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Don't people have any common sense these days?
From my personal observations, more than a few (but not all) do not.

That said, why don't more of you guys have spell checking enabled? It's December 2013, this problem should be something of the past with modern web browser software.
 
But! But...! Investors and Analysts said "Apple is Doomed"!!!

You forgot the annoying :rolleyes: face. After the obligatory "Apple is Doomed" sarcastic post there must always be a :rolleyes:. So sayeth the LORD Arn (glory be His name) in the commandments of MacRumors.
 
Reading this comment makes me want to drop-kick a kitten.

It's one ****ing extra letter, if it bothers you that much just PM the poster instead of making a comment.

Don't people have any common sense these days?

Please, please friends. As long as we're talking about drop-kicking things, let's keep it appropriate: drop kick an Android device. :D Or a RIM one if you want to be especially mean.

:rolleyes:

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You forgot the annoying :rolleyes: face. After the obligatory "Apple is Doomed" sarcastic post there must always be a :rolleyes:. So sayeth the LORD Arn (glory be His name) in the commandments of MacRumors.

:D

DOOMED!!! :rolleyes:
 
Seeing as they had a seemingly unlimited supply of Airs and 5Cs in store at launch means unlike most launches they didn't run out of stock within hours.

Bad for the launch day queues - good for the Apple coffers!
 
Can't wait to see the haters spin this into bad news. iOS7 and Mavericks are taking Apple to new highs.

If by "new highs" you mean higher # of app(safari) blow ups, then yes. You are correct.

But of course, iOS7.1 is going to fix all that, right? :(
 
All looks good now, but when it's April and there hasn't been a keynote in 6 months and nothing planned until WWDC, look for another nosedive.

Not sure why they've adopted this avalanche of products in October strategy the past 2 years.
 
Don't confuse analysts w/ investors. Without investors Apple never gets off the ground. OTOH analysts are mostly parasites.

I'm not a big fan of market analysts, but isn't this just a bit extreme? Somebody must think their work is valuable or they would not have any.
 
Well, the actual problem is that there are two overlapping markets, they just happen to buy the same stocks.

There's individuals like you and me who buy companies with our own money based on how we view the future of those companies. Based on the people I talk to I don't think people like us have done much over the last 4 years. Everyone I know just keeps holding onto their shares.

If we were all there was, it would be a very stable stock.

But we're overlaid with the other kind of investor: The fund manager. This is a guy responsible for billions of dollars of other people's money. Like, say, a pension manager for a city government or large company. It's not his job to get a huge return, but rather to hit a specific (but safe) annual return.

Those are the guys that pumped a ton of money into Apple and shot it up to $700. They're also the guys who moved on at that point because it wasn't going to go much higher. And that was the right move for those guys. They didn't do anything wrong. It's not their job to invest in companies long term, it's their job to protect their own business' money.

But what that does is rock the ocean for you and me. We own sailboats and they're oil tankers. And we're all playing in the same pool. And when they stand up it has a big effect on the water level.

The big problem for Apple shareholders is that while investors see Apple not moving much further they take their money from Apple and put it into companies like Amazon, Google and Priceline because they believe those companies will continue to climb a lot further. Amazon for the past five years has moved straight up without a hiccup even though everyone was saying Amazon was a bubble stock but it was Apple that became the bubble stock and collapsed in a heap while Amazon just kept flying higher. There's no fundamentals that Apple has that is inferior to Apple but now Google is sitting over $1000 a share while Apple is mired below $600.

All the talk about Apple stores being packed are doing very little for share gains. Same as having to listen to stories about Apple leading in this category and Apple leading in that category while the stock flops and all the big money gains goes to Amazon shareholders. Most of 2013 was a disaster for long-term Apple shareholders while the rest of the market went on to make huge gains. I just think the Apple bulls need to stop making like Apple's share price is going to soar to the heavens when it's not. I can't tell whether the China Mobile deal has taken place or not because if it has, the stock doesn't reflect it at all. If that had been Amazon, the stock would have gone up $100 in a day. With Apple, nada. Investors truly have the ultimate confidence in Amazon and Jeff Bezos, not Apple and Tim Cook.

Apple stock is still in a big hole after the collapse from $700 to $400 in 2012. I guess there's nothing stopping the big investor boys from standing up and leaving Apple shareholders in another sink-hole this year when they decide Apple stock has again reached its limit. They'll just run to Google and push it up to $1200 to make some easy money.
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All looks good now, but when it's April and there hasn't been a keynote in 6 months and nothing planned until WWDC, look for another nosedive.

