Stupid user assumptions

[eyoungren]

Every once in a great while I drop in to the PowerPC forum over at Apple. It's always great for a laugh because nine years after the Intel transition people still don't get it. And some don't even understand that a PowerPC Mac is not a Windows using Intel PC!

A couple of titles for threads I saw today…

i need boot camp for power book g4

howe to get into bios

And this one from a week or so ago…

how to install yoshmit on powerbook g4 17 inch by usb. if it is stuck on apple logo

Now, I don't purport to be better than any of these people and I've made plenty of dumbass mistakes in my life, but…gees, wake up!

 

[jbarley]

And some don't even understand that a Mac is not a PC!

Does a Mac not fit into this definition?

 

[eyoungren]

Does a Mac not fit into this definition?

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Yes, yes, it does. But the context I was using was meaning Intel PC.

I.e., yes a Mac is a PC, but it does not have BIOS.

P.S. I've corrected my initial post to reflect this.

 

[Gamer9430]

Yes, yes, it does. But the context I was using was meaning Intel PC.

I.e., yes a Mac is a PC, but it does not have BIOS.

P.S. I've corrected my initial post to reflect this.

Aren't macs technically Intel PCs . I think saying they aren't Wintel machines will clear it up.

 

[eyoungren]

Aren't macs technically Intel PCs . I think saying they aren't Wintel machines will clear it up.

Not PowerPC Macs, from which section the titles of these 'threads' were taken.

 

[Gamer9430]

Not PowerPC Macs, from which section the titles of these 'threads' were taken.

Oh I though you were referring to all macs, lol. Then in that case your statement is correct.

 

[eyoungren]

Oh I though you were referring to all macs, lol. Then in that case your statement is correct.

I just got done fixing that to say "PowerPC Mac." Need to think before I type.

 

[MysticCow]

I correct them nicely once and then answer the question. Hopefully, they learn and not do the same thing again.

 

[eyoungren]

Yeah, it's surprising. Most of the old hands there are actually being nice about it. I just find it stupifying that these questions are still being asked.

The last title is even a twofer. The writer of that one not only assumes that he can boot from USB he goes on to assume he can install Yosemite on it.

Sometimes (no, a lot of times) I worry about humanity.

 

[weckart]

I would just direct them to MacOS9lives. Give it a couple of weeks and someone there will have hacked El Capitan to run on a Mac SE with Thunderbolt emulated through ADB. Or something.

 

[happyfrappy]

Could be those people posting such questions bought their Mac from shady eBay sellers who called them MacBook/MacBook Pros in reality they were just an iBook or PowerBook G4. Even at the tail end of G5 iMacs some people wanted to run Vista on their Macs via VirtualPC, sure it could be done but it'll be dog slow enough you'd rather buy a cheap $300 PC at Walmart instead via: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2006060816033250

I'll quote a Windows friend of mine who hated Macs for lack of games: "There are two kinds of Mac users, the lazy I just want something which works or someone who wants to get the job done without distractions(ex: no Minesweeper, Solitaire or any good games).
...that friend bought a Mac once Steam arrived on Intel Macs as Vista/7 drove him nuts with silly taskbar popups worse than XP(hey, you safely removed a USB flash drive for the 1000th time and this PC loves to drill it into your eyes & noggin' as if you're a stupid fool with a lack of short term memory)

 

[MagicBoy]

Aren't macs technically Intel PCs . I think saying they aren't Wintel machines will clear it up.

An Intel PC is a Personal Computer with an Intel CPU, but Intel Macs are not a what used to be termed an IBM Compatible PC. They share a lot of components but are missing a few important pieces of the puzzle. Boot Camp adds the bits that Windows needs back in.

 

[Dronecatcher]

Sometimes (no, a lot of times) I worry about humanity.

I think it's an age thing. If you're old enough, one tends to still associate computers (as a wide term) which a niche market, a hobbyist thing for tinkerers. But now they're consumer products as ubiquitous as fridges and, in theory, as easy to use, anybody and everybody has one.
It is sad however, that with the colossal amount of information at people's finger tips, there are still those who can't simply spend a few moments in Google to learn what they're dealing with.

