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detects better than an FDA approved huh ? so will we care about that other 3% ? probably not.
 
Yea, I'm fine. I just know that almost all athletes with excellent cardiovascular strength tend to have resting rates in the 40s or 50s. Michael Phelps, for example, has a resting rate of 38bpm.
Just remember that while they constantly train hard their lungs are changing over time to increase the amount of oxygen into the bloodstream. That helps A LOT. They can have a lower heart rate to get the same amount of oxygen to their lungs.

I live at high altitude (6500ft/1981m) and my resting heart rate drops a full 15 bpm, into the lower 60s, when I’m just 3000ft/914m lower. It took a full year at altitude for my lungs to absorb more oxygen to where I wasn’t winded by doing physical activity. These guys train so hard constantly that they do it far quicker and can achieve incredibly low bpm.
 



The heart rate monitors built into the Apple Watch and other wearable devices can detect abnormal heart rhythms with 97 percent accuracy, according to a new study conducted by the team behind the Cardiogram app for Apple Watch in conjunction with researchers at the University of California, San Francisco.

More than 139 million heart rate and step count measurements were collected from 9,750 users of the Cardiogram app who also enrolled in the UC San Francisco Health eHeart Study, with the data used to train DeepHeart, Cardiogram's deep neural network.

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Once trained, DeepHeart was able to read heart rate data collected by wearables, distinguishing between normal heart rhythm and atrial fibrillation with a 97 percent accuracy rate, both when testing UCSF patients with known heart issues and Cardiogram participants.

At a 97 percent accuracy rate, Cardiogram's study suggests the Apple Watch alone does a better job of detecting abnormal heart rhythms than FDA-approved accessory KardiaBand. From Cardiogram co-founder Johnson Hsieh:published in JAMA Cardiology this morning, the study confirms the results from a similar preliminary study done in May of 2017. According to Cardiogram, today's study marks the first peer-reviewed study in a medical journal that demonstrates popular wearables from companies like Apple, Garmin, Polar, LG, and others can detect a major health condition.

Atrial fibrillation, or an abnormal heart rhythm, is a condition that can be indicative of major health problems and it can lead to heart failure and stroke. Atrial fibrillation often goes undiagnosed, which is where the Apple Watch and other wearables can help. The Apple Watch won't replace a traditional EKG, but it can alert people to a problem much earlier than it might otherwise be detected. From the study's conclusion:In addition to studies on the Apple Watch's ability to detect atrial fibrillation, Cardiogram and UCSF have also been working to determine if the Apple Watch heart rate monitor can also detect conditions like hypertension, sleep apnea, and early signs of diabetes. Preliminary studies have suggested all of these conditions could be spotted in data collected by Apple Watch and other common wearable devices.

Apple has been working with researchers at Stanford on its own study to determine whether the heart rate sensor in the Apple Watch can be used to detect abnormal heart rhythms and common heart conditions. While in the study, if an abnormal heart rhythm is detected, participants will be contacted by researchers and asked to wear an ePath monitor to test heart health.

Apple Watch owners can sign up to participate in the Apple Heart Study by downloading and installing the Apple Heart Study app. Those who want to join Cardiogram's studies can install the Cardiogram app and sign up to join the mRhythm study.

Article Link: Study Confirms Apple Watch Can Detect Abnormal Heart Rhythm With 97% Accuracy


What iPhones is this????
 
Not super on topic, but I use the sleep watch app and have been impressed by the info it picked up on. My resting sleeping heart rate is 10% lower on days that I do cardio.

Honestly unsure what that means (I keep my watch on for my alarm and the app came highly recommended) but it's cool that it's putting some perspective to the data collected.
 
Part of the problem might have to do with something similar to your avatar. ;) Another part of the problem is my desk job with long hours and stress. A third part of the problem is I absolutely hate going to the gym.

If I meditate I can get it down into the 50s. But sitting here, at work, it's 68 right now.
I don’t drink, just like the logo ;)
 
PVC's was one of the scariest things that jumped at me one day. I thought it was a heart attack.

