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Subaru Debuts 2018 Legacy With CarPlay at Chicago Auto Show

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Subaru today announced it will debut its all-new 2018 Legacy at the annual Chicago Auto Show next week. The mid-size sedan will be one of Subaru's first vehicles to support CarPlay alongside the 2017 Impreza introduced last year.


CarPlay and Android Auto will be available through Subaru's STARLINK multimedia system with Bluetooth connectivity and iPod controls. The standard system has a 6.5-inch touchscreen, while an 8-inch touchscreen is available with a faster CPU, TomTom navigation, and enhanced multimedia capabilities.

Subaru said the 2018 Legacy will go on sale this summer. Pricing was not disclosed.

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I think that the automakers that rely on either CarPlay or Android Auto are going to best serve their customers, while those who go their own way with home-grown interfaces will more often frustrate consumers with interfaces that are routinely awkward to use, and still a work in progress.
 
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It is odd Subaru has so far only chosen the Impreza (lowest model) and the Legacy (highest model) of its vehicle lineup to receive CarPlay. Subaru really needs to extend this across the entire lineup because their current hardware is sub-par at best. I was forced to purchase their GPS nav unit if I wanted the higher model trim and the unit has never worked properly. I am taking my Outback in to have the second GPS nav unit checked (and replaced), but I hate having to fight the dealership constantly to convince them it is not just a setting--yeah, the console freezing and not responding, rebooting in the middle of a route, or just having the radio randomly turn on is a setting o_O I won't buy another Subaru unless it has CarPlay.
 
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iMerik

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My experience with Carplay is very ho-hum. Too many limitations and boring screens.
Do you have experience with a system like Toyota's Entune? I've never used CarPlay, but I imagine it's more useful than Entune if only to improve the navigation system.
 
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I think that the automakers that rely on either CarPlay or Android Auto are going to best serve their customers, while those who go their own way with home-grown interfaces will more often frustrate consumers with interfaces that are routinely awkward to use, and still a work in progress.
You and I differ here: I think that the automakers that offer a choice of either CarPlay or Android Auto are going to best serve their customers...

CP/AA are simply fancy overlays powered by the car owners device. Imo, that's what they should be. It's inclusive and provides the greatest choice for consumers. For those who want CP/AA they can have it. For those like me who want neither, we're happy as well. Everyone wins.
 
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CaryMacGuy

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Add that to the list of vehicles to consider when I replace my Focus next year. So far we have the Honda Civic, Honda Accord, Nissan Maxima, Subaru Impreza, and now Subaru Legacy.
 
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My experience with Carplay is very ho-hum. Too many limitations and boring screens.

What are you expecting? Some convoluted user interface? I want my display straight forward and easy to access. You're in a car and memory access and basic functionality is preferable for some. Take the display icons for example, they're large and straight to the point where they perform the functions you need, versus having unnecessary functions that you will never use.
 
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I personally prefer many automakers' interfaces as opposed to CarPlay. Chevrolet/GMC come to mind.
 
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Do you have experience with a system like Toyota's Entune? I've never used CarPlay, but I imagine it's more useful than Entune if only to improve the navigation system.

Entune is indeed awful. My wife has it in her 2014 Highlander XLE. The system will randomly reboot itself.

As for Subaru, I'm watching this very closely as my next car will most likely be an Outback. If the Legacy gets CarPlay, the Outback is not far behind.
 
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My experience with Carplay is very ho-hum. Too many limitations and boring screens.

"Boring" screens and limited functionality is exactly what you should have in a car. The stuff that should interest you is outside.

What are you expecting? Some convoluted user interface? I want my display straight forward and easy to access. You're in a car and memory access and basic functionality is preferable for some. Take the display icons for example, they're large and straight to the point where they perform the functions you need, versus having unnecessary functions that you will never use.

How about more compatible apps, such as an alternative for Apple Maps. I wished CP was not as limited as it is, also, I wished it was not as buggy.

Fix the bugs, and have some other Apps such as Waze.
 
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How about more compatible apps, such as an alternative for Apple Maps. I wished CP was not as limited as it is, also, I wished it was not as buggy.

Fix the bugs, and have some other Apps such as Waze.

Like anything, it's evolving. I think it's grown significantly since it's debut already. Some
Of the applications are proprietary and allowing third party competitors likely wouldn't happen.
 
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How about more compatible apps, such as an alternative for Apple Maps. I wished CP was not as limited as it is, also, I wished it was not as buggy.

