iPhone X Switched from AT&T to Verizon but I have A1901 model...

[TPadden]

That may be when they stop selling phones with CDMA radios.

If I were on the Verizon network and were buying a phone tomorrow I'd still want CDMA radios.

 

[d123]

“4G” = 3G HSPA. LTE was supposed to be 4G, but certain carriers who were far behind on their LTE networks basically forced the name change from 3G HSPA to 4G, thus LTE became “4G LTE”.

Back in the day, my iphone’s AT&T signal changed from “3G” to “4G” after receiving an over the air carrier update. Same phone, same network, new name.

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E (EDGE)

E stands for Edge, Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution. It is pre 3G technology and again, more likely to occur when you are in a weak signal area. You may not be able to effectively browse the internet on your device, when getting this signal.



3G (Third Generation)

3G is the third generation of the mobile network and provides adequate signal strength for browsing the internet. Most smartphone devices have the option of 3G fallback, and 3G network towers are available in nearly every city nationwide.



H (High Speed Packet Access)

H stands for HSPA, High Speed Packet Access. HSPA (or H) is considered an advancement of the 3G networks or "version 3.5". It offers a faster network connection than the 3G network.


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H+ (Evolved HSPA)

H+ stands for Evolved High Speed Packet Access. The network created before the emergence of 4G. It offers the fastest maximum speeds of all 3G networks (including 3G and H or HSPA).



LTE/4G (Fourth Generation)

Stands for fourth generation of the mobile network, and is also called LTE or Long Term Evolution. It offers the fastest maximum upload and download speeds of any network. For a network to consider itself 4G, it must meet the standards of the ITU or International Telecommunications Union.

Keep in mind, many H+ (HSPA+) networks mimic the speeds of 4G (or LTE), but because they do not meet the ITU requirements, they do not get the title of “LTE”.

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Oh, you’re one of those Americans who thinks the American use of 4G is the same as the rest of the world?

Most of the world knows LTE and above is 4G, just like the ITU-R put in its definition...

 

[TPadden]

Oh, you’re one of those Americans who thinks the American use of 4G is the same as the rest of the world?

Most of the world knows LTE and above is 4G, just like the ITU-R put in its definition...

This is primarily an "American" discussion since most of the rest of the world doesn't use Verizon CDMA .

 

[d123]

This is primarily an "American" discussion since most of the rest of the world doesn't use Verizon CDMA .

Just a pity he didn’t actually say that, rather than “there’s no such thing as 4G”, isn’t it?

There’s no such thing as 4G.

There most definitely is such a thing as 4G...

 

[xraydoc]

Oh, you’re one of those Americans who thinks the American use of 4G is the same as the rest of the world?

Most of the world knows LTE and above is 4G, just like the ITU-R put in its definition...

Clearly we’re discussing American services here.

 

[d123]

Clearly we’re discussing American services here.

Except this forum is international, so a direct statement like that isn’t correct when made without any form of proviso.

Don’t be that arrogant yank caricature who thinks the USA is the world and the world is the USA


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Just to add, are you saying there is no LTE service anywhere in the USA?

 

[xraydoc]

Except this forum is international, so a direct statement like that isn’t correct when made without any form of proviso.

Don’t be that arrogant yank caricature who thinks the USA is the world and the world is the USA


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Just to add, are you saying there is no LTE service anywhere in the USA?

Title of the thread references AT&T and Verizon... thus American services. You’d think non-US readers wouldn’t even bother with this thread. So this Yank is very sorry to have offended your delicate international sensitivities.

And obviously I’m not saying that there’s no LTE services in the US. In the US, 4G ≠ LTE.

What I was trying to explain is — the OP asked that if there’s no Verizon 3G capability oN his phone, would it work on Verizon 4G? I tried to explain that 3G GSM (“3G”) and 3G HSPA (“4G”) use the same chipset, thus no Verizon 4G on his phone... Again, 4G ≠ LTE, at least in the US.

Besides, Verizon doesn’t have HSPA service at all. 1x, CDMA 3G and LTE only. So doesn’t really matter.

 

[thadoggfather]

Title of the thread references AT&T and Verizon... thus American services. You’d think non-US readers wouldn’t even bother with this thread. So this Yank is very sorry to have offended your delicate international sensitivities.

And obviously I’m not saying that there’s no LTE services in the US. In the US, 4G ≠ LTE.

What I was trying to explain is — the OP asked that if there’s no Verizon 3G capability oN his phone, would it work on Verizon 4G? I tried to explain that 3G GSM (“3G”) and 3G HSPA (“4G”) use the same chipset, thus no Verizon 4G on his phone... Again, 4G ≠ LTE, at least in the US.

Besides, Verizon doesn’t have HSPA service at all. 1x, CDMA 3G and LTE only. So doesn’t really matter.

4g isn’t lte it was kinda marketing smokes and mirrors, but 4g still markedly better than 3g before they did full lte deployment.

It was like 3 And a half G

 

[jkel777]

How long you have had your iPhone?

Apple told me if I switched carriers WHILE BEING PART OF IUP, I could take AT&T phone to Apple Store and exchange AT&T 1901 model phone for Verizon 1865 model.

Otherwise, switch back. I haven’t found significant advantages to my recent switch from AT&T to Verizon phone and service, although I did see a 3G svc signal recently pop up during holiday travel thru the boonies.

You can just bring the phone back to Apple and exchange it for the A1865 CDMA model if you run into any situations where you need access to the 3G network. But like other's have said, it's basically unusable.

Good to know! If I run into any problems I might do that. So far so good. In my area I’ve noticed much better reception and speed on Verizon vs. AT&T.

 

[wildonrio]

How long you have had your iPhone?

Apple told me if I switched carriers WHILE BEING PART OF IUP, I could take AT&T phone to Apple Store and exchange AT&T 1901 model phone for Verizon 1865 model.

Sorry to revive old thread, but I’m currently battling Apple about this. They’re telling me I can’t exchange for the Verizon model. Their website says otherwise. Who told you you could do this and how do I explain to them?

 

[KPOM]

Sorry to revive old thread, but I’m currently battling Apple about this. They’re telling me I can’t exchange for the Verizon model. Their website says otherwise. Who told you you could do this and how do I explain to them?

Where does it say otherwise? The phone itself is subject to the 14 day return policy. Once you get past 12 months you can exercise your trade in option, but that’s it.

Also, Verizon has relaxed their policies, and they will activate an AT&T model on their network. You just won’t have access to their 3G network, but they are in the process of shutting it down to make room for 5G.