...

I've cut out smoking and down to 1 mug of coffee a day max. I have not had the PVC's return. But I never stop panicking everytime I "feel" my heart beat.

As someone with heart history (had open heart surgery to do a valve rework) PVCs came on a couple years later and scared the living crap out of me. I suffered with them for years. They're capricious things--highly frustrating at best, and downright terrifying at worst. It was only this past year that I learned a little more about them, and their relationship to something called the Vagus nerve. Here is a link to a blog post wherein a cardiologist explains. It's not a panacea, but reading this helped me a lot in being able to handle them psychologically. Although it seems like I am not as bad as a few of you here. I genuinely feel for you folks. Those things are crap.
 
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[doublepost=1521662575][/doublepost]Was part of the study for the last three weeks. Checked the app today to see how many Data Contributions had been made to date only to discover that my enrollment had disappeared (I checked over the previous weekend and all was well). Had to re-enroll. Apple Heart Study app seems pretty useless.

I’ve had 1,036 heart rhythm contributions during the 112 days I’ve been in the program. So far none of them have generated a recommendation for me to see my doctor.
 
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so how does this work, or does their system 'just detect' the symptoms in their research, and not actually alert the users? Ive got a family history for Afib, and have thought about it before and wondered if this would work. Sounds like it will. But does it need FDA approval before they can TELL the users with it something is amiss or is my cardogram just not set up right? (Im enrolled in the various heart surveys)

The Apple Heart Study App sends ‘Heart Rhythm Contributions’ to the study. Under some conditions they will send you a recommendation to see your doctor.
 
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I joined the study because why not? At least it'll give them baseline data, and afaik I don't have the issue. It's' nice to put this stuff to use.

I wish there were more studies to join; I'd donate my (lack of) activity data and heart rate info if I could.
 
I went out drinking with co-works one evening after work and my watch alerted me that my heart rate was over 120/125 or whatever it was. Was it because I was drinking or was it an error?

This happened to me for the first time last night and I kinda panicked. I was out eating dinner for a friends birthday and had a margarita and a corona and about 30 minutes after eating and drinking my watch alerted me. Kinda freaked me out a bit.
 
I went out drinking with co-works one evening after work and my watch alerted me that my heart rate was over 120/125 or whatever it was. Was it because I was drinking or was it an error?

It may have been an error.
My Apple Watch always reports wrong data. In the middle of a workout it sometimes goes from 50bpm to 150bpm within a minute, sometimes it reports values that may be right, sometimes it is clearly wrong.
It may be my unit, I don't use it for fitness so I don't really care and don't want to bother asking for a fix, but it is simply unreliable as an heart beat monitor.
Hope they improved the reading with series 3 and continue to improve it with future releases, if it was reliable it would be really great.
 
This is going to make some people lose it. Your heart can change rhythms anytime during the day and it means nothing.
People will be turned into raging hypochondriacs. Don't trust a watch to monitor heart health, trust you PCP or cardiologist.
 
I workout with a Garmin chest strap heart monitor and an Apple Watch. The two are rarely more than a few beats off from each other.

This is a really helpful input. I workout with a chest strap too. And one reason I keep holding off on Apple Watch or any other wearable is because I don't trust that the wrist based monitoring will be accurate for intense workouts.

What workouts do you do?
 
Apple Watch can also detect panic attacks with incredible accuracy, although, it thinks the person is exercising. It says things like “good job”, “keep it up”, not knowing that the person is suffering a panic attack and is not exercising at all.
 
Apple Watch can also detect panic attacks with incredible accuracy, although, it thinks the person is exercising. It says things like “good job”, “keep it up”, not knowing that the person is suffering a panic attack and is not exercising at all.

