is literally twice as sharp as the Dell... retina vs non-retina.
 
If all you’re looking for is Retina sharpness and color accuracy, you’re good to go. The monitor is amazing. Just don’t expect the contrast or HDR support that the MiniLED display has. In normal usage in a bright office you won’t notice much of a difference.

If you’re wondering why we keep harping on about HDR… then I’m sorry to do this to you but you need to see this. After you do, you’ll never look at a regular monitor the same way. Take your computer to a dark room and play this YT video. Make sure the brightness is turned all the way up. Then search for other HDR videos. That’s what makes this screen so special.

I was never interested in watching a film on my laptop, but I decided to try it out with my 16 Pro. The film was Dunkirk, and I was absolutely blown away by the screen and sound system.

Given the actual work I do, the Studio Display would work perfectly. A MiniLED display would end up costing more, so I’m glad that a less expensive version is being offered first.
 
If I were on the Apple engineering team I would put the HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort ports on that display and also set up really amazing picture-in-picture and multi-display options (easy with that onboard A13). There are lots of creative professionals who connect devices like PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch, etc as part of their work. Or even just being able to connect a direct feed from a tethered camera. With that on-board chip you could even have really high quality built in video encoding off those ports for use in streaming or general capture situations.
Interesting that the chip is more powerful than the one in the newest Apple TV.
 
I'm getting two of these displays from work. But most of my work is not in a dark room, and is spent in vectorworks and photoshop. For me, these displays are amazing. All I've really wanted for years from apple is a 5K external. Sure I wish they were better, but lets be real, if this was mini led, this thing would cost 2500 to 3k. I love that it has True Tone. and hopefully, it just works, (plug in, remembers orientation and settings every time).
I do similar work and I agree that a MiniLED version would presumably cost more but not really benefit the work I do.

Did you get the adjustable version? This is an absolute for me.
 
If you code in “dark mode”, as I do, those insane blacks are instantly noticeable. I have used regular retina displays for years and never really understood the point of “HDR” until I started using my 14” pro. It is the contrast ratio that really blows my mind.

There is no way I would spend $1600 (or more with stand) on a monitor with display tech from 7 years ago. Anyone who does is likely to be disappointed when they update it to mini-LED in 18 months or so. I’m absolutely certain the only reason this didn’t ship with a better display was some kind of production or component shortage issue.
I get the use cases for MiniLED, but I don’t think there is any reason to be down on the display tech being used in the Studio Display. It’s a beautiful display, and if there was going to be a MiniLED version, this would have been an option along with the one we have now (at a higher price).

The only knock I have is the marketing image they use on the screen. Out of all of the images they could have used, why on earth would they choose a silly text effect that nobody in their right mind would use today? Am I missing something?
 
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As you alluded to, the PPI is quite different between the Studio Display (218 PPI) and that Dell (109 PPI). The Studio Display is literally twice as sharp as the Dell... retina vs non-retina.

Right. It's primarily a gaming monitor, and that resolution is fantastic for that purpose.
 
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