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This seems kinda strange to me. Presumably, these people are choosing to upgrade an older M-series MacBook Pro, not to a M5, but to a Framework 13" Pro with Ubuntu pre-loaded? Why not simply run Ubuntu in WSL under Windows 11? That way, you gets Windows apps (e.g. Office and Adobe) as well as Linux-specific code running with a small performance hit.
On macOS, you get Office and Adobe running under macOS, and most Linux-specific code can be compiled under macOS too.
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I've been on the cusp of this for a long time. I think it's people that are tired of the MacOS/Windows duopoly and want a native Linux laptop. Framework seems to do a good job of making sure the typical Linux distros work well on their hardware, but the hardware's not cheap.
 
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They aren’t providing order numbers, so even 1/3rd of 3 orders is 1 person. They also aren’t providing any details as to what model MacBook Pro people are upgrading from, these computers could be 10+ years old even. I doubt the numbers involved here are statistically significant to make the claim framework are making noteworthy.

If you want a Linux computer then a framework is a good choice. However, that’s still something like 3% of the PC market at best. There aren’t a groundswell if Mac to Framework/Linux switchers and no publicly available data supports that.
 
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Presumably, these people are choosing to upgrade an older M-series MacBook Pro, not to a M5, but to a Framework 13" Pro with Ubuntu pre-loaded?
I am in that camp, making the same consideration. Now that I've grown into 16" laptop I'm less interested in the 13 inch form though 🙁
Why not simply run Ubuntu in WSL under Windows 11?
Because they have an early M series MacBook, not Windows?!

They may want the other newer capabilities of the FW13 Pro, specifically the touchscreen.
 
Why not simply run Ubuntu in WSL under Windows 11? That way, you gets Windows apps (e.g. Office and Adobe) as well as Linux-specific code running with a small performance hit.
Maybe they don't need the apps that aren't available on Linux. Also, if enough people DID move to Linux, perhaps Adobe would feel compelled to sell them software.

It does appear that some adobe stuff is running better in later versions of wine. Well enough to replace a work mac? I doubt it. But well enough for a hobbyist? Maybe.
 
Why pay for Windows if you only need Linux? And why have two operating systems worth of bloat?
The reason to put up with Windows 11 bloat is the ability to access a vast catalog of apps.
Linux has only a small fraction of that. You get the best of both worlds by running WSL on Windows 11.
In the old days, we used to partition our drives so we could dual boot our Windows PCs.
But it was always a pain in the butt to reboot when you needed to run a Windows app.
WSL used to be flaky, but WSL2 (now just WSL) seems rock solid.
 
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