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System Integrity Protection Inexplicably Disabled by Default on Some New MacBook Pro Models

doctor-don said:
Is it possible for those who comment to turn on their OWN proofing before posting?

Read what you write before you select Post Reply.
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It is NOT Twitter or some other anonymous commenting social site, though.
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Of course it's not twitter or Facebook. However, people have right to feel disgruntled about issues.
 
doctor-don said:
Is it possible for those who comment to turn on their OWN proofing before posting?

Read what you write before you select Post Reply.
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It is NOT Twitter or some other anonymous commenting social site, though.
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How terrible for you that no one is lining up to kiss Apple's ass over a very bad thing. I suppose you'll do the same if an Apple car does come out and the brakes don't work or something else is wrong.
 
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justperry said:
There is no virus on OS X since the beginning OS X 10.b so I am not afraid to get one in the near future.
But, I see the sarcasme in your post.:p
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Don't be so naive. There are viruses for macOS. Just not as many as for Windows. (Which has nothing to do with the actual OS, but rather its usage/users)
 
Have a 15" BTO. 1TB and the 460 graphics.

Was enabled on mine, but I appreciate the heads-up.
 
Zellio said:
Scroll a little down and you'll find mentions of viruses FROM 2010 :rolleyes:

If you are gonna link to old links, may as well also link to that 'mac vs pc' ad from the vista days that said 'macs don't get viruses'
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Fair comment about it being old material, but there still isn't an in-the-wild virus for Mac. Trojans aren't viruses.
 
pat500000 said:
As I thought about it again...wouldn't this be okay as long as you know what you're downloading and installing? or is there more to that then installing 3rd party (non-registered) programs?
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It's not the fact that disabling SIP is huge security risk.... just don't install "strange stuff" and don't enter your admin-password if you don't expect it, etc.

BUT... if all Macs by default have SIP enabled, because Apple thinks that is much safer and more secure, then having it off / disabled by default on a MBP is not something Apple should be proud of.

This is simply a(nother..??) mistake regarding the new MacBook Pro.
 
Zellio said:
Scroll a little down and you'll find mentions of viruses FROM 2010 :rolleyes:

If you are gonna link to old links, may as well also link to that 'mac vs pc' ad from the vista days that said 'macs don't get viruses'
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Here's a quote from that same page


What is a virus?
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A computer virus is a small program written to alter the way a computer operates, without the permission or knowledge of the user. A virus must meet two criteria:

  • It must execute itself. It often places its own code in the path of execution of another program.
  • It must replicate itself. For example, it may replace other executable files with a copy of the virus infected file. Viruses can infect desktop computers and network servers alike.
The term "computer virus" is sometimes used as a catch-all phrase to include all types of malware, even those that do not have the reproductive ability. Malware includes computer viruses, computer worms, Trojan horses, most rootkits, spyware, dishonest adware and other malicious and unwanted software, including true viruses. Viruses are sometimes confused with worms and Trojan horses, which are technically different. A worm can exploit security vulnerabilities to spread itself automatically to other computers through networks, while a Trojan horse is a program that appears harmless but hides malicious functions. Worms and Trojan horses, like viruses, may harm a computer system's data or performance. Some viruses and other malware have symptoms noticeable to the computer user, but many are surreptitious or simply do nothing to call attention to themselves. Some viruses do nothing beyond reproducing themselves.
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1. It must execute itself
AND
2. It must replicate itself.

Now, there is no malware that qualifies for both on OS X, so fact is, there are no viruses for OS X until now.
 
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Makes me wonder if Apple has multiple system images at the factories or one of the factories has an outdated image. SIP is typically initially disabled when modifying sections of the OS such as /System/Library/CoreServices. I'm guessing that some part of the process either failed to reactivate SIP or was forgotten about in a version of Apple's core.
 
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Blackstick said:
Likely just a bug during the factory imaging process.
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Unlikely. This is by design.

TLDR: Drivers for the platform were not ready in time for proof testing. I suspect these Mac's run a 'special' version of Sierra. Making them another pain in the ass to generate .nbi & ultimately potentially image.

Wait.. who am I kidding - I forgot Apple do not give a tinkers cuss about the Professional/ Corporate market anymore; Haha, silly me. This is made for coffee posing hipsters!
 
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frifra said:
Just by curiosity, could you deactivate SIP, change icons and turn it back on again?
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I have no idea. I just keep it off so I don't see that "You don't have permission" pop up from finder. It's my computer you don't need to warn me about the dangers of swapping an icon
 
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Ok maybe I'm paranoid, but I find it strange that my MacBook was one of the first to prepare for shipment yet came a day later than the first batch with SIP disabled. Hmmmmm

The question is would it matter if I reformatted the hard drive, or would they have put something in the bios anyway IF something weird did happen like the android phones a while back....
 
Fresh install EL Capitan (downgrade from Sierra) on brand new MBP mid 2012 and I found it disable by default.
 

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