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It's unlimited data, but 5GB of LTE. I've never hit my monthly cap but I imagine it'd drop you to 2G. I never get anywhere close to my data cap and actually dropped it since they don't count music streaming against you, roll over unused data, and start you off with 10GB data in your "data stash" (rolled over data bank).

Awesome, thanks! And I'd assume if for some reason(which I doubt), I would need to add more data, I could change my plan at any time? I'm on Verizon now but T-Mobile is just as good in my area but cheaper, so I'm considering switching.
 
Yes... if anything, he sounds like a fun CEO to work with. I can't imagine our companies CEO using words like "BS" or "Greedy Bas#!%" in any public forum.
cause it's an act and he knows there'll be people who'll applaud him for it
 
Breaking news: TMOBILE ANNOUNCES THEY HAVE RECEPTION IN MY AREA! Woohoo time to switch, oh wait my alarm clock went off and I woke up. There's a reason they do so many of these promotions. For those of you who do get a good T-Mobile signal I'm very jealous, they seem like such a kick ass carrier. Meanwhile I'm stuck with AT&T nickel and diming my every move.
 
The reception in my area it's pretty good until I go inside.. Work, the gym, my house... I lose the service. It's unusable. It has to do with their spectrum type.
You're guessing... which typically results in misleading readers with false information.

Those who understand how cellular carriers and their networks work, know that you're in the dark about it. Let me provide you with the most basic of definitions to help out:

"Spectrum is the raw material on which wireless networks are built, and buying the spectrum now solidifies our network leadership into the future, and will enable us to bring even better 4G LTE products and services to our customers," Dan Mead, CEO of Verizon Wireless, said in a prepared statement.



source: http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/02/technology/verizon_spectrum/index.htm?iid=EAL
 
The reception in my area it's pretty good until I go inside.. Work, the gym, my house... I lose the service. It's unusable. It has to do with their spectrum type.

That was partly my issue. Standing outside the hospital both ATT and T-Mobile had strong 5 bars. Going in deep to the hospital ATT would go to 3 bars where T-Mobile would completely lose signal.
 
Sounds pretty interesting. I wonder if it'll catch on. I use a chunk of my data solely on music streaming. I'm always going over my 5gb limit.
 
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This is what I want to know as well. I'm already a T-Mobile customer but I don't have the Jump on Demand feature on my plan. I'm tempted to go in trade in my 128gb iPhone 6, get a 64GB iPhone 6 with Jump on Demand and then just swap it out for the 6S once it comes out in September.

I'm curious about the installment plans, i.e. if every time I swap phones, the installment plans resets and I have to start paying it again. My experience with the store associates is that they are not very informed, so I don't really trust asking them.


From what I understand, it is like leasing a car. Once you trade in your old device for the new one, the old contract stops, and the new one begins.
 
From what I understand, it is like leasing a car. Once you trade in your old device for the new one, the old contract stops, and the new one begins.
Correct. Each time you need to pay the upfront cost, whether it's $100 or $200.
 
Unfortunately this is out of their hands. They don't have the cash to outbid Verizon and att when the FCC does spectrum auctions. T-Mobile literally can't afford a better network. T-Mobile doesn't have the 700mhz spectrum that is good at penetrating walls so that's why they aren't as good in cities or in your house.

They do too have some 700 megahertz spectrum. They purchased some from Verizon. I know this because it was in the news, they've started a nationwide rollout where they have licenses for it - and I was told by somebody who works in Legere's office (who will remain anonymous, just know he called me because I emailed Legere about my problems) that the cell tower four miles away from my house here in NW Ohio is being upgraded from EDGE to 700 megahertz LTE. :)
 
Correct. Each time you need to pay the upfront cost, whether it's $100 or $200.
There appears to be some dispute on that issue. Some posters have claimed that you only pay the $100 premium for a 64gb model once, not every time you trade in, since you are trading in a more valuable phone for your next 64gb iPhone.
 
One question if anyone knows: I currently don't have a phone / carrier and need new service (long story, my employer provides my current phone). Anyway, can I still take advantage of the $15 deal? I have a couple of really old blackberrys laying around that the kids play with - will they take those as a trade in? Will any old "smartphone" work as a trade in? The details aren't clear online.
 
One question if anyone knows: I currently don't have a phone / carrier and need new service (long story, my employer provides my current phone). Anyway, can I still take advantage of the $15 deal? I have a couple of really old blackberrys laying around that the kids play with - will they take those as a trade in? Will any old "smartphone" work as a trade in? The details aren't clear online.
I was told in store yesterday- ANY smart phone. They made the ANY clear.
 
