Yeah, you’re right. It’s time to find a SSN replacement.We’re at the point in which we need something other than the SSN and a law that prevents companies from requiring it.
Yeah, you’re right. It’s time to find a SSN replacement.We’re at the point in which we need something other than the SSN and a law that prevents companies from requiring it.
Notice the subtle difference between the message you got and mine .I got this message a few minutes ago from T-Mobile. I suspect another message will come later contradicting this one and saying financial information was compromised too. Thankfully I keep my credit frozen, so not as big of a deal as it could be.
Welcome to the club.I got this message a few minutes ago from T-Mobile. I suspect another message will come later contradicting this one and saying financial information was compromised too. Thankfully I keep my credit frozen, so not as big of a deal as it could be.
T-Mobile should have alerted you to what kind of information was accessed. That message is crap.Notice the subtle difference between the message you got and mine .
i guess they are trying to tell me that in my case ,my ssn was compromised…3-4 major breaches in 3 yrs ? Incompetent jerks ! I keep my credit frozen as well but that doesnt necessarily mean we can rest easy…
”T-Mobile has determined that unauthorized access to some of your personal data has occurred. We have no evidence that your debit/credit card information was compromised. We take the protection of our customers seriously. We are taking actions to protect your T-Mobile account and we recommend that you take action to protect your credit. Read more here: t-mo.co/Protect”
I think data breaches have become “normalized” and “priced in” on Wall St. at this point, with the expectation that the chances of long-term damage to a company are minimal based on all of the previous data breaches. Data breaches are like Covid-19, it won’t go away completely and eventually we’ll learn to live with it thanks to mitigation measures like a possible SSN replacement.
This (i.e. using a credit card instead of a debit card) is good advice, but has really nothing to do with ID theft or with this breach, which apparently did not include any card numbers.I work in IT. Trust me when I tell you this. You need to assume somebody somewhere has all of your information so pay for an ID left service and don’t keep an amount of cash you couldn’t afford to lose in a checking account with a debit card you actively use. Keep it in savings and transfer only what you need in the short run or, better yet, don’t use a debit card at all for online or physical transactions. If you get fraudulent charges on a debit card that money is gone and it can take days or weeks to try and get it back. With a credit card you are not responsible and if they won’t work with you then you can dispute the charges. Don’t let them get your money.
ID protection services are near useless. They monitor your credit file and alert you after the damage has already been done. They promise to help you recover later, but their promises are vague and non-binding. There's also a good chance that they will be breached themselves sooner or later, another possible way your personal information can be leaked ...ID protection services may seem like an unnecessary monthly fee right up until you get hit and need them.
Better yet, set up your card account to send you a notification whenever there's a transaction.Find a credit card with good cash back or rewards you want to use it for everything. Check the charges daily. It’s worth it even if it adds 10 minutes to your day and another monthly fee.
It's just incomprehensible to me that no one is really watching. Having worked as programmer, supervisor, security officer, I'd never worked for an organization that didn't care enough to pay attention.Fifth or sixth. I know it's at least the fifth. I guess T-Mobile IT security goes with the saying of "Fool me six times, shame on you. Fool me seven or more times, shame on me."
T-Mobile earlier this week shared details on a data breach where hackers gained access to the personal information of close to 50 million current, former, and prospective customers.
T mobile is a third rate provider. I used them for couple years. They stink.
T-Mobile: a data breach has exposed info of over 55 million customersSo they've exposed the accounts of over 55 million poor people. Got it.
Each of my credit cards (I have 4) has a security setting where they notify me when ANY charge is posted to them, Any charge at all and my Watch and iPhone buzz me a message. Often before the clerk Hans me my item. I highly recommend this.I work in IT. Trust me when I tell you this. You need to assume somebody somewhere has all of your information so pay for an ID left service and don’t keep an amount of cash you couldn’t afford to lose in a checking account with a debit card you actively use. Keep it in savings and transfer only what you need in the short run or, better yet, don’t use a debit card at all for online or physical transactions. If you get fraudulent charges on a debit card that money is gone and it can take days or weeks to try and get it back. With a credit card you are not responsible and if they won’t work with you then you can dispute the charges. Don’t let them get your money. ID protection services may seem like an unnecessary monthly fee right up until you get hit and need them. Find a credit card with good cash back or rewards you want to use it for everything. Check the charges daily. It’s worth it even if it adds 10 minutes to your day and another monthly fee.
