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That's a pretty loaded survey question. It's like asking people with single-scoop ice cream cones if they would prefer a three-scoop sundae with chocolate syrup, whipped cream and a cherry on top.

And then saying "The results clearly show there is strong interest in whipped cream".

I DO think Apple should bring on the larger sizes. I think its about time they opened up their iPhone line to include a better variety of devices.

This year though, I think we see the 6 (4.7") and 6 (5.5"). The 5C and 5S remain as part of the line.

Then in the future, we'll see updates to all three sizes annually.....hopefully. Maybe the 5C sticks around and they turn it into the "low-cost" option people clamour for.

Honestly, despite the fact it goes against Apple's "premium" model, if there was a low-cost iPhone option that was relatively up-to date spec wise (say the 5C if it cost $350 off contract) and if they do add the two larger options - how much market share would Apple gain?

I'd think it would be pretty huge.
 
I have been using two hands since the iPhone 3G & 4 and now 5s.

I can't use one hand because of arthirtis in my hands. I am very young to have this problem but if I try to use one-handed anything, I get sharp shooting pains, numbness in my hand. Locks up then I drop whatever I am holding.

So this advertised "One-handed Use" is all marketing b s.

I can't wait to buy a larger iPhone Note 2 size. I would have loved to get a 5 inch model but 4.7 is way to small.
 
This is an honest question with no sarcastic undertones whatsoever, but can someone tell me exactly why one-handed use is a desired feature?

I have a Nexus 5 with a 5" screen and honestly don't ever find myself saying: Damn, I wish I could use this with one hand instead of two.

Again, honest question.

D.

Aside from our youngest generation who've had the pleasure of using nothing but fancy "phones", for the rest of us, people have become accustomed to using the traditional "Phone". At work we pick up a handset to answer the phone with one hand. For the most part, until Smartphones such as Samsung's stuff came out with larger screens requiring two hands to do many tasks we've been picking up Smartphones to make calls using one hand and a thumb to dial.

At the end of the day we're talking about a phone still and frankly I would prefer not to have to use both hands to dial a simple phone call or bother to use Siri just to avoid that.
 
I can still use my Nexus 5 with one hand most of the time...
You're welcome. And I tried to focus more on 1 hand vs. 2 hand than screen size for that reason.

Personally, I don't feel like there is any reason not to make the iPhone's screen as big as possible, so long as it doesn't cross the threshold of convenience: 1 vs 2 hands, pocketability, etc. And unfortunately, that threshold isn't going to be the same for everyone.

As soon as you reach that threshold, or even get too close to it, you've created a device that is outright terrible and useless in many situations, and to people who are in those situations often, an easy no-buy. But to people rarely in those scenarios, they want the big screen, and now that so many competitors offer it, Apple must cater to them. But I hope Apple takes this opportunity to divide the product into two categories: a true phablet iPhone with an industry leading enormous screen and no consideration to 1 handed convenience, and then a traditional iPhone designed with 1 handed convenience in mind above all else.

I already feel like the iPhone 5 models vs. the 4 models pushed that boundary to the limit. But having a proper widescreen aspect ratio (same as HD 1920x1080) is nice and worth it. And while it's less convenient, it's not quite too inconvenient. I am seriously worried that the smallest new iPhone is going to be too big. I think Apple has failed to recognize that the users who want big screens are only going to want the biggest, so making the smaller model's screen bigger isn't appealing to anyone. It'll lose the convenience that its target audience demands while being ignored in favor of the phablet model by the customers who like big screens.

The only way I see this working is if the new 4.7" screen comes in a much compacted phone body that leaves the overall device roughly the same size as the current models. I reluctantly upgraded from a 4S to a 5C (though I admit I'm much happier with the feel of the 5C's curvy body despite the slight size increase), but it happened mostly because my contract was up, and paying the subsidy without upgrading felt wasteful. Now the phone plans are different; I don't pay a subsidy; nothing will compel me to upgrade from this phone ever again except purely based on the merits of a new model. And since I value convenience more than anything else, that model is an easy no-buy if it's bigger than my current phone.
 
Correct, and Apple also stated at one point phones don't need multitasking and Steve Jobs saw no interest in apps on the newly released iPhone.