There appears to be some dispute on that issue. Some posters have claimed that you only pay the $100 premium for a 64gb model once, not every time you trade in, since you are trading in a more valuable phone for your next 64gb iPhone.
the store manager I spoke with seems pretty confident in his assertion that you pay the $100/200 capacity upgrade up front every time. I've asked him several times and even showed him the website where it says "comparable device."

One question if anyone knows: I currently don't have a phone / carrier and need new service (long story, my employer provides my current phone). Anyway, can I still take advantage of the $15 deal? I have a couple of really old blackberrys laying around that the kids play with - will they take those as a trade in? Will any old "smartphone" work as a trade in? The details aren't clear online.
The phone needs to meet the following criteria.

1. Powers on
2. Not cracked or broken
3. Not water damaged

4. If iPhone, no activation lock must be off
 
Does the Hospital have Wi-Fi? I bet it does. Problem solved.

There's a solution which inspires confidence. Unfortunately it wouldn't solve the dropped calls and pockets of poor reception when traveling. Although it's been about a year since I tried Tmobile, have they really improved their reception in the last year? I'd love to switch to them, but just encountered so many reception issues when I had them.
 
You seemed to have missed the point.

Netflix paying internet providers so they allow less-throttled Netflix speeds (not even full speeds!) is a BIG net-neutrality issue.

Paying for what you use isn't.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned a socialistic mindset, but I couldn't think of any other way to describe what you appear to be saying. Am I missing something? That is your mindset here, right? If so, I must say that for whatever good you see in socialism, there are plenty of problems that go with it (both in theory and in practice).
"Paying for what you use isn't"

Netflix paying off the bribe isn't something they will do out of their own pockets...
Where does Netflix's money come from? Ultimately always the customer.

And the US is a socialist state, much like any other "1st world nation" (don't like the term, but for lack of a better one...).

If you stripped the socialism part of these nations things would hardly get any better.
But that's getting too off-topic I assume.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Awesome, thanks! And I'd assume if for some reason(which I doubt), I would need to add more data, I could change my plan at any time? I'm on Verizon now but T-Mobile is just as good in my area but cheaper, so I'm considering switching.
Yeah, you can switch any time, including to and from unlimited.
 
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You're guessing... which typically results in misleading readers with false information.

Those who understand how cellular carriers and their networks work, know that you're in the dark about it. Let me provide you with the most basic of definitions to help out:

"Spectrum is the raw material on which wireless networks are built, and buying the spectrum now solidifies our network leadership into the future, and will enable us to bring even better 4G LTE products and services to our customers," Dan Mead, CEO of Verizon Wireless, said in a prepared statement.

source: http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/02/technology/verizon_spectrum/index.htm?iid=EAL

.........He's actually 100% correct... and not guessing... and those that know how cellular carriers and networks work, know he's right.

You picked a very terrible quote as the entire basis of your response to him, which in no way explains what spectrum is outside of the fact it's needed - and that's where your understanding stops. There's different frequencies, and blocks within those frequencies, that are used for cellular service. T-Mobile uses PCS (1900 mhz, Band 2) and AWS (1700/2100, uplink/downlink, Band 4)... These are considered mid-spectrum bands, and are good for short distances and don't penetrate deep into buildings well.

Verizon & AT&T have PCS and AWS as well, sure... but they also have CLR (850 mhz, Band 5) and 700 mhz (the auction a few years back, Verizon with Upper C - Band 13 - nationwide, and AT&T lower B & C - Band 17 - nationwide). The lower the spectrum, the better the distance covered, the better the building penetration. This is why it's so vital for companies to have these lower frequencies.

Sprint has an enormous amount of PCS and are the exclusive owners EBS/BRS (2500/2600 mhz, Band 41 for them)... but the problem with 2500 mhz on up... is wet leaves, literally, lower your signal while standing outside... the same rules apply to your WiFi router and why 5 ghz wifi doesn't have the distance 2.4 ghz does in your own house... Sprint also bought Nextel, the sole owner of 800 mhz spectrum (Band 26) in the US... and their recent upgrades have focused on putting 1x Advanced for voice on this nationwide.

