TIL, Google also founded the government.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-lobbying-idUSKBN0NC1UO20150421
Edit: guess the sarcasm was a bit missed here
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TIL, Google also founded the government.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-lobbying-idUSKBN0NC1UO20150421
Edit: guess the sarcasm was a bit missed here
I'm a filmmaker, and I'm happy to stream drama in 480p on a 60" LCD.
To be honest, most shows are just talking heads, and it doesn't really make a difference to the entertainment experience. I would rather use less data and not have to wait for buffering.
Also, 'I can't believe people still think [OPINION DIFFERENT FROM MINE], because it's [CURRENT YEAR]!', arguments are intellectually dishonest and logically retarded.
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Which, unless viewed on the same size screen that the side-by-side was taken, demonstrates nothing.
isn't pixel clarity relative to screen size?
so 480p would equally as good on a 5 inch screen as a 1080p look on a 42 inch screen ?
DVD quality video on an iphone probably looks like 4K
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instead of having to compromise on quality, why not just upgrade the infrustracture. The technology exists and then everyone will be happy. I heard South Korea and Japan don't have to deal with this limited bandwidth stuff.
so 480p would equally as good on a 5 inch screen as a 1080p look on a 42 inch screen ?
DVD quality video on an iphone probably looks like 4K
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instead of having to compromise on quality, why not just upgrade the infrustracture. The technology exists and then everyone will be happy. I heard South Korea and Japan don't have to deal with this limited bandwidth stuff.
Yeah, no....
Quit trolling. That's totally falsified comparison. On a 5.5 inch screen, 480p will look just fine.
Yep been saying this for awhile now especially every time TMO gets caught up in controversy lately. Johnny boy is good for convienently ignoring things or arguing the very "semantics" he so vehemently seems to oppose in the video, and his letter/blog
Finally someone who sees at least some of John's attitude for what it is. Thumbsup to you Ryan. He's rubbed me the wrong way for some time now. Also have heard disturbing things about their CEO's past that of course are ignored or swept under the rug.
( see above replies then let me add )
Yep totally skirting around the issues, still convinced there's hidden and not so hidden agenda's over at Team Magenta
The sad parts here is he has quite successfully deceived or brainwashed several MR members, at least 30% of the commenters on this thread alone and probably 60 to 80% of his customer base!
All these "innovative" "Uncarrier moves" may seem nice at face value
But like "Binge On Optimization" and calling themselves an "Uncarrier"
Tis all ( more or less ) the same thing by a different name. Gimmicks, Gimmicks and more gimmicks.'
"Used car salesman" is a good way to put it. Not that other carriers don't do the salesman spheal but John is like crazy good at it. People buy into the carisma, gimmicks, care free uncensored in your face CEO attitude, and always has an out or answer for everything persona.
Anyway have a good night donkey.
To quote Shrek( I think )
"Ya done good Donkey ya done good"
Last Nov T-Mobile basically doubled their data. You can get 4 lines of unlimited for 180 a month, that is $45 per line. I won't lie, their uncarrior get rid of subsidy thing has caused my prices to increase but I guess that was inevitable. Carriers weren't gonna be subsidizing Apple for the rest of eternity. T-Mobile has the best data rates by far and they were working on improving service (700mhz spectrum). So when you look at the facts, T-Mobile is definitely the best carrier when it comes to their customers.
Until you know they recently upped prices again and that promo wasn't offered forever. Plus that's great for families but not all customers need/want multiple lines
That aside to be fair ( and I've stated this in other threads before)
ATT has steadily bumped up their data offerings and has done double data and the like before.
They're in the midst of Double Data or bonus data to loyal customers right now
( some getting 5 to 40 plus extra GB/mo )
Haven't seen VZW do much for customers and Sprint is focused on oh switch to us we'll cut you bill in 1/2
( while giving you crappier service and non comparable features ) and match your data plan cap ( but you won't enjoy rollover, or the fancy extras you had elsewhere)
**Uncarrier
Points for honesty. I'll give you credit on that. The subsidy thing is sad but true and does suck. Mainly wish TMO coulda held off on that move a little longer but oh well... That's neither here nor there.
These points are arguably debatable.