Unless you heard him say something different from this what you're stating isn't correct. He stated, "software running in the background, that just sort of exhausts the battery quickly.""
 
Exactly!!!

Not gonna happen. Unless that phone has some 'out of this world' type technology.

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Aside from our youngest generation who've had the pleasure of using nothing but fancy "phones", for the rest of us, people have become accustomed to using the traditional "Phone". At work we pick up a handset to answer the phone with one hand. For the most part, until Smartphones such as Samsung's stuff came out with larger screens requiring two hands to do many tasks we've been picking up Smartphones to make calls using one hand and a thumb to dial.

At the end of the day we're talking about a phone still and frankly I would prefer not to have to use both hands to dial a simple phone call or bother to use Siri just to avoid that.

That would be why more form factors for the iPhone would be a good move for Apple.

They can accomodate both camps.
 
This is an honest question with no sarcastic undertones whatsoever, but can someone tell me exactly why one-handed use is a desired feature?

I have a Nexus 5 with a 5" screen and honestly don't ever find myself saying: Damn, I wish I could use this with one hand instead of two.

Again, honest question.

D.

I think the only reason is that the back button is on the top left of the screen for most application. I think that the swipe feature to go back in safari could solve this problem though.
I use my iPhone with two hands most of the time but it still feels more natural to use my right thumb to browse. And if my right thumb can't reach the back button on the top left of the screen, I will have to use my left thumb, which is not user friendly.
 
I think the market for the Note 3 and other larger phones shows consumers like choices and a larger phone does strike the chord with some people.

Apple would be remiss to exclude this segment of consumers, so hopefully we'll see a larger iPhone in the near future.

You don't have an iPhone anymore correct? Will you go back if the rumors of two larger iPhones are true?
 
Do we think the bigger phones will have a different resolution(s)?

Redefine "retina" or give developers a headache?

It's not so tidy to provide @2.5 assets but @4 assets would add up to quite a lot of wasted data.

Of course it will have a different resolution and of course developers will be impacted. You can’t increase the screen size and keep the same resolutions unless you like seeing dots all over the place. And developers will have at minimum 3 resolutions to worry about. If history tells us anything over 99% of the apps on release day will not take advantage of the large screen. Apps are going to have black bars or maybe Apple finds a way to expand apps to fill the screen in iOS 8 until those apps can be re-written.
I would be shocked if Apple uses the same Retina resolution on a larger device. It would be logical but Retina today has much less meaning when you have Android phones over 400 and 500 dpi.
 
I think the only reason is that the back button is on the top left of the screen for most application. I think that the swipe feature to go back in safari could solve this problem though.
I use my iPhone with two hands most of the time but it still feels more natural to use my right thumb to browse. And if my right thumb can't reach the back button on the top left of the screen, I will have to use my left thumb, which is not user friendly.

That could be part of the reason I don't notice it much with the Nexus 5. It has an on-screen Back button specifically for returning to previous screens / apps that's located to the right of where Apple's home button is, so it's quite comfortable to reach with my thumb. iOS implementing a swipe back feature into all apps would definitely help with one of the reasons I use a second hand so much.

D.
 
A Tiny Mini....isn't that an oxymoron? :D
Or would that be considered an iPhone Nano. :)

A tiny mini isn't an oxymoron. It's redundant.

And oxymoron would be a Maxi Mini. A peace keeper missile is an oxymoron.

Jumbo Shrimp is an oxymoron.
 
MacBook Air
MacBook Pro

iPad mini
iPad Air
iPad Pro (12.9" ?)

iPhone mini (3.5" screen)
iPhone Air (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

I dunno.
Boring day + random guesses.

D.
 
FYI, your presumption of what people are doing with their phones is both wrong and offensive. Social media is the least used function of my iPhone.

"Offensive?" Grow tougher skin, that wasn't offensive at all. Learn to understand that generalizations don't necessarily apply to every single person.
 
Duhhh

No joke. I mean I don't want the screen to be over 5 inches personally, but duh we want a bigger iPhone!

ps: the whole "Our customers NEED to be able to use their iPhone with one hand" argument was always silly.
 
For myself, there are three things I think are superior.

First, you can perform quite a few actions to the notifications themselves, all whilst staying within the notification pane. Nothing fancy, but it makes things quicker.