I filled that out at time of event for all of my phone lines and I still have not received any email!I was told (by the website) almost 24 hours ago I would get a link to activate this.
I'm still waiting.
I then contacted customer service T-Mobile via Apple Business Chat and they told me that I would get the link within 24 - 48 hours of signing up.
Is anyone else's taking this long?
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It's sad but it's likely cheaper to get hacked now and then and face basically no consequences rather than spend the money to do things properly. So they take the cheaper route.security is still not taken serious enough in corporate America ...
Like the Apple Card? I use it for literally everythingI work in IT. Trust me when I tell you this. You need to assume somebody somewhere has all of your information so pay for an ID left service and don’t keep an amount of cash you couldn’t afford to lose in a checking account with a debit card you actively use. Keep it in savings and transfer only what you need in the short run or, better yet, don’t use a debit card at all for online or physical transactions. If you get fraudulent charges on a debit card that money is gone and it can take days or weeks to try and get it back. With a credit card you are not responsible and if they won’t work with you then you can dispute the charges. Don’t let them get your money. ID protection services may seem like an unnecessary monthly fee right up until you get hit and need them. Find a credit card with good cash back or rewards you want to use it for everything. Check the charges daily. It’s worth it even if it adds 10 minutes to your day and another monthly fee.
They are very truthful about preventing future attacks, Don’t worry they changed all the passwords from Password1! To P@ssw0rd.This statement is so much corporate BS:
To prevent future attacks, T-Mobile says it has "worked diligently to enhance security across our platforms" and is working with experts to understand both immediate and longer-term next steps.
The time to do that was BEFORE all of these MULTIPLE breaches. It’s quite clear that T-Mobile is not to be trusted with all this data. They are not good at protecting it. The question I have, is Verizon and AT&T?
A lot of people do. I’m sure bad credit etc has something to do with it.Wait people actually use their debit card with online and in person transaction? Why not just use a CC…
I think that squirrel that runs along my fence every morning wasn't affected. And that's only because he doesn't have any pockets for a cell phone. Or a debit card, for that matter. But he's got his own problems. I think he wants to be a dove and fly free.Soooooo was there anyone that wasn't compromised?? ?
Words are things that have meaning when we use them in together in sequence. You know, strung together to make these things called "sentences", which kind of mean the same thing as that "thought" you had in your head before you sat down in front of your screen. Oh, and these sentences are usually separated by these other things called "periods". Periods are the thing that keep your written words from being like your breakfast when it comes out of your blender.“Ignorant”
No, the security failure fix is to harshly punish the perpetrators. Oddly enough, it really makes other people think twice about committing the same crime as somebody else who already did and is reaping rich punishment for it.The security failure fix, make it extremely financially painful for these businesses. Until penalties threaten their entire existence as a company nothing will change. We the consumers will keep taking the brunt of their corporate greed by overpaid Executives.
"use it to get 2FA codes"? Just how would you clone a SIM card of somebody you don't know and have never met?Corporations need to be held legally and criminally accountable for this ****.
Carriers get breached because you can clone someone's SIM card and use it to get 2FA codes and drain bank accounts
It is. Just remember it this way. You are ONE company. A castle, maybe.Actually, I bet it’s taken very seriously.
These things are all true. Especially the part about the hack being on the person and not a computer.The problem is manifold: the threat landscape keeps changing, some hacks are financed by governments who can outspend even large corporations, some things are inherently less secure because the hack is on the person and not a computer, and you have people inside of a company who do duplicitous things for revenge or profit or boredom.
Maybe, maybe not.This is a consequence of daily life being so accessible. There’s benefits but the negatives are finally being understood.