Just search Twitter and or FaceBook I assure you you'll find at least a few customers who don't view T-Mobile as "best" or "best for their customers"
Heck even in MR ( MacRumors ) there's likely an unhappy TMO customer or 2
Does it let you change to higher resolutions without having to completely disable Binge On? If not, it's clearly an attack from T-Mobile on non-partners. If so, then I suppose it's alright. Edit: No, it's still not alright anyway because it's giving preference to certain video sites.
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No that's just a part of why people are having issues with it. It's basically all or nothing
"Binge on" Enabled = ALL Video "Optimized" ( modified/quality reduced etc ) but partners don't count against your data.
"Binge on" disabled = watch whatever unfiltered unmodified in ANY Quality options you choose that the content provider offers... But.. It will all count against your data use...
Ok, that's upsetting then. I personally wouldn't mind all my YouTube videos playing in 480p, especially if it means I get everything else free, but anything where the ISP is working with some sites and AGAINST others is really nasty. It totally looks like they're penalizing Google for not being their partner, or something along those lines. It's not only a violation of net neutrality, but it's one of the violations I'd actually care about. The ISP shouldn't be messing with how you use websites. So yeah, I'd use Binge On, but I hate the precedent it sets.
And this CEO bothers me because he successfully comes off as genuine (except for his "massive innovation" comment), but I seriously doubt he is. It's even worse than the guys who don't even try. "Un-carrier", yeah right. He managed to make T-Mobile look like the evil-fighting company, just like what Google does. Ticks me off.
This exactly. A few years ago, we stopped using Amazon Instant Video because Verizon, our home ISP, was blatantly throttling them. Stuff wouldn't load within any reasonable amount of time on our 30mbps connection, and I have a hard time believing Amazon's servers were that slow. We switched to using Verizon's pay-per-view because it was objectively the better option for us, even though we were annoyed.
So Binge On sounds great for the consumers, but it's bad in the end if stuff like this continues, even for the consumers. It's devious because people are going to love Binge On. It's a great service to have. T-Mobile will have a great public opinion about them for doing this.
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Unless you hold that phone realy realy close to your eyes this your statement is simply wrong.
Picture Quality (the part of it that is dependant on resolution, there are many other factors but those have nothing to do with resolution so those are mute here) depends on how many dots cover a certain area of your field of view.
In other words: the smaller the screen or the further away the screen is the less a viewer benefits from a higher resolution.
The math behind this boils down to angular resolution (the number of pixels per degree of the viewers field of view)
For a very easy approach to this you can check out http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/size-to-distance-relationship
which gives a good overview.
That is the whole idea behind retina displays...you calculate the typical viewing distance and increase the resolution to a point where the human eye can no longer recognize a higher resolution (or as apple implements it differentiate between pixels, which is close but not exactly the same)
To get back to your statement:In your "equation" there is one factor missing...
Just because Google and Facebook support the EFF (which I also strongly support, full disclosure) doesn't mean (or prove) the EFF was founded by Google, nor does it mean FB and Google are using the EFF as an attack dog or have any control over the EFF in any way.
Also, there was nothing in either article to demonstrate how the Verge is Google's attack dog.
You're really bad with supporting your misinformed opinions with actual facts, jack
I'm really bad? You don't provide any fact, and I'm the one that's really bad?
The fact is that they are, either you like it or not.
The Verge IS Google's attack dog.
For example, when Tim Cook spoke to EPIC about privacy.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/3/8718011/Tim-cook-brings-a-knife-to-a-cloud-fight-first-click
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/2/8714345/tim-cook-epic-award-privacy-security
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/5/8737537/apple-music-and-the-terrible-return-of-drm (Google also uses DRM, as much as Apple does)
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/29/9413655/apple-privacy-policy-battle-google
Sorry, Nilay Patel
Humble question un-humbly asked:
What's this thing with middle-aged and over Yanks dressing up like kiddies? I am referring to this T-Mobile bloke wearing t-shirt and hoodie, as if he were 30 years younger. That bald bloke from Beats does it too. Do they seriously look OK to people in US? Are most adult men in US walking around dressed in adolescent clothing?
What's this thing with middle-aged and over Yanks dressing up like kiddies? I am referring to this T-Mobile bloke wearing t-shirt and hoodie, as if he were 30 years younger. That bald bloke from Beats does it too. Do they seriously look OK to people in US? Are most adult men in US walking around dressed in adolescent clothing?
That BS drop really caught me off guard. I couldn't imagine other Wireless CEOs talking that way - It definitely seems to be working for Tmobile though.