Secondly, Android utilizes the tiny part at the top of the screen (where the battery life, signal strength, etc. is) and places little icons notifying you of new email, texts, Twitter, Facebook, etc. iOS does this with badges but if you have certain apps on secondary screens, you don't know unless go to that page or swipe down to see the notifications. With Android, it's just a quick glance to the header. Not sure why Apple can't utilize the same empty space to do that as well.

Third, which is probably a hardware thing (Nexus 5) more than an Android thing is a little LED that blinks when you have a notification of some sort. Mine is asleep beside me right now, but blinking so I know there's something there without even having to check it. The LED changes colours depending on the notification. I blinking TouchID ring would be swiggity on an iPhone. ;)

Again, these are just my opinions. Others may feel these aren't superior to iOS notifications and that's fine too.

D.

I agree with #1 and #3 but I hate all the emblems that pop up on the top. My preference obviously. The two things I miss when using my iphone is the led notifications and swype. Other than those two features I think android is absolute garbage
 
ps: the whole "Our customers NEED to be able to use their iPhone with one hand" argument was always silly.

Using your comment as a generic place to jump in...

Newcomers to smartphones don't realize that the old smartphone designs which they often make fun of...designs with handy thumb controls like cursor pads and Back and Menu buttons... were created to make ALL devices usable with one hand, no matter how large (or small) the screen was.

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I think Android devices made a mistake following Apple's lead as far as getting rid of cursor pads, for example. (The original Droid Incredible kept a tiny optical cursor button, and it was handy at times.)

Ditto for slowly getting rid of the bottom menu button.

However, they were smart enough to keep the Back button.

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Now, large Android phablets often have a one-handed mode, which puts the inputs (such as a smaller keyboard) over where your thumb is. (You can switch sides on the fly.)

I would not be surprised if Apple not only did that as well, but also had a little popup virtual onscreen cursor pad or mini-screen-display, that allowed the user to touch anywhere easily from a corner. Or let us use the TouchId as a cursor pad, which one of their patents mentioned.

Sometimes old ideas still make sense.
 
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MacBook Air
MacBook Pro

iPad mini
iPad Air
iPad Pro (12.9" ?)

iPhone mini (3.5" screen)
iPhone Air (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

I dunno.
Boring day + random guesses.

D.

Glad to see that some one else agrees with the 3 model lineup for each Apple product that I've been preaching to the choir. :D

Now, if only they implemented it (again) within the Macbook models (11", 13", 15" MBAir + 13", 15", 17" MBP) and iMacs (i.e. iMac 30") it would be awesome for us consumers and position Apple to corner most use cases.
 
Huh. Got my first foray into apple with my new 13"rMBP.

I was really considering going to an iphone once I get an upgrade on my current android. The only reason i was considering it was because of the smaller form factor. They are literally perfect.

The 4.7" screen on my HTC One is already too large. Looks like I won't be getting an iPhone. Dangit.
 
This is an honest question with no sarcastic undertones whatsoever, but can someone tell me exactly why one-handed use is a desired feature?

I have a Nexus 5 with a 5" screen and honestly don't ever find myself saying: Damn, I wish I could use this with one hand instead of two.

Again, honest question.

D.

I use my phone with one hand all the time. I might be doing somethign else, or when lying in bed I get to be more comfy. It is a useful ability.
 
I'd rather like a tiny iPhone mini. With just iCal, Contacts, Mail, Music Player, Messages and phone capabilities.

Since I sit in front of a computer the whole day long I don't see why I need apps.
And when I'm abroad, I can't use any app like google maps because roaming prices are ridiculous. So I still ask people on the street for directions while having a fancy iphone in my pocket doing nothing.

I think you should check out CityMaps2Go (or any of the other numerous offline mapping apps). Download the data for the city you are going to (you can even get Points of Interest/Wiki articles) and then you can actually get some use out of that fancy iPhone abroad. When I'm traveling I find if I turn on airplane mode but also turn on Wi-Fi, my mapping apps tends to "ping" off local Wi-Fi's frequently enough that it's almost like having GPS. I travel a lot so I recently bought a BadElf Bluetooth GPS so I can use my iOS devises pretty much anywhere in the world for navigation and maps. Anyways, food for thought - but it sounds like you're not getting the most out of that phone!
 
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