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switching........the OTHER way :(

Nice choice on the Sony. If I were going PC, I would totally get a Vaio. I totally feel you with the whole gaming issue.. I do have a PS2 and a PSP, but consoles are just not the same as PC gaming.

My iBook can't handle DOOM 3, so I'm stuck playing games from years past - No One Lives Forever 2, Deus Ex, Quake 3. Sometimes I'm tempted to get a little Shuttle PC, something that I can hide in the closet and just pull out when I have the urge to play Half-Life 2, GTA3 San Andreas..

Can't wait for Intel Macs.
 
oooooooooooook look, i don't need one of those fany pants systems that are goin to cost me 2-$3000 i was just looking for a PC, i think most of the standard PC's nowadays can handle games like bf2, F.E.A.R. and half life 2 can't they? i don't think you necissarily need a crazy system to do it....

i just want a system that will PLAY them

and i heard sony systems were great, so i thought i'd look into one
 
you dont need a crazy ass system to play new games you just need to hhave a good graphics card....

Therefore if you find a Vaio with a good graphics card then go for it....

SHadow
 
biohazard_6969 said:
oooooooooooook look, i don't need one of those fany pants systems that are goin to cost me 2-$3000 i was just looking for a PC, i think most of the standard PC's nowadays can handle games like bf2, F.E.A.R. and half life 2 can't they? i don't think you necissarily need a crazy system to do it....

i just want a system that will PLAY them

and i heard sony systems were great, so i thought i'd look into one
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It's more that assembling a PC yourself often allows you to save money, plus choose the components (and manufacturers) you want.

Then again, I'm just limping along on my 3 year old PC until I can get a Mactel PowerBook. Then all my gaming woes will be over. :p
 
ok, new question. if i were to steer clear of the viao, how about alienware, i have a nice setup planned and i heard that they are mainly for gaming.
are they ok machines?
 
andy89 said:
Whats wrong with alienware?
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Alienware isnt in retail stores. I GUESS alienware would be a better choice of any mass manufactered machines because they actually dont use generic crap in their system

HOWEVER I would still rather NOT buy an Alienware system because they are OVERPRICED.

You can definately build a way better system yourself and save a couple hundreds.

If you want to handle BF2 you need ATLEAST a 6600 nvidia card or its equivalent. You WONT be having much fun if you go any lower in the video card spectrum. BF2 takes ALOT of GPU power, if you buy some POS you wont be happy with your system.

I personally would highly recommend going with atleast 3500 64 athlon, 1gig of ram, and a 6600GT but if you can shell out the extra money get a 6800 GT. If you rather swing ATi I would say go with X800 XL for the cheaper kind or x800 XT.

For RAM and stuff you dont really need to worry about if it has the best CAS or the lowest latency. You wont really see much difference. Just get generic stuff. As long as its PC3200 and above it would be great. I have generic stuff ever since my more expensive one (2x more to be exact) burned out on me and i dont see any difference in frames.

Again make your own machine and you will be set.
 
Wako, Alienware IS in retail stores, just bestbuy though. They are FANTASTIC machines, but yes, you can build a faster machine for much less. Everyone says sony's are for gaming, but they really arent. Sony markets them as a "mutlimedia powerhouse", which they somewhat are, but dell makes FANTASTIC desktops. I am typing right now on a 3 year old Dell, and it still works GREAT. need a laptop for college though, which is why I got an iBook. This machine would still last me a good while, I can play all the current games with the exception of a small handful (I can play Hl2, BF2, etc. All fine). I bought this pc for $1500 when it came out, yet I bought a $200 warranty with it, but still, its a great price and I think its worth every penny
 
I was looking around on apple.com today and it suddenly came to me how expensive Mac desktop systems are. I got the iBook, and that to me seems like a very reasonable price, but when I look at the iMac G5, I see how much money your going to need to spend for a good apple computer. Its hard for me to see how people spend that much money on a Mac, when they can get a completely fully loaded PC for less. I understand that Macs have their good qualities, but sometimes it seems that the price is still over-the-top when compared to what you can get for that money in the PC world.
 
i don't know how to build my own computer. i need it built, period. i don't care how easy some of you will probably say it is, i don't trust myself, and theres no warranty on it if i go that way. i think alienware is my best bet fer rite now. and i think that the video card you are telling me about is far too much for me (an extra 400-odd dollars on top of my system) i can afford the processor and the amount of RAM you suggested so i hope i can get by on a ATI RADEON™ 9550SE 128MB which is the standard on the system i'm looking at. let me know if running with only 128mb of vram is jsut unacceptable or wether i should do watever it takes to get more
 
biohazard_6969 said:
due to cost restraints, needs, and wants mostly to do with power, i will be switching to the PC within a month :( i felt the need to share :(
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It was 99 degrees in NYC today and now I have to read this. Too bad the powers-that-be at PBS could not carve out a bit of time from their endless station begathon to try and raise some funds for a worthier cause -- namely, your dilemma. Good luck as you plunge back into the darker side of the universe.
 