This is hilarious!You’ve got to luv an ad showing for T-Mobile as I read about T-Mobile very ugly breach. Time to move on from this carrier?? Is it a sign?
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Well put, but then you clipped a few trees and then nose-dived into the mountain.Your points are good. Why does all the corporate ineptitude always fall down to my level. Even Apple, I spend enough hours troubleshooting their problems to qualify for benefits. Not just the time but the expense. We all pay top dollar for wireless compared to the rest of the world and we need to spend more to fix their ineptitud. Corporate welfare comes to mind.
Firing squads work too. ?Lets not also forget to go after and punish the hackers
They don't. I got a couple of checks from different class action settlements. The amounts are always piddling.I don't believe class action lawsuits do much to change corporate behavior.
Yep, so in my case, the two checks I received from settlements came at different times, and they were for different companies who had made a mistake reporting some financials. I think I might have owned one stock for a couple of months, and the other for about a year and a half. Lost some on the first, had gains on the second.They certainly don't seem to directly help consumers much. I've been a class member of many such suits over the years and have yet to receive more than token compensation. I think they mostly benefit the attorneys that bring them.
Worse than that, I think it's a control thing with all possible outcomes intentionally made meaningless. To go into that deeper would get my hand slapped by the mods for political discourse.It's basically a slap on the wrist for the company and provides salaries for an army of lawyers.
Don't do it. Verizon is no better. My Verizon phone has been ringing all day with that robot-voiced lady threatening to call the FBI on me. Hey, ask them to call ahead; I'll put out a fresh pot of coffee and some danishes!is WTF i keep getting scam call after scam call on T Mobile? about to switch back to Verizon.
Me too, and I'm not even on T-Mobile! Why doesn't the T-Mobile girl ever call me? I might actually fall for a scam if it was her on the line! ? Oh, that's right, I just said I'm not on T-Mobile.?I have been getting robocalls NONSTOP since this leak. I'm pretty sure they got my info
You won't like my suggestions. They involve actual pain to the perpetrators, and people seem to have an aversion to that. After all, we emptied the prisons for Covid, right?We have some of the best engineers and security researchers in the world, yet we can’t stop this stuff. What’s it going to take?
You do know the US is broke, right?God forbid the billions and trillions sitting in the banks ever be used to protect our infrastructure.
"loses money anyway"? This is not a cartoon, it's real life. No, they go OUT of business.If people cannot trust the companies they entrust their personal information with, the business suffers and loses money anyway. Why not spend a little to protect their customers and EARN business? The fact that this isn’t a national priority boggles my mind.
Right, in my story above, I didn't mention that in each of those cases, I had to read the attorney's emails for years, and still not get enough money to buy myself a pizza. Really, it wasn't worth it in the end. I would have rather seen punishments made to the people who screwed up the reportings.Don't hold your breath. You may get $1 from a class action lawsuit that is settled 6 years from now.
Just how would you clone a SIM card of somebody you don't know and have never met?
Your comment about ineptitude an example of annoying iPad OS software and time spent dealing with it. Notice the first time ineptitude used. Many times when a word ends a sentence, the autocorrelation software can drop the last character and not catch the misspelling. Plus for some strange reason the keyboard that does this randomly becomes the default. Now one has to carefully proof read. The point of these posts, speaking by typing. Not a writing class and thus some reader translation maybe required. Ever record yourself and say was any of that complete sentences. We pay good monies to be annoyed. Almost there to getting my full Apple benefits.I think that squirrel that runs along my fence every morning wasn't affected. And that's only because he doesn't have any pockets for a cell phone. Or a debit card, for that matter. But he's got his own problems. I think he wants to be a dove and fly free.
Words are things that have meaning when we use them in together in sequence. You know, strung together to make these things called "sentences", which kind of mean the same thing as that "thought" you had in your head before you sat down in front of your screen. Oh, and these sentences are usually separated by these other things called "periods". Periods are the thing that keep your written words from being like your breakfast when it comes out of your blender.