Not sure why they've adopted this avalanche of products in October strategy the past 2 years.

It's called Christmas. Although I prefer to celebrate Sol Invictus on the 25th of December, but I'm a traditionalist.
 
The big problem for Apple shareholders is that while investors see Apple not moving much further they take their money from Apple and put it into companies like Amazon, Google and Priceline because they believe those companies will continue to climb a lot further. Amazon for the past five years has moved straight up without a hiccup even though everyone was saying Amazon was a bubble stock but it was Apple that became the bubble stock and collapsed in a heap while Amazon just kept flying higher. There's no fundamentals that Apple has that is inferior to Apple but now Google is sitting over $1000 a share while Apple is mired below $600.

All the talk about Apple stores being packed are doing very little for share gains. Same as having to listen to stories about Apple leading in this category and Apple leading in that category while the stock flops and all the big money gains goes to Amazon shareholders. Most of 2013 was a disaster for long-term Apple shareholders while the rest of the market went on to make huge gains. I just think the Apple bulls need to stop making like Apple's share price is going to soar to the heavens when it's not. I can't tell whether the China Mobile deal has taken place or not because if it has, the stock doesn't reflect it at all. If that had been Amazon, the stock would have gone up $100 in a day. With Apple, nada. Investors truly have the ultimate confidence in Amazon and Jeff Bezos, not Apple and Tim Cook.

Apple stock is still in a big hole after the collapse from $700 to $400 in 2012. I guess there's nothing stopping the big investor boys from standing up and leaving Apple shareholders in another sink-hole this year when they decide Apple stock has again reached its limit. They'll just run to Google and push it up to $1200 to make some easy money.
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Obviously 2013 was pretty disappointing for longterm investors, but true longterm investors are patient because they have been through this before. Either they have enough confidence in the company to wait it out, or they don't. Seems to me 2013 was only a disaster for people who bought at the top then panicked and sold near the bottom.

Looking at this another way, when AAPL fell to $400 it was selling at a trailing multiple of around 9 (IIRC). This was a pretty negative appraisal of the company's growth prospects, and not entirely without cause. Remember, Apple posted four straight quarters of YoY earnings declines. When this happens and the stock falls, it is not the analysts' fault, and it is not the institutional traders' fault, it is the company's fault for posting lousy earnings reports. Anyone who expects a stock to hold its own under those circumstances is deluding themselves. Currently the trailing PE is closer to 14, which is a much more confident indication of growth, perhaps of the 10-15% YoY variety. Which happens to be realistic.

As for trying to figure out why a stock trades a certain way on any given day, forget about it. It doesn't really mean anything, so why worry about it? As for comparing to AMZN, forget about that too. Either Amazon will some day (soon) report earnings that justify the stock price, or they won't. It doesn't matter to anyone if they aren't a stockholder, so let them worry about it.
 
I know correcting grammar/spelling on MR is considered to be rude, so please don't take offense. It's just that reading this comment made me want to drop-kick a puppy.

It's forest.

How do you know he wasn't referring to Forrest Gump? Perhaps he couldn't see Forrest by looking at the trees and simply forgot to capitalize his first name.
 
…..you can't see the forrest for the trees…..

I know correcting grammar/spelling on MR is considered to be rude, so please don't take offense. It's just that reading this comment made me want to drop-kick a puppy.

It's forest.

Linguistic purists shiver at this, no doubt, but mistakes like these are quite understandable, because of titles such as 'Forrest Gump' that confuse people, much like "Inglourious Basterds" will confuse people to misspell 'inglorious' or 'bastard'.

And not that different from 60's groups such as the Beatles (beetles), the Byrds (birds) or the Monkees (monkeys).
 
All looks good now, but when it's April and there hasn't been a keynote in 6 months and nothing planned until WWDC, look for another nosedive.

Not sure why they've adopted this avalanche of products in October strategy the past 2 years.
Not much of a secret at all: Apple execs are desperate, trying to confuse investors about company real growth. Manipulating product release cycle is one of the tactics to distract analysts and earnings figures. Unfortunately they ran out of options last year and it is on downward trajectory ever since. So Apple execs are busy figuring out damage control of loosing to their own past results. The recent run up is speculation about Apples cash coffins as some big pockets are lining up in hopes to capture this catch, but they will be gone as soon as coffins are emptied enough, they would not be caught owning company stock with loosing market share prospect.