This is also why T-Mobile spent so much money on Verizon and AT&Ts 700 Block A spectrum... spectrum that has hard conditions to be met because of interference with UHF Channel 51 wherever it exists. Very real exclusion zones where it can't be deployed at all... they need lower spectrum bands to improve their coverage. Another huge issue is the lack of Band 12 (700, Lower A/B/C) devices, which is being remedied by AT&T shifting from 17 to 12 with future devices. You may also have noticed they are already active in the discussion around the new auction that are being prepared for next year... and why they want such tight controls on companies that already own a lot of lower band spectrum....
 
They do too have some 700 megahertz spectrum. They purchased some from Verizon. I know this because it was in the news, they've started a nationwide rollout where they have licenses for it - and I was told by somebody who works in Legere's office (who will remain anonymous, just know he called me because I emailed Legere about my problems) that the cell tower four miles away from my house here in NW Ohio is being upgraded from EDGE to 700 megahertz LTE. :)
Nice! I hope they can keep the edge to lte rollout going quickly. I thought I saw that all of their edge should be upgraded to lte by the end of the year.
 
I cannot stand people that start out a reply with "Wrong." Could you be any more rude? The Jump On-Demand program is a LEASE program with an option to purchase the phone at the end. It is designed for customers to upgrade their phones at least once a year (up to 3 times a year). If you intend on keeping the phone and not upgrading annually, then don't do this program. Buy the phone outright or choose another financing option. And you want them to pay off your phone, but then let you keep it? Come on.

I said you were wrong, because you are. I'm NOT doing Jump on Demand. I'm NOT leasing the phone. The rep at the T-Mobile said I would be doing a standard installment plan, NOT leasing. What part of this are you not understanding? This is my last post with this thread, as the T-Mobile fandom can not seem to grasp what I'm trying to say.

Also, on their in ads it says in the fine print that a new purchase is required, but they advertise heavily that they will pay off your phone switch. It's just marketing and I fell for it and went to the T-Mobile store. Also, when I first went in, the rep said "you trade in, but we'll give you brand new phone!". It took 20 minutes for the her to tell me I paying $850 in installments again after I had to think about it and ask. All the while hearing "new phone! new phone!" It's not that big of a deal, I'm just weighing my options with the my own money.
 
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John Legere is the man "...AT&T those greedy bastards, did you see that they increased their fees again with a $15 activation fee for their upgrade program"

lol, gotta love this guy.
Yeah, love the way this guy puts it all out there! I'd change to tmobile in a second but Im locked in and I don't think their coverage is that good up here in Maine, but I'll check it out!
 
Sell the iPhone and pick up a cheapo to trade in. They give you no credit for the phone you're trading in on the Jump on Demand $15 iPhone plan. You're "subsidizing" the cost of the phone discount through the trade in. If it wasnt the JOD plan, then yes, better phone = more credit. I gave them an old flip phone.

They do give you credit for the phone you are trading in. For example, the iPhone 6+ is supposed to be $19/month, but I am paying $17.58 because I traded in an iPhone 5. If you trade in an iPhone 6 or 6+, your monthly lease payment will be lower than what is advertised because they give you a credit and apply it to your bill monthly. Now, I am not saying that they will give you as much as you could get on CL, but they do give you credit and the $15 is just a max payment.

There seems to be two different answers here regarding the $15 iPhone promotion.

I think we were talking about two different things. I was saying that you can still get the $15 promo today on an iPhone 6 and upgrade later. The other poster was saying that if you upgrade later you may not get the $15 promo on the next phone. Both are true. They will give you a promo on the next iPhone but that will not continue forever probably.

Don't forget jump is also insurance for your devices.

Not for on-demand. You have to pay $8/month for insurance for on-demand. Regular Jump has a $10 fee that includes insurance.

Since Jump! On Demand makes no sense for 64/128GB iPhones, I'll be passing. Who wants to pay an upfront cost of $100 or $200 each time you trade in a phone, even if you've previously paid money upfront.

Only makes sense if you use low capacity phones.

This. A total deal breaker for sure.

The 64GB phone costs $100 more than the 16GB phone. Do you want them to pay that for you? Come on. They could offer to let you include that $100 in the lease payments over 18 months, but would that change your mind? You are just paying the $100 upfront instead of in the payments. It's not like it is unfair or something.

I think you misunderstand the program. If I was willing to accept only 16GB iPhones, I would never make a down payment. Notice how the plan says nothing down not even tax. The $100 to $200 is ONLY if I want a 64GB or a 128GB iPhone as they cost $100 to $200 more and your lease will be based on the $649 cost of that 16GB phone.

Exactly.
 
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