No, the security failure fix is to harshly punish the perpetrators. Oddly enough, it really makes other people think twice about committing the same crime as somebody else who already did and is reaping rich punishment for it.
Hangings are effective, and there are other ways too, but most people would probably settle for long prison sentences.
"use it to get 2FA codes"? Just how would you clone a SIM card of somebody you don't know and have never met?
It is. Just remember it this way. You are ONE company. A castle, maybe.
There are thousands of attackers on any given day. And they're not all trying to storm your drawbridge, so you can't apply all your troops to one single place. They're actually trying to attack you from land, sea, and the underground. And they have dragons, so they're trying to fly over your castle walls too!
These things are all true. Especially the part about the hack being on the person and not a computer.
Maybe, maybe not.
If I'm a hacker, I don't need to find your Twitter or FB account. I can just find a corporation with some vulnerabilities and maybe with a little SQL injection, I can get a bunch of names and numbers from a database.
Your Tic-Toc dance might not even be needed. But Tic-Toc, being owned by a Chinese company, may not be the smartest app to have on your devices...
This is hilarious!
Well put, but then you clipped a few trees and then nose-dived into the mountain.
It's "ineptitude", with an "e" on the end. But you almost had it there! ?
And then you hit the mountain head-on. "Corporate welfare"? That word has been used now for a few decades, and the only time I think it applies is when a company receives money from the government that the taxpayers haven't directly approved of. You know, a bailout. Or a grant of any kind that comes from a local or national government.
Yes, THAT would be corporate welfare. We can't just claim "corporate welfare" every time a company is in the news for something embarrassing.
Firing squads work too. ?
They don't. I got a couple of checks from different class action settlements. The amounts are always piddling.
Yep, so in my case, the two checks I received from settlements came at different times, and they were for different companies who had made a mistake reporting some financials. I think I might have owned one stock for a couple of months, and the other for about a year and a half. Lost some on the first, had gains on the second.
The checks were being sent to people who were shareholders during the time period of the financial misdisclosures. I'm sure that I was not damaged by either company's alleged misreportings. I use a lot of indicators when deciding to buy, sell, or hold any investment, and one little 10Q or quarterly reporting indicator probably wouldn't have been a reason for me to make a different decision.
So anyway, one check was for something around $1.50. And the other one was for something like $2.72.
Not $1.50 and $2.72 per share owned; that would have net me thousands. No no no, it was for $1.50 and $2.72, or a total of $4.22. And no, neither check was directly deposited to any of my investment/brokerage accounts.
They came as paper checks. That was before the time that my bank offered an app that let me deposit checks with my smartphone, so I actually had to go to the bank and stand in line. I guess that was my punishment for being a member of the class. ?
Worse than that, I think it's a control thing with all possible outcomes intentionally made meaningless. To go into that deeper would get my hand slapped by the mods for political discourse.
Don't do it. Verizon is no better. My Verizon phone has been ringing all day with that robot-voiced lady threatening to call the FBI on me. Hey, ask them to call ahead; I'll put out a fresh pot of coffee and some danishes!
Me too, and I'm not even on T-Mobile! Why doesn't the T-Mobile girl ever call me? I might actually fall for a scam if it was her on the line! ? Oh, that's right, I just said I'm not on T-Mobile.?
You won't like my suggestions. They involve actual pain to the perpetrators, and people seem to have an aversion to that. After all, we emptied the prisons for Covid, right?
You do know the US is broke, right?
In 2016, the IRS collected about $3.2 trillion and spent about $3.8 trillion.
The US has a national debt of $28.1 trillion
We only collect about $3.5 billion in taxes each year, and to "make up for that", we spend more than we collect each year.
Debt is wrong. Yet, there it is.
"loses money anyway"? This is not a cartoon, it's real life. No, they go OUT of business.
Right, in my story above, I didn't mention that in each of those cases, I had to read the attorney's emails for years, and still not get enough money to buy myself a pizza. Really, it wasn't worth it in the end. I would have rather seen punishments made to the people who screwed up the reportings.