What is interesting, I found Java developers are hating Apple products the most. .NET folks are neutral. C folks tend to like Apple products. Ah, almost forgot, former VB folks seems to like Windows Phones, ha-ha. Honestly, I did not witness from any of my colleagues act of buying Apple product for a while, with one exception: Java dev finally got fully loaded Apple Mac Air 11" (after I "courted him" with Apple products propaganda for about year and a half), but he still hates iPhones. In fact, any new phones purchased around me are Droid phones. Gosh, you should see the excitement when someone brings new Droid phone to work place. It does not look having iPhone is cool anymore, but I like my iPhone5 as I do not care of trends.

So I have no idea who is buying any product from Apple lately. Apparently, someone does, but not in IT world or hot cloud start ups.
 
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My apps don't crash. You mileage may vary.


Wrong.
Just wrong.
I'm in LOVE with iOS 7. Have used it in all beta builds & now final build with latest updates on iPhone 4, iPad mini (nice, but a tad sluggish), iPad 3rd gen, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, & iPad Air (stellar experience on all!).... However, I would be a boldfaced liar if I tried to pretend like Safari does not crash MUCH more often in iOS 7. I'm certain they'll work the bugs out.... but the only possible way you're telling the truth is if you use an alternate web browser or simply do not surf the net on your iPad.
 
Wrong.
Just wrong.
I'm in LOVE with iOS 7. Have used it in all beta builds & now final build with latest updates on iPhone 4, iPad mini (nice, but a tad sluggish), iPad 3rd gen, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, & iPad Air (stellar experience on all!).... However, I would be a boldfaced liar if I tried to pretend like Safari does not crash MUCH more often in iOS 7. I'm certain they'll work the bugs out.... but the only possible way you're telling the truth is if you use an alternate web browser or simply do not surf the net on your iPad.

It's not just wrong, it's my experience but I'm not disagreeing with you, which is why I said your mileage may vary. I'm saying, I have not had many (I can count on one hand) crashes with ios7 on my iPhone 5 or iPad mini since upgrading from the BETAS, which crashed all the time. Of course, I don't know what sites you're going too and what scripting said sites are using.
 
It's not just wrong, it's my experience but I'm not disagreeing with you, which is why I said your mileage may vary. I'm saying, I have not had many (I can count on one hand) crashes with ios7 on my iPhone 5 or iPad mini since upgrading from the BETAS, which crashed all the time. Of course, I don't know what sites you're going too and what scripting said sites are using.

Fair enough. I suppose I should say then - you are one of the lucky few. I, most recently, had Safari crash on Macrumors, about 6 hours ago.... as I toggled off private browsing. No other sites were open. This was on my Air, which obviously has never run any beta software.
 
The 'feeling' I was getting on the 'street' was last year individuals were leaving Apple product, especially the iPhone, in favor of the newest Android and PC tablets. It 'felt' like a normal cycle of a product line. Initially adopted by the younger demographic. Carries for a few years with 'parents' then 'grandparents' jumping on the bandwagon. Once 'grandparents' are using the iPhone the early adopters abandon the product line in favor of a newer, hipper product. The problem with the cycle in this particular scenario is the product line is so much superior to what else is available that the younger demo came right back to Apple after one generation of product due to the ecosystem and far superior user experience.
 
Can't wait to see the haters spin this into bad news. iOS7 and Mavericks are taking Apple to new highs.

Maybe, but of all the colleagues I know have bought some new Mac gear this holiday season, I know they did not do it because of getting a free copy of mavericks (most had mavericks running on their older gear), but I know one who remarked: "Nice, If I buy this rMBP, I'll get free iWork".

So iPad Mini Retina models are constrained, but there ARE plenty of Retina iPad Air models available that start at about $100 more...

Yes and no, you cannot judge how well Apple meets global demand by looking at availability in the US. Tablets are more the domain of general purpose retailers, and most of those are still eagerly awaiting their retina Mini's. I'm still planning on getting one for the wife, and as retailers have the same prices as Apple specialists, I'm still procrastinating, hoping to source mine from somewhere which gives me a bonus on the 400€...


But! But...! Investors and Analysts said "Apple is Doomed"!!!

In the really long run, we are all doomed.

RGDS,
 
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