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I still have the unrealistic hope that an unlocked apple phone will support T-Mobile. I know it's not going to happen anytime soon. Maybe with the iPhone 5....
 
The reason I say so is because the iPhone 4S's carrier support is based on a digital signal processor, and it really shouldn't be more than a matter of firmware/software to instruct the DSP to use T-Mobile's required 1700 MHz frequency. (The 2100 MHz frequency is already there).

I doubt it's a matter of software. To support specific bands the phone antenna has to be designed to work on that band, and the phone has to include a power amplifier for the band. It's not just 'DSP software'...

I guess trying to add that extra band is too much of a hassle and design compromises for Apple to bother.
 
Spire

When you mentioned that Spire runs on the right frequencies, and their roaming is handled by Verizon's network I laughed cuz I had just heard the same thing by a friend of mine who works at the Apple store.
 
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How is this possible? Here in Hungary T-Mobile sells iPhone-s since years, and they work perfectly on 3G network. Right this time we can also preorder iPhone 4S, and the phone's gonna launch here on 28th October. As a matter of fact T-Mobile was the only carrier for years where we could by any iPhone in Hungary (not even Vodafone supporrted it). Is there perhaps a different technology in the US?
 
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How is this possible? Here in Hungary T-Mobile sells iPhone-s since years, and they work perfectly on 3G network. Right this time we can also preorder iPhone 4S, and the phone's gonna launch here on 28th October. As a matter of fact T-Mobile was the only carrier for years where we could by any iPhone in Hungary (not even Vodafone supporrted it). Is there perhaps a different technology in the US?

T-Mobile USA uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the rest of the world which is why iPhones only work on EDGE.
 
Dear T-Mobile,

You don't have 4G. Stop pretending that you do.

Sincerely,
Dean

PS. You too AT&T, but this article's not about you.
 
Frankly, people sticking with AT&T or Verizon do it simply because they don't know any better.

Or better service/device support where they are located.
Also AT&T/Verizon are getting real 4G much quicker. Frankly I think AT&T has the bet set up, getting LTE this year and already has HSPA+, which gives them the fastest iPhone with easy.

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Dear T-Mobile,

You don't have 4G. Stop pretending that you do.

Sincerely,
Dean

PS. You too AT&T, but this article's not about you.

Frankly AT&T would be fools not to, if T Mobile is going to market their HSPA+ as 4G, AT&T shouldn't sit back and be the only carrier not marketing 4G despite investing in both HSPA+ and LTE.

User should do more research or ask more questions, as the term 4G or 3G don't give much use. Verizon's 3G is much slower then AT&T's. It's a shame the US government didn't push GSM in the US, we could have had European system with all GSM networks with the same bands, and let the carriers compete on prices. Now if you're bought a device one carrier, it's mostly only good for them.(Outside of a few exemptions like iPhones, newer Nokia devices or any GSM carrier if you don't care about 3G

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How is this possible? Here in Hungary T-Mobile sells iPhone-s since years, and they work perfectly on 3G network. Right this time we can also preorder iPhone 4S, and the phone's gonna launch here on 28th October. As a matter of fact T-Mobile was the only carrier for years where we could by any iPhone in Hungary (not even Vodafone supporrted it). Is there perhaps a different technology in the US?

T Mobile in the US uses different radio frequencies for their 3G, I'm not totally sure of the reason, but I assume they couldn't get access to the bands AT&T had. So Apple hasn't made a device for T Mobile's 3G as only T Mobile and Wind in Canada use them(and a few small MVNOs)
 
Given how much I'm enjoying my Mango phone, I should see about one of them on TMO. It gives up nothing that I can find to to my old iPhone except app count, and it either has all the apps I need or there are websites that handle it.
 
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BlackBerry smartphones, fast 4G network, and competitively priced worry-free unlimited talk, text, and data plans, we believe it's a great time to be a T-Mobile customer."
 
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Major shame the iPhone doesn't support T-Mobile. Their rates blow away the three that have it and some plans are even cheaper than similar options on Virgin Mobile. I'd love to get an iPhone but with T-Mobile I can get two lines with unlimited calling, unlimited text, and 2 gigs of data per line (high speed, after that data is throttled so no overage charges) for $99. The same thing on ATT would be $115 for a single line, $199 for two (twice as much). The option on T-Mobile doesn't include a phone subsidy so I'll be buying a couple phones, but with a savings of $1200 per year I'm OK with that.

It would be great to be able to buy an iPhone to work with that plan, unfortunately since that's not an option I'm looking at Android. And this is from someone who has owned macs his whole life, has an iPad and AAPL stock. I guess we'll see what happens with the iPhone 5.
 
Yep. I like T-Mobile the best, too. I use a couple of Nexus S on it, and it costs me about $100 less per month than 2 iPhones did on AT&T.

Frankly, people sticking with AT&T or Verizon do it simply because they don't know any better. ;)

Or, we're not willing to settle for Android and don't mind paying for better service on our iPhones :rolleyes:
 
The day after the 4S introduction I manged to exchange a few emails with the TMO Marketing Chief.

He said TMO is desperately trying to get iPhone, but for whatever reason Apple is not inclined.

I am inclined to believe they could not make a sweet enough deal like Sprint did ($20 bil) to get Apples attention, or maybe they pissed SJ off with Apple like commercials?

Whatever, but TMO simply seems shut out this time around. :(
 
We can at least put to rest the theory that AT&T, by pulling the strings over at T-Mobile, have effectively said no to Apple on the iPhone.

Possible, but would that help AT&T?
Those leaving TMO may go Sprint or Verizon and not ATT.

Maybe because T-Mobile will not agree to buy a minimum number of iPhones like Verizon and Sprint did. You will never see a T-Mobile iPhone until T_Mobile agrees to guarantee some money (which they will not since T-Mobile USA wants to be sold).

Considering how much Sprint put up for iPhone offering ($20 bill / years), plausible explanation.

The chip in iPhone can support the TMO frequency, but apparently is not enabled, and the antennas are not optimized from what others have posted.
iPhone to be so close to supporting TMO, but not, opens door for speculation.


I bet what is really gnawing on TMO is 4S can easily run on just about any network, except yours. It is like having your exclusive club card revoked.
 
yeah, but reception would still be better than ATT in and a mile around my house. a block of wood has better reception on T-Mobile than any phone on ATT here in Cambridge.:mad:

When my GF was on T-Mobile, whenever she doesn't have reception, I can call and get the web. She just got a 4S.

Not sure what part of cambridge you are in but I have no problem when I visit Boston / Cambridge with my AT&T iPhone.
 
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