 

[bunnspecial]

I would just direct them to MacOS9lives. Give it a couple of weeks and someone there will have hacked El Capitan to run on a Mac SE with Thunderbolt emulated through ADB. Or something.

If you're not going to make it work on a 128K, why even bother?

 

[mzs.112000]

I would just direct them to MacOS9lives. Give it a couple of weeks and someone there will have hacked El Capitan to run on a Mac SE with Thunderbolt emulated through ADB. Or something.

No thats not what they would do.
NOTE: THIS IS NOT FOR REAL, IT MOST LIKELY WOULD NOT WORK IN REAL LIFE, IT IS JUST FOR FUN.

First you get a new mac with El Capitan
Then you install a VNC server
Then you put Debian 7 Wheezy on your Mac SE
Then you connect the Mac SE to your home network(you figure out how yo do this)
Then you install a VNC viewer on Debian
Then you connect the VNC viewer to your new Mac.
Lastly you start using the remote desktop.

 

[ApolloBoy]

It is sad however, that with the colossal amount of information at people's finger tips, there are still those who can't simply spend a few moments in Google to learn what they're dealing with.

That's exactly the reason why I try to stay away from Apple's message boards, way too many people who ask dumb questions that could be easily answered with a quick Google search.

 

[eyoungren]

That's exactly the reason why I try to stay away from Apple's message boards, why too many people who ask dumb questions that could be easily answered with a quick Google search.

But it's good for the occasional laugh or face palm!

 

[weckart]

That's exactly the reason why I try to stay away from Apple's message boards, way too many people who ask dumb questions that could be easily answered with a quick Google search.

But Google is evil: St Steve said so. Therefore you search via Apple's own search engine aka Apple's Message Boards and stay clean.

 

[roadbloc]

Wasn't there once a poster on here who'd claim he/she could get modern hardware and software working on PPC Macs? Full of crap obviously, but they'd adamantly argue it to the bitter end. I forget their username.

 

[lowendlinux]

I'm gonna guess that would be rabidz7 who talked all kinds of junk on OCN and got banned

 

[eyoungren]

Wasn't there once a poster on here who'd claim he/she could get modern hardware and software working on PPC Macs? Full of crap obviously, but they'd adamantly argue it to the bitter end. I forget their username.

See below…

I'm gonna guess that would be rabidz7 who talked all kinds of junk on OCN and got banned

Yes. That was rabidz7.

Note that he has returned several times with several different usernames. The Mods always find him and ban him again when he does.

 

[Gamer9430]

Wasn't there once a poster on here who'd claim he/she could get modern hardware and software working on PPC Macs? Full of crap obviously, but they'd adamantly argue it to the bitter end. I forget their username.

Yeah, that was Rabidz7/BobTheTrucker/ModernG5... He's nuts.

 

[eyoungren]

Yeah, that was Rabidz7/BobTheTrucker/ModernG5... He's nuts.

I wouldn't call him nuts, so much as unwilling to admit he is wrong. He had a thought, it sounded good to him, people corrected him, he got an attitude about it.

Now it's built up into this "thing". Because he will never admit that he was wrong to begin with.

 

[Gamer9430]

I wouldn't call him nuts, so much as unwilling to admit he is wrong. He had a thought, it sounded good to him, people corrected him, he got an attitude about it.

Now it's built up into this "thing" because he will never admit that he was wrong to begin with.

Yeah you're right... I used nuts because of the fact that he keeps having such outlandish ideas, and when we correct him he goes berserk. Doing drugs will do that to you, kiddies of MR

 

[eyoungren]

Yeah you're right... I used nuts because of the fact that he keeps having such outlandish ideas, and when we correct him he goes berserk. Doing drugs will do that to you, kiddies of MR

He wants to be right so bad so that he can shove it in everyone's face and shut them all up. That's his form of validation.

The major problem is that he's wrong. And no amount of 'truthiness' will make him right.

In my opinion.