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elvtnedge

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So I just got the 8 plus and set it up as new and downloaded all the apps etc. Because I’ve never started from scratch before with any of the apple upgrade devices, I was under the assumption that the messages I had on my old iPhone would transfer over when I opened messages on the new iPhone. That isn’t the case so it’s blank. Is there something I’m forgetting to do or is this how it us unless I would have synced the device instead of new?
 
Think about it for a moment..... If you are setting it up as a ‘New Device’ then why would you expect it to restore something from the other iPhone?
Being a new device means you want the phone to start from scratch. If you wanted to import your messages you could do so from iTunes.
 
It will eventually (at least for iMessages)

During iOS 11 beta they were testing iMessages in iCloud. It worked for some (worked for me) and didn’t work for others. It was then removed from beta and mentioned in the beta release notes to be coming back in a later update to iOS 11.

Doesn’t solve your issue now, but will eventually prevent this issue later down the road when it’s time to update phones again.
 
So I just got the 8 plus and set it up as new and downloaded all the apps etc. Because I’ve never started from scratch before with any of the apple upgrade devices, I was under the assumption that the messages I had on my old iPhone would transfer over when I opened messages on the new iPhone. That isn’t the case so it’s blank. Is there something I’m forgetting to do or is this how it us unless I would have synced the device instead of new?

If you have iTunes available, do an encrypted backup of your old device and then a restore to you new device. Everything will be there including health data, passwords and your messages.
 
Ok thanks for the replies. The reason why I don’t just do a restore was that on my 6s once I installed iOS 11 I had terrible lag and freezing. I didn’t want any corrupt issues transferring over to the new phone.
 
This is why even though some people swear against it, I always restore from a backup, and I've never had problems afterward.
 
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This is why even though some people swear against it, I always restore from a backup, and I've never had problems afterward.
I've had so many issues over the last 10 years that its a sick joke. Last year with iOS 10, my health data would not transfer back via backup. Both iTunes encrypted and iCloud. I was getting a health database error. I said fine, whatever, used my phone for a week without the health data but kept the previous backup on anyway. I was getting constant resprings, losing cellular service randomly and even more. I said okay fine, restored my 7Plus as new, everything was perfect. (I attempted reset all settings first and it didn't make a difference) This tends to be a yearly thing for me, so this year, I set it up as new and everything has been great.
 
I've had so many issues over the last 10 years that its a sick joke. Last year with iOS 10, my health data would not transfer back via backup. Both iTunes encrypted and iCloud. I was getting a health database error. I said fine, whatever, used my phone for a week without the health data but kept the previous backup on anyway. I was getting constant resprings, losing cellular service randomly and even more. I said okay fine, restored my 7Plus as new, everything was perfect. (I attempted reset all settings first and it didn't make a difference) This tends to be a yearly thing for me, so this year, I set it up as new and everything has been great.

I guess I've just been lucky. I've been restoring from my previous device since my iPhone 3Gs. The only problem I've encountered is when I set up my new 8+ the other day. Most of my apps stalled when trying to restore them, but I eventually stopped the process and started over again and everything has been perfect... Well, except that for some reason my ringtones never sync and I always have to transfer them manually.
 
I guess I've just been lucky. I've been restoring from my previous device since my iPhone 3Gs. The only problem I've encountered is when I set up my new 8+ the other day. Most of my apps stalled when trying to restore them, but I eventually stopped the process and started over again and everything has been perfect... Well, except that for some reason my ringtones never sync and I always have to transfer them manually.

This is the main reason I stay with Apple. I love the fact that I was able to transfer the entire setup of my old 6+ directly over to my new 8+ with zero missing data (except for the ringtones you mentioned). Far as I know, I don’t think you are able to do this with Android products yet.
To the OP, I had the same issues of lag and anomalies with my 6+ on IOS 11. After smashing it out of anger (it had other problems due to age and use though) and getting a couple of bum refurbs from insurance, i popped for an 8+. Other than a minor problem where the beta software versions did not match between the old phone and the new, everything transferred beautifully. Apparently the transfer is software sensitive, so keep that in mind...I had to update iTunes on my Mac, and the software on the new phone for the transfer to go through...
 
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