This is tragically hilarious. Sigh. Things like this remind us that technology is great, but it isn't 'there' yet. 'A' for effort, Apple. :rolleyes:
 
It may have been an error.
My Apple Watch always reports wrong data. In the middle of a workout it sometimes goes from 50bpm to 150bpm within a minute, sometimes it reports values that may be right, sometimes it is clearly wrong.
It may be my unit, I don't use it for fitness so I don't really care and don't want to bother asking for a fix, but it is simply unreliable as an heart beat monitor.
Hope they improved the reading with series 3 and continue to improve it with future releases, if it was reliable it would be really great.

That sounds like there's something wrong. I've had one or two times since getting my watch last fall where the reading was out of whack, but over the last couple of months I've compared my watch with the readings from the exercise equipment itself (treadmill, elliptical) dozens of times and the two are never off by more than 1 bpm, and even that much difference I'm guessing is due to specific sampling rates and rounding errors.
 
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This is a really helpful input. I workout with a chest strap too. And one reason I keep holding off on Apple Watch or any other wearable is because I don't trust that the wrist based monitoring will be accurate for intense workouts.

What workouts do you do?
Training for road cycling, mainly. I spend most of my time on a spin bike, on the bike trainer, or actually out on the road, when the stars align. I try and run occasionally but, without my bike computer in front of me, I have no way to compare, in real-time, the strap and Apple Watch.
 
Personally I don't find the Apple Watch heart rate sensor to be that accurate. When working out, it will regularly be off by a factor. To me, this means it's missing every other heartbeat. For example, my resting is ~70; when doing a cardio workout it will go up to 150 or so, then suddenly down to 75. Definitely not right, I am in the middle of cardio and feeling it, it's not 75.
Mine watch matches the heart rate displayed by cardio machines like ellipticals, ARC trainers, treadmills, etc, so if it's inaccurate, it the machines must be off by the same factor.
 
My point being....I haven’t had the issue since I deleted the third party app. Native Heart Rate app does not do this. Guess you’re not aware there is a native app. Must not be too familiar with the watch. Need more help?
In response to your reply: If you say so.

Right I've only had the watch for almost 3 years and have been closely monitoring my HR since then. I can assure you that I know at least as much (if not much, much more) as you do about the heart rate tracking features of the Apple Watch.

My point is just because you don't receive notifications of a high HR (from HeartWatch) doesn't mean you aren't having a high HR (it's like just sticking your head in the sand, because you don't want to know). HeartWatch doesn't actually take your HR, so much as grabs the HR data that your watch is already gathering. So it is literally impossible for HeartWatch to have been *causing* the high HR reading in some way. So yes there is a native "HeartRate" app, but that's irrelavent. Now perhaps (with the most generous interpretation), you are referring to the new WatchOS 3 feature that can also notify you if your HR is over 100. However, this feature only activates if you haven't moved in the past 5 minutes and if you have Series 1+ (no Series 0). So HeartWatch could certainly provide more high HR notifications if you HR is elevated when walking/going up stairs/etc. (and is the only way to get notifications for Series 0 owners).
 
Apple Watch can also detect panic attacks with incredible accuracy, although, it thinks the person is exercising. It says things like “good job”, “keep it up”, not knowing that the person is suffering a panic attack and is not exercising at all.

Source?
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66% of folks in the western world suffer from Panic Attacks (10% talk about it) --- I can only recommend normal folks to stay clear of this !

:oops:

https://www.sharecare.com/health/panic-disorder/what-rate-incidence-panic-disorder

The rate of incidence for panic disorder is approximately 18 percent in American adults

https://www.barendspsychology.com/interesting-panic-attacks-facts/

22.7% of people in the United States experience a panic attack once in their lives

Seems a far cry from 66%.
 
I find that it can’t detect my heart rate properly for the first 5 to 10 minutes of a workout. It usualy shows a grey number (I think that means it’s unsure) and/or jumps around. Eventually it gets it but I think it actually has to do with skin temperature. Before a workout, you’re generally cooler. I’ve also noticed it’s more accurate immediately if the room has been warmed (and therefore so am I) which seems to support my theory.

Anyone with knowledge on the subject able to corroborate this?
 
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