Xbox

Jedi128 said:
Get a Mac mini man. But I can feel ur pain as a gamer.... Thats why I have a PS2, and whoever told him to buy an Xbox should check what web site they're posting to!!

I wish so much that Virtual PC would support DirectX so that I can just play games on Virtual PC (maybe this will change with intel processors since it will be easier to emulate Windoze.....)

Well, I can't say I agree with you in ur purchase, but I feel ur pain......
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I bought a Xbox and even made a thred about it. Nobody hated me or dissed for for doing so. Get the Xbox hating out of your system.
 
persianpunisher said:
Wako, Alienware IS in retail stores, just bestbuy though.
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That deal that they made was already over for atleast a year or two now. Alienware is not sold at Bestbuy anymore.
 
biohazard_6969 said:
i don't know how to build my own computer. i need it built, period. i don't care how easy some of you will probably say it is, i don't trust myself, and theres no warranty on it if i go that way. i think alienware is my best bet fer rite now. and i think that the video card you are telling me about is far too much for me (an extra 400-odd dollars on top of my system) i can afford the processor and the amount of RAM you suggested so i hope i can get by on a ATI RADEON™ 9550SE 128MB which is the standard on the system i'm looking at. let me know if running with only 128mb of vram is jsut unacceptable or wether i should do watever it takes to get more
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WARRANTIES ON PC SYSTEMS MEAN NOTHING. Most of the time any type of problems usually arise is software related (viruses, incompatibility issues, etc). Even if the hardware had a problem its usually a easy fix and most manufacterers have really good warranty on them (most manfucterers have 4 years or lifetime warranties). I had one ram that I had went bad on me after 6 years of use and since it was from crucial (lifetime warranty) they just sent me a replacement that was actually much better than the original.


If you are REALLY that much of a computer noob, get a Dell then and get their highest warranty. My friend actually messed up his computer really badly himself and Dell just immediately sent out a replacement for the old one. If you want warranty, that is what you want. I would personally NEVER get a warranty on any PC unless its a replacement like what dell has.

As for the video card you mentioned, good luck playing games on that. The latest PC games are requiring 256mb of VRAM. Even at that it doesnt really matter though. You need a better GPU. A 9550 doesnt cut it at all. That is like a super budget video card and wont be running anything nicely. I have a friend that has a 9600 xt and he has a few problems running HL2.
 
wako said:
As for the video card you mentioned, good luck playing games on that. The latest PC games are requiring 256mb of VRAM. Even at that it doesnt really matter though. You need a better GPU. A 9550 doesnt cut it at all. That is like a super budget video card and wont be running anything nicely. I have a friend that has a 9600 xt and he has a few problems running HL2.
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The video card in his post was actually even worse than the regular 9550, it's a 9550 SE, a "Special Edition" made for OEMs that are actually crippled versions of their "regular" brothers.
 
Anyone considering a P/C right now had better make sure that Windows Vista (vaporware) will be compatible with the system they purchase.

Many P/C buyers fall for the false economy of Wintel
boxen only to find out that running ANYTHING on Windows is a nightmare for the average user.

You should also strongly consider how much you really want to spend on a gaming TOY.

The average user is going to be very well covered
with an iMac G5 2.0 17" WS model.
No viruses, adware, spyware maintenance downtime
or hassles in general.

Education price of $1499 is quite reasonable for a system with this kind of quality.

You also need to consider the true cost of all the software you need to equal what Mac OSX
offers as shipped.

You can buy a loaded Chevy for far less than most
people spend on a basic Toyota, but that Toyota will generally run trouble free for many years beyond the useful life of that Chevy and still be valuable at resale.
 
FFTT said:
Anyone considering a P/C right now had better make sure that Windows Vista (vaporware) will be compatible with the system they purchase.

The average user is going to be very well covered
with an iMac G5 2.0 17" WS model.
No viruses, adware, spyware maintenance downtime
or hassles in general.
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LOL... what? Vaporware? Considering it just came out of alpha stage and just went into Beta I would say it isnt a vaporware. I would say many promises that were said for Longhorn turned out to be vaporware (ie: the so called new file system) but none the less the OS itself definately is not.

Then again the "average" user would also be very limited in softwares AND hardware.
 
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