Check out his response to the EFF question then:
https://twitter.com/EFF/status/685199019161726976
Ignorant deflective answer and honestly he was a bit on a downward spiral yesterday. Not his finest moment and I am sure a PR person (if he has one?) was anxious to take his phone away. But hopefully after a good nights rest he feels better.
TMO knows their customers and yes most of us are there b/c we care about the bottom line... cost. If any member of my family can continue to watch videos after they have emptied their data plan that is wonderful(Yes TMobile throttles your data back when you've used it all but my guess is that video will work better on this throttled line b/c it is less data)... even more nice is that my kids are less likely to empty their data plan. And yes we benefit as well as Tmobile (Less data distributed for those customers that are happy with their service the way it is provided). This is capitalism working for both consumer as well as the vendor and I bet that if TMobile can explain their benefits well enough than they will get the benefit of more customers.
ALSO as you comment on this it would be nice to know if you are a tmobile customer or not.
ALSO as you comment on this it would be nice to know if you are a tmobile customer or not.
it's internet fast lanes or free lanes for partners, FCC should be all over it.
I can appreciate people like free things but it's a cost that is absorbed elsewhere and is a dangerous precedent to set.
It's not about control or implementation or opt in or out. It's merely about offering some data at cost and some data at no cost. That is very very dangerous.
I can appreciate people like free things but it's a cost that is absorbed elsewhere and is a dangerous precedent to set.
It's not about control or implementation or opt in or out. It's merely about offering some data at cost and some data at no cost. That is very very dangerous.
When it comes to John or even to ANY Business/Company offering ANYTHING I feel it best to take it with skepticism and a dash of cynicism
1st off you almost never truly get something for nothing. Someone somewhere somehow is paying for it be it customers using less subsidizing those using more w/o knowing or the company digging into its profit margin/bottom line until they feel they no longer can and either raise prices ( TMO has done so somewhat recently) or take away perks and cap things
2nd even if a company acts like things are "for the good of the customers" always always ANY business to survive and profit has to look at $$$ signs if it benefits the customers and brings in more great but profit is a key part of business and capitalism TMO can act like the fighter of evil, the best innovator ever and an "Uncarrier" all day everyday but if anyone thinks profit isn't a motive and a business cares only and solely for the customers in this day and age they're sorely mistaken.
That mentality is more befitting of an early 1900s era where the phrase "the customer is always right" actually meant something and businesses prided themselves more on customer service and pleasing/pandering to the customers
Nowadays it's more about how can we profit from the consumer and trick them into being happy and accepting what we spoon feed them as gospel.
Overall I agree with you Sudo.
**older
Can't speak to all middle aged or older
but for those 2 CEO's I would say it's part of their persona to:
A) Try and look younger
B) Desperately appeal to a younger demographic of customers not just 30 to 60 plus customers
Or maybe it's a midlife crisis thing lol
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Apparently yes he does...
Exactly! Although implementation and opt out vs opt in is still part of the issue and yet separate issues in and of themselves
I mostly agree though
yes this is a dangerous precedent to set and a very slippery slope
ATT has gotten some scrutiny before over "Sponsored Data" so of course "Binge on" should be scrutinized and vetted from every possible angle
All of these people complaining about 480p quality on the iPhone obviously has never seen it or used Binge-On. I stream Netflix on my daily commute to catch up with my TV Shows (can usually get 2 episodes out of the way per day). The video quality with Binge-On has not bothered me once (it actually doesn't really look any different than HD).
In fact, I suffer none of the buffering or lag that people speak of (probably people who don't actually use T-Mobile and Binge-On, or have poor service reception complaining). My experience has been great. It's a bit blurry for the first ~5 seconds, and then clears right up (looks great). I've never once had a stream stop for buffering, even on YouTube (which is also lowered to 480p when Binge-On is enabled).
I can't say the same for when I used to view HD quality on AT&T. Streaming YouTube or Netflix was almost unbearable with the constant pauses on HD.
In fact, I suffer none of the buffering or lag that people speak of (probably people who don't actually use T-Mobile and Binge-On, or have poor service reception complaining). My experience has been great. It's a bit blurry for the first ~5 seconds, and then clears right up (looks great). I've never once had a stream stop for buffering, even on YouTube (which is also lowered to 480p when Binge-On is enabled).
I can't say the same for when I used to view HD quality on AT&T. Streaming YouTube or Netflix was almost unbearable with the constant pauses on HD.