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T-Mobile 'Binge On' Adds YouTube, Google Play Movies, and More

hobspain said:
1) there's zero chance that all the content providers in BingOn are not paying the operator a fee to have the privilege of having unlimited access to their customers. Providers have to be paying T-Mobile somehow.

2) if it issue under discussion was the waste of higher resolution video on mobile devices T-Mobile could reward *any* content provider that enforces certain lowered quality video when streaming to mobile devices of their network by not counting this traffic into their users. Not gonna happen.

3) it is obvious that having a flat rate of anything makes you consume more. Even at lowered quality, the amount of video traffic consumed will multiply. As we know, mobile network bandwidth is limited (much more than fixed) and it cannot be increased easily nor quickly. This will mean that other traffic will suffer. It's yet to be seen if this other traffic is throttled down or everything will start to stutter.
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MrXiro said:
Google Play Music was already on the list for TMo's Music Freedom. It's not THAT big of a surprise unless you're not good at putting obvious facts together.
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No need to be so rude about it or attempt to goad me into something that the mods need to intervene.



I was NOT Aware Google Play Music on Music Freedom. The issue at hand here though is video NOT Music and fairly certain that Google ( not unlike other companies that have multiple areas they deal with ) keeps parts of their business segmented ergo Google Play/Google Play music may not necessarily have ANY Bearing on YouTube

lordofthereef said:
Google issue was that t-mobile was compressing video regardless of whether it was a partners video and we're not very clear about it. They were absolutely right to question this and t-mobile, as a result, changed their user agreement.

As far as why they weren't on the list from the beginning, I've tried my best to explain that above. There were a few articles that covered this when the service was first announced, so I'm lead to believe they're factual. Difficult to find them now (Else is link) since there have been many subsequent press releases and news stories regarding binge on.
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I provided the best source I could find (T-mobile own press release) above, though I read a few articles early on that claimed the same.

As far as t-mobile charging in the future, I agree that would be a concern, but I feel like that's something to take issue with if that does happen. I personally feel like there isn't much sense in going down the "what if route", because there really isn't a reason to think this is going to happen

among other things this is a way to lessen the load on towers. Simply having binge on turned on lessens the load in all forms of video and providers that opt in are able.ro give tmobike the information necessary to further optimize said video.
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I'm aware of what Google's issues were and I agree with Google and you. Just slightly surprised they did a 180
 
iOSFangirl6001 said:
No need to be so rude about it or attempt to goad me into something that the mods need to intervene.
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Edit: wow I misread. I thought you were telling me I was attempting to start something and was beyond confused. Apologies. I'd have just deleted the post if I could.

As far as responding to your actual response, I'm unsure Google really did a 180. They simply didn't appreciate the way tmobile was handling all video feeds without telling their customers. I can only imagine they brought this up to tmobile on the first.place before going public and tmobike said they didn't see an issue with it. From the sound of early press releases and information about binge on it seems Google had every intention of joining from the get go, it just took them a bit to set things up in a way that t-mobile servers are able to 100% identify and compress incoming streams.

Some of this is conjecture, but I've tried following the evolution of this program as best I could for various reasons, not the least of which include YouTube being a top bandwidth user in our household due to my son's viewing habits. Saved me $30 a month from jumping to unlimited. Can't complain. :)
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OneMike said:
Binge on defaulted to "on" for my device a few months ago. I didn't think it was at first as there were two screens where it shows the binge status. The initial said it was off.

I was literally ready to cancel t-mobile. Everything was beyond slow. Digging around I found another option and things were back to normal.
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Are you talking videos or your Internet in general? I'd say your results are rather atypical, regardless. Glad you got it sorted though. I agree. Default on was a poor move. Particularly for people that weren't newly signing up for service.
 
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lordofthereef said:
Are you talking videos or your Internet in general? I'd say your results are rather atypical, regardless. Glad you got it sorted though. I agree. Default on was a poor move. Particularly for people that weren't newly signing up for service.
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It was both for me. Video was unwatchable. Web felt like I was back on 3G. Audio would play about 10 seconds then pause then play another few seconds then repeat.
 
lordofthereef said:
Edit: wow I misread. I thought you were telling me I was attempting to start something and was beyond confused. Apologies. I'd have just deleted the post if I could.
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It's fine.
You're forgiven lets resume being pro Apple that is after all mainly why we are MR Users after all? ( hopefully )
 
Anyone know how exactly this applies? I'm curious if it works for:

-YouTube app only
-YouTube mobile website in Safari/Chrome
-Embedded YouTube videos on others sites

It would be fantastic if ALL of these were zero-rated.
 
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