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Ninja_Turtle

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hey, anyone out there with the system requirements for the beta version? i have it but i dont want to install it cuz im on a 600mhz G3 iBook with 384megs RAM...anyone got any suggestions?
 
You need a Mac with a G3, G4, or G5 processor, 128MB RAM, a DVD drive, and built-in FireWire. Sounds like your iBook will work just fine. Could you let us know how the performance is on your machine? On my PB17 it's about the same as Panther.

BTW, I wouldn't recommend installing Tiger as your primary OS. It's extremely buggy and I wouldn't trust it with any data I cared about. I have it on an external FW HDD just to tinker with.

-Drew
 
Dude

If you don't know the answer to that question, you shouldn't be installing your pirated developers' version of Tiger.
 
someone said that Tiger could wipe or corrupt all the data off your HD? it wouldn't do that, right? especially if you installed onto an external FireWire HD, your main HDs data would be safe, right?
 
Tiger runs just as fast as a fresh install of Panther, on an iMac 256 RAM, 1 GHz, on an external FireWire 400 10 GB with 512K cache.
 
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appleretailguy said:
If you don't know the answer to that question, you shouldn't be installing your pirated developers' version of Tiger.

its not pirated, well anyways....theres a bug that deletes all your files? whoa!!! sounds like i dont wanna install it no more, oh yeah, can i boot os 9 if i were to install TIGER, and also can i "downgrade" to os x 10.3 ?if i dont like it?
 
Sorry

Okay, so it's not pirated. I still think it's stupid to install a developer's copy of an OS. You obviously don't know a ton about it...by the way, where did you get it?
 
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appleretailguy said:
Okay, so it's not pirated. I still think it's stupid to install a developer's copy of an OS. You obviously don't know a ton about it...by the way, where did you get it?

one of my friends is a developer and i asked him for it just to give it a try...he paid for it, and went to the conference...its not like hes selling it to me or im selling it to someone else, or putting it up on the internet
 
Quick Question

Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I know you guys are all very knowledgeable concerning everything Mac. :) I'm a bit of a developer, just some java and web applets here and there, and I'm wondering how I could obtain a beta version of Tiger. I'm new to downloading any beta versions of Apple software, and am unsure how to do so. Do I have to pay for it? How big of a download is it? Any help is appreciated, but not necessary, as it's not a huge deal. ;)
 
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Littleodie914 said:
Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I know you guys are all very knowledgeable concerning everything Mac. :) I'm a bit of a developer, just some java and web applets here and there, and I'm wondering how I could obtain a beta version of Tiger. I'm new to downloading any beta versions of Apple software, and am unsure how to do so. Do I have to pay for it? How big of a download is it? Any help is appreciated, but not necessary, as it's not a huge deal. ;)

dude i suggest you delete this immideatly...you might get banned...dont pirate things...
 
Littleodie914, i think you've got to become a ADC member. but that's no problem if you're already a developer, right?

and you can't DL it, i'm pretty sure Apple isn't offering it for DL. and you're not asking for an 'illegal' DL site are you? :eek:

also, i think the Tiger Beta that's out now is a WWDC preview. so that means it was only available to WWDC attendees, right? i think you might have missed the boat... looks like you'll have to join ADC and wait for the first developer seed.
 
Ninja_Turtle said:
dude i suggest you delete this immideatly...you might get banned...dont pirate things...

He's not trying to pirate it, he's just asking where to get it. I thought it was quite obvious that he wasn't attempting to pirate it when he asked if you have to pay anything.

Anyway, yes, you do have to pay. You need to join ADC, which I think costs $500 per year. I have no idea whether you can download the current build of Tiger yet, but future versions are bound to be added to the site.

In case you're a student, you may be tempted to go for the $100 student membership. Unfortunately, it doesn't entitle you to pre-release software. You should get the final version though (I got the final version of Panther, but unfortunately my subscription will run out before the release of Tiger).
 
Nermal said:
He's not trying to pirate it, he's just asking where to get it. I thought it was quite obvious that he wasn't attempting to pirate it when he asked if you have to pay anything.

Anyway, yes, you do have to pay. You need to join ADC, which I think costs $500 per year. I have no idea whether you can download the current build of Tiger yet, but future versions are bound to be added to the site.

