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To OP, it's your money. Spend it whatever way you want. However, I personally disagree that anything can be equal when it has Vista in it. If it's XP? Maybe, but not Vista.
I have been a PC user since the Dos days, but Vista definitely was a deal breaker.
I have been a PC user since the Dos days, but Vista definitely was a deal breaker.
I'm going Vista myself, for other reasons though.
Don't forget the resale value of Apple is much higher than PCs.
Bah, I never got into the resale of computer equipment. I think the resale value of Apple equipment is too high. I just don't see value there.
A computer equal to a Mac which does not natively run OSX is no longer equal.
Not to mention, time is money. The time saved, by me at least, by using a Mac vs a PC, adds up to far more than $1000.
LOL. Agreed. From all the issues and time trying to work with vista it's just not worth it.
The thing is, you can go buy a pc for $600.00, but it breaks after a year. All those consumer Dell, Hp, Acer, Toshiba computers just aren't built like they used to be. Trying to get them fixed is a pain in the ass. Shipping them off to their warranty depots, waiting a couple months to get it fixed. East Indian tech support. Hmmm, $600 for crappy everything, $1300 for heaven. Heaven .
That's nice and all but they OP doesn't want to spend $1,300 for your perception of the afterlife.
Vista works fine.
It's no OSX but this perception that Vista is some terrible OS is just false. I've been running vista for 2 years with almost no issues.
Vista works fine.
It's no OSX but this perception that Vista is some terrible OS is just false. I've been running vista for 2 years with almost no issues.
I think your lucky then
Vista works fine.
It's no OSX but this perception that Vista is some terrible OS is just false. I've been running vista for 2 years with almost no issues.
I 2nd that. I own a pc with windows vista ultimate and it works excellent. I've had NO problems. Vista really dosent deserve the rep it has.
To the OP, going to need a more solid budget and some idea of WHAT you want to do with the machine. A Dell will probably do you fine.
As for this business about a bad economy, blah to that, not spending money isn't going to help things any.
As for this business about a bad economy, blah to that, not spending money isn't going to help things any.
Just to add my 2 cents worth... I used Vista and never had any problems, definitely thought it was better than XP.
I have a new Macbook and a Penryn Macbook Pro, I also have a Vista desktop. I love them all.
Vista isn't bad at all guys. It has actually been very stable for me as well, stop paying attention to those commercials. We all love
products but let's be fair here.
As for the person who talked about Toshiba, HP, computers not built like they used to, I think you meant Apple instead. Apple built quality is awful, it's their design and perceived quality that people buy into. AppleCare is pretty good though, but most people don't buy the extended warranty for PCs.
Vista isn't bad at all guys. It has actually been very stable for me as well, stop paying attention to those commercials. We all love
products but let's be fair here.As for the person who talked about Toshiba, HP, computers not built like they used to, I think you meant Apple instead. Apple built quality is awful, it's their design and perceived quality that people buy into. AppleCare is pretty good though, but most people don't buy the extended warranty for PCs.
I am happy for you that you like Vista. But I do think it is a terrible OS with the permission business. Anyhow, let's not hijack the thread into a "why I like/hate Vista" debate.
Heaven: "A condition or place of great happiness, delight, or pleasure: "The lake was heaven."". I wasn't referring to the after life.
I could go on and on why it's horrible. But there are many of those threads already. But, I was mainly referring to the PC experience I and many others have had before converting, not vista.
While I don't personally own a computer with Vista, the thought of having to waste time securing the computer against malware, viruses and spyware keeps me away from looking at PCs.
Since I'm self employed, one lost day of work pays for the cost difference many times over (if there really is a cost difference, see below).
I don't think you can get a similar spec laptop as the Macbook from a PC vendor for a similar price. You also have to add the cost of the antivirus software and proper backup software.
In addition, I find the resale value of used Macs to be much higher than used PCs. You can often flip your computer every year by selling them on eBay. I often do that to make sure my machines are within the 1 yr Apple Care period, vs buying the extended warranty. Often the cost of flipping is not much more than the cost of getting the extended plan, plus I get the added performance.
Since I'm self employed, one lost day of work pays for the cost difference many times over (if there really is a cost difference, see below).
I don't think you can get a similar spec laptop as the Macbook from a PC vendor for a similar price. You also have to add the cost of the antivirus software and proper backup software.
In addition, I find the resale value of used Macs to be much higher than used PCs. You can often flip your computer every year by selling them on eBay. I often do that to make sure my machines are within the 1 yr Apple Care period, vs buying the extended warranty. Often the cost of flipping is not much more than the cost of getting the extended plan, plus I get the added performance.
Spend it on what ever you like bro. Buy a large shiny dick that runs vista, if you want! We ain't stopping you! You needn't tell the world as to how you feel.
If $1000 is a lot of money, then spend it wisely. If time is valuable, then do something constructive - What could be simpler?
Just have fun formatting your system whenever you need to reinstall a new copy of windows, cause there's been some irreversible, annoying windows
protection error, corrupted hard-drive due to virus attacks, etc.... We Mac users won't be formatting out drives in a hurry, cause we can just reinstall
the operating system, leaving our precious home folder and personal documents in tact... Where as you. Well.. you'd need to backup everything, only
to reinstall everything again!! Doesn't sound logical to me, but if that's how you feel.
GO FOR IT! Have fun!!
I have a new Macbook and a Penryn Macbook Pro, I also have a Vista desktop. I love them all.
Vista isn't bad at all guys. It has actually been very stable for me as well, stop paying attention to those commercials. We all love
As for the person who talked about Toshiba, HP, computers not built like they used to, I think you meant Apple instead. Apple built quality is awful, it's their design and perceived quality that people buy into. AppleCare is pretty good though, but most people don't buy the extended warranty for PCs.
I have no comment on vista as I haven't actually used a PC since XP, but I agree with the apple build quality. Pretty much... every other laptop I've seen has better build quality than an apple laptop.
Vista w/ SP1 is excellent, no issues at all. The poster who mentions the 'permission business' has probably spent only 5 minutes on the system, since it can be turned off very easily from the control panel. Just browse some random threads here and you will see that apple's build quality is simply awful, with excellent after-sales support that you have to pay $200-300 on top of the machine's pricetag to get.
I have to use Macs because I like Logic pro, and osx is really nice. But if you have no mac-specific application you want to use, then vista is the winner all around.
I have to use Macs because I like Logic pro, and osx is really nice. But if you have no mac-specific application you want to use, then vista is the winner all around.
