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I have the WH1000XM3s and love everything about them apart from their very warm sound. I don't find them too bassy at all, but they certainly lack clarity for high frequencies. Classical music often needs a boost with the EQ settings in the app, and tape his is almost completely missing in playback for older recordings.

I hope the WH1000XM4s will address this.

I quite love the warm calibration. Listening to ride of the Valkyries comes through perfectly - to my ears. I’m curious which classical music are you listening to? Would like to experience more as I’m just gettting into this genre

He isn’t really the typical audiophile. Most purists have an optical audio setup over analog if they could

However which smartphone actually came with optical line out (SPDIF)? I only recall the Sony Mini/Hi-MD disc walkmans having this.

anyone have any news or RUMORS of the WF-1000XM4’s?
 
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However which smartphone actually came with optical line out (SPDIF)? I only recall the Sony Mini/Hi-MD disc walkmans having this.

anyone have any news or RUMORS of the WF-1000XM4’s?

I was just generally speaking about audiophiles / USB-C headphones. If going wired and you're not mobile, you probably would want to do the optical w/ balanced for the "best" connection. If mobile, I agree that the 3.5mm would be good already for an iPhone. Having a balanced cable won't really matter unless maybe if you do the iPhone -> DAC -> headphone connector. And if someone went through that already, they'd probably would want to abandon the 1000XMs and look at CIEMs or better passive isolation headphones.

I am expecting the XM4s to iterate on the XM3s and just have similar features to the XM3s (battery life / better ANC / maybe more knobs to play with).
 
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A few months ago I was about to buy the XM3s until I read many reports, across many forums, that the mics were crap. Then I read about the H910Ns, but after trying them on in a shop and comparing the comfort of those, and the audio, against the XM3s I went back to the XM3s.

Then I read about the potential XM4s. I'm now waiting for those. Luckily, I'm not in a hurry :)
 
It’s because of the quantity of cheap feeling plastics used and pleather ear pads. It gives the perception of being poorly made - and frankly they are compared to the competition in the similar price bracket such as B&O’s H9, Bowers & Wilkins’ PX/PX7, Dali’s iO-6, Sennheiser’s M3 and even the Bose 700.


after watching John Darko’s tube review of the PX7’s I really wanted to like these and came very close to purchasing them.

the following had me choosing the Sony WH-1000XM3’s:
Folding headset (easier portability with/out carrying case)
Almost identical sound signature for Hip-Hop/Electrónica (Ambient/House - all global forms of House since 1987 to current day: Garage/Techno/Tech/EDM/Afro House/Tribal etc)
Touch Controls - that are not affected by hands when adjusting the headphones.
ability to adjust sound signature via the app made a huge win for the Sony’s.
Voice quality during calls to the other party is WORSE on the PX7’s

build quality is subjective. Yes it’s a consensus when we talk about quality materials that we touch in products ... yet we forget the sum of the parts used beyond design or aesthetics.
Microphones on the PX7 makes their use for phone calls an absolute no go even compared to the XM3’s and inability to fold them makes their existence in this category - portable headphones seem like an oxymoron. I love the design but quality means more than parts used or the sum of the parts - it’s in what we use them as a whole.

can’t wait to see the PX7 successor to the XM4’s :)
 
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Voice quality during calls to the other party is WORSE on the PX7’s
Really? A very common complaint, and what stopped me buying the XM3s, was the poor mics used for calls. I'm waiting for the XM4s, although the wait is irritating as I only have wired headphones at the moment, since my Plantronics Backbeat Pros broke(*), and the cable is annoying me.

* Battery died just outside the warranty period, and Plantronic's response was "they're disposable, buy a new pair". Err, nope.
 
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Anyone interested now that these are officially now available?

For me it is a hard sell because of keeping same design.

Given the same budget I would buy the Bose 700 or wait for the Apple edition.
 
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