In case you're a student, you may be tempted to go for the $100 student membership. Unfortunately, it doesn't entitle you to pre-release software. You should get the final version though (I got the final version of Panther, but unfortunately my subscription will run out before the release of Tiger).
Thanks, that answered my question completely. I'm only 16, and was looking to see how differently my wee java apps would work under Tiger. Guess I'll be waiting until "early 2005" to test them, as I definitely don't have $500 a year! :D And ninja_turtle, I was certainly NOT trying to pirate Tiger. I'm well aware of what software pirating does to companies, and I also know that it's a very bad (for lack of a more fitting word) thing to do. But thanks again Nermal. :)
 
Ninja_Turtle said:
one of my friends is a developer and i asked him for it just to give it a try...he paid for it, and went to the conference...its not like hes selling it to me or im selling it to someone else, or putting it up on the internet
Ninja_Turtle said:
dude i suggest you delete this immideatly...you might get banned...dont pirate things...
Duff-Man says...does anybody else see something wrong (besides the spelling) between these two posts?....oh yeah!
 
Could someone point me in the right direction for the developers version of a Dual 2.5Ghz G5? I'd just like to give it a try.

Thanks.
 
appleretailguy said:
Okay, so it's not pirated. I still think it's stupid to install a developer's copy of an OS. You obviously don't know a ton about it...by the way, where did you get it?

My, you're rather all up in his arse, aren't you? Does it really matter to you that much?

I tell you what, why don't you manage you... are we in elementary school again? "Waaa Mommy, mommy! I'm telling on you!" :rolleyes:
 
Ninja_Turtle said:
hey, anyone out there with the system requirements for the beta version? i have it but i dont want to install it cuz im on a 600mhz G3 iBook with 384megs RAM...anyone got any suggestions?

do you have the 16MB vram one or the 8MB vram one? i have the 16 and tiger is very very slightly slower than panther but it works great havent had a crash and i've used it for 3 week
 
cb911 said:
someone said that Tiger could wipe or corrupt all the data off your HD? it wouldn't do that, right? especially if you installed onto an external FireWire HD, your main HDs data would be safe, right?

thats like a warning saying apple is not responsible if that happens, like a diclaimer, it wont do anything like that (disclaimer: dont blame me if it dose install os 10.4 at your own risk) it's just apple telling people not to sue them if 10.4 screws up there mac
 
Sys req details

veedubdrew said:
You need a Mac with a G3, G4, or G5 processor, 128MB RAM, a DVD drive, and built-in FireWire.-Drew

So, tell me if I got this right: Tiger will be supported on my Mac only if it had FireWire built in from the start? (i.e. PCI FireWire added in is not enough)? So the original iMac is out of luck? Or is FireWire only required for certain cool functions, like for iMovie? iMovie runs okay on my original iMac, so long as I can get the files on my computer via CDRom or something instead of FireWire.

For that matter, could I install Tiger onto an original iMac via networked DVD drive?

Thanks!
 
CLARIFICATION

It's probably not that you need the actual functuality of firewire for tiger, but rather the capabilities of the computer that was released with firewire. earlier computers may not have enough processor speed, vram, etc...
 
eupraxist said:
So, tell me if I got this right: Tiger will be supported on my Mac only if it had FireWire built in from the start? (i.e. PCI FireWire added in is not enough)? So the original iMac is out of luck? Or is FireWire only required for certain cool functions, like for iMovie? iMovie runs okay on my original iMac, so long as I can get the files on my computer via CDRom or something instead of FireWire.

For that matter, could I install Tiger onto an original iMac via networked DVD drive?

Thanks!

They list "Firewire" as a requirement because common laymen would understand that their Mac has firewire. They could probably say "Processor Class XXXX" but that'd just be difficult. Apple just decided that Tiger ran too slowly for Macs released before firewire. Like when Jag (or was it Panther?) was advertised for any G3 Mac, a lot of people were mad when it wouldn't work fast enough on their old, old machines - so Apple offered a refund. Sure you can install Tiger on non-Firewire Macs just like you can install Panther on non-USB ones.
 
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