Fix the bugs, and have some other Apps such as Waze.
YES!!!
Allow apps like Waze and Google Maps. I love Apple (obviously, since I am on this forum;)) but I actually prefer Google Maps to Apple Maps. Since I have CarPlay in my current vehicle, via a Pioneer AppRadio system, I use Apple Maps but I wish I had options.
 
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CarPlay and Android Auto will be available through Subaru's STARLINK multimedia system with Bluetooth connectivity and iPod controls.

Does this mean wireless CarPlay? I thought CP could not run wirelessly over BT....
 
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My biggest gripe with CarPlay so far is really more related to Apple Music. I don't subscribe, but every track I have ever added to iTunes is listed in my music menus. I only keep a relatively small amount of music on my phone, so I've given up on using CarPlay to play audio.

YES!!!
Allow apps like Waze and Google Maps. I love Apple (obviously, since I am on this forum;)) but I actually prefer Google Maps to Apple Maps. Since I have CarPlay in my current vehicle, via a Pioneer AppRadio system, I use Apple Maps but I wish I had options.
Waze supports the AppRadio line: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio
 
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It is odd Subaru has so far only chosen the Impreza (lowest model) and the Legacy (highest model) of its vehicle lineup to receive CarPlay. Subaru really needs to extend this across the entire lineup because their current hardware is sub-par at best. I was forced to purchase their GPS nav unit if I wanted the higher model trim and the unit has never worked properly. I am taking my Outback in to have the second GPS nav unit checked (and replaced), but I hate having to fight the dealership constantly to convince them it is not just a setting--yeah, the console freezing and not responding, rebooting in the middle of a route, or just having the radio randomly turn on is a setting o_O I won't buy another Subaru unless it has CarPlay.

Do yourself a favor and get an aftermarket unit in there. I replaced the stock GPS unit in my WRX with a Pioneer one 2 months after buying the car and it is so much better. Not just functionality, but the sound quality, holy crap did the stock unit sound awful. Now I need to replace it again as I've switched to Android and the one I have doesn't support Android Auto.
 
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It is odd Subaru has so far only chosen the Impreza (lowest model) and the Legacy (highest model) of its vehicle lineup to receive CarPlay. Subaru really needs to extend this across the entire lineup because their current hardware is sub-par at best.


Subaru is in the beginnings of moving their entire platform to a new global platform, one of the benefits of is CarPlay (also seems to be LED cornering lights, a lot quieter, etc):

http://blog.caranddriver.com/subaru-global-platform-debuts-will-underpin-all-future-subarus/
 
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It is odd Subaru has so far only chosen the Impreza (lowest model) and the Legacy (highest model) of its vehicle lineup to receive CarPlay. Subaru really needs to extend this across the entire lineup because their current hardware is sub-par at best. I was forced to purchase their GPS nav unit if I wanted the higher model trim and the unit has never worked properly. I am taking my Outback in to have the second GPS nav unit checked (and replaced), but I hate having to fight the dealership constantly to convince them it is not just a setting--yeah, the console freezing and not responding, rebooting in the middle of a route, or just having the radio randomly turn on is a setting o_O I won't buy another Subaru unless it has CarPlay.

I'm assuming that if the Legacy gets CarPlay, the Outback will too, since it's essentially a lifted Legacy station wagon.

Also, there are aftermarket stereo head units from companies like Kenwood and Pioneer that have CarPlay. Many have good integration with existing steering wheel controls and the like. If you look around on the forums for your particular model at autoguide.com, you'll find hints from people who've done that, including sources for things like replacement center console bezels to fit aftermarket stereos.

I'm considering an aftermarket stereo for my '13 Outback, and it's good to know that if I get to replacing that car, I can get CarPlay directly from Subaru.
 
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I have never been able to get that to work...I have tried a few times.

You have to change the settings, basicly disabling CP, and you also need Apple's digital AV adapter for the iPhone, and that needs to be connected to the headunit with an HDMI cable in addition to the lightning cable.

After all of that, it still is not very impressive, as the app is laggy and doesn't look as good in mirrored mode.
 
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You have to change the settings, basicly disabling CP, and you also need Apple's digital AV adapter for the iPhone, and that needs to be connected to the headunit with an HDMI cable in addition to the lightning cable.

After all of that, it still is not very impressive, as the app is laggy and doesn't look as good in mirrored mode.
Sounds like it isn't even worth my effort. Maybe the better solution for Waze would to to invest in a dash mount for my phone and roll with that.
 
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