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Thanks to everyone who abused this perk, because now it is gone.

Why is it the rules need to change when only 1% of the customers are "over using" it? If 99% are using "normal" amounts of data, why have to create a new rule? I think TM uses the 1% abuse as an excuse. I go to Canada about once a year. Sometimes, the Hotel internet sucks, so I use LTE. Now I have to worry if I am going over 5GB (which isn't much...certainly not enough to watch a movie or two).
 
Thanks to everyone who abused this perk, because now it is gone.

Agreed. I spend lots of time in Ottawa and Montreal and this feature is valuable to me. But I would never consider streaming a movie over LTE when roaming. It's still roaming, you're just not paying the bill, so this is either gross ignorance or plain abuse. I just checked my roaming data and over 3 days in Ottawa last week I used 400MB, which was lots of Google Maps, messages, emails, some FaceTime and probably a few app updates.

So yes, thank you to those who abused this great feature.
 
"A few people abusing it"

More like...a few people using it as advertised: continuing to use data while abroad just like they would at home. That's how the feature was presented, and it was a great thing while it lasted. Maybe the moral of the story is, don't promise something you can't actually afford?

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE POOR CORPORATIONS? :eek:

It's pretty clever though: they know full and well how this was going to be used, probably had the wording for the backsies handy the moment they announced this feature and cashed in on all the positive rep they got for it, held on to it until enough people joined the club, then slammed the doors when they announced happy hour is over. :cool:

Glassed Silver:ios
 
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Using WiFi? If not, you're the problem.

To be fair, sometimes (and often) hotel free wifi just sucks, either because it's overloaded or it's deliberately throttled or otherwise restricted so you upgrade to the $20/day 'Premium'. I always stay in big name hotels in Europe and the US, and I'd say in about half of those the wifi wouldn't be adequate to stream a movie.
 
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Germany is really behind with LTE. They promote bis zu 50mbps like it’s a very big deal! Some carriers are even like bis zu 20mbps! Welcome to 2011 lol. OTOH German mobile rates are much cheaper. You can get prepaid or postpaid options for 10-20 euros with up to 3GB of data. Not the best coverage wise, but in America it’s really $50 and most of the time $100 with the premium carriers. Same situation with cable tv (Sky in Germany). Lots of people I know find it expensive. They would freak out if they knew I paid Spectrum $150 a month but the quality of programming and sports is much better than anything offered anywhere in Europe. All those licenses cost a lot of money.

Not true. With t-mobile germany you get up to 300 mbps. Vodaphone is advertising up to 375mbps.
 
T-Mobile, if by some miracle you’re reading this, please give us an option to pay for faster and more data when overseas. Please!

Thank you for giving us 256 kpbs, would appreciate the minimum to be 512. There are times I’m just looking at my phone waiting for it to load and not enjoying the view!


Agree. I was in London this summer and ended-up purchasing a Vonage SIM card. The T-Mobile data speed was to slow for effective use of the Maps app, which I used all of the time.
 
To be fair, sometimes (and often) hotel free wifi just sucks, either because it's overloaded or it's deliberately throttled or otherwise restricted so you upgrade to the $20/day 'Premium'. I always stay in big name hotels in Europe and the US, and I'd say in about half of those the wifi wouldn't be adequate to stream a movie.

I cannot understand what it must be like to travel and feel the need to consume mindless mass produced garbage on my cell phone or computer instead of experiencing the world around me. If you need late entertainment read a book.
 
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In Europe and other countries, data is always throttled to 128 Kbps or 256 Kbps, so the limit does not apply.

Ever heard O2 free? When I use up my 15gb LTE I get unlimited 3G connection at 1 MBit. I’m fine with that.
 
I cannot understand what it must be like to travel and feel the need to consume mindless mass produced garbage on my cell phone or computer instead of experiencing the world around me. If you need late entertainment read a book.

Not every traveller goes to amazing, exotic locations steeped in history all of the time; nor is every film "mindless mass produced garbage". I go to some places where it's not even safe to leave the hotel at times. And yes, I read books - I also watch films or TV shows from time to time.
 
Agree. I was in London this summer and ended-up purchasing a Vonage SIM card. The T-Mobile data speed was to slow for effective use of the Maps app, which I used all of the time.

Same with us a year ago. Sort of counting on using my TM phone as my AT&T main phone would not work without buying expensive international plan. Turned out the TM speed was too pathetic to use and had to buy a SIM from Orange to get decent data while out and about.

Maybe these carrier execs should be forced to use 250kbps speed when they travel abroad.
 
All these gimmick plans... having to sunset them.... etc. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: Give us a fair plan and there would be no need to constantly be trying to switch carriers, or trying to get in on the "new plan" before they just get rid of it. It's work trying to keep up with carries/plans, trying to save money, albeit often only temporarily. In the end, the carriers win anyway. But at least if they stopped playing games and just set a fair price, they would make money, their customers would be happy, and they could lay off hundreds of people who sit around tables all day trying to invent the next carrier scheme that will "benefit" the consumer. Then pass that savings along to us!
 
How ironic, T-Mobile Germany within Germany throttles to 64kbs lol

T-Mobile in Germany is not comparable at any point. It‘s the market leader and though acts accordingly, so exactly what T-Mobile US aimes at with its offerings.
 
Ever heard O2 free? When I use up my 15gb LTE I get unlimited 3G connection at 1 MBit. I’m fine with that.

But o2 sucks ass! I had it before but i am living in the city center of Stuttgart and it is not working like at all even near the train station. Same experience at the train station in Frankfurt, i almost missed a train once cuz the damn internet wouldnt load. It shows 3G (and sometimes LTE lol) but doesnt load.

Since my commute is very long, i went back to T-Mobile. I was in a Pokemon Go raid recently and everyone with o2 at the spot was like ITS NOT WORKING CAN ANYONE SET UP A HOTSPOT

o2 doesnt seem to be handle crowded places or remote areas for that matter well
 
I always just buy a local SIM. Far cheaper. Paid less than $20 US for 25GB in Honduras. Doubled that data by buying on the right day (depending on the ending number of your phone number, you get 2x whatever you purchase (data, text, or talk) on a specific day of the week there).
 
But o2 sucks ass! I had it before but i am living in the city center of Stuttgart and it is not working like at all even near the train station. Same experience at the train station in Frankfurt, i almost missed a train once cuz the damn internet wouldnt load. It shows 3G (and sometimes LTE lol) but doesnt load.

Since my commute is very long, i went back to T-Mobile. I was in a Pokemon Go raid recently and everyone with o2 at the spot was like ITS NOT WORKING CAN ANYONE SET UP A HOTSPOT

o2 doesnt seem to be handle crowded places or remote areas for that matter well

Telekom is really the best in Germany. I normally just force my iPhone to only use Telekom instead of roaming onto O2 or Vodaphone. I have Tmobile One and I am happy with the 256kps speed I get for free. It’s fine for navigation as well as running apps. I can use WiFi if I need to send a bunch of pics etc.
 
I'm not advocating for carrier limits but what you say simply isn't true. Mobile spectrum has physical limitations which the carrier cannot control.

Go on. Explain how the physical limitations change anything I said. I don't deny that there is a limit to the amount of data a tower can handle at once. I'm saying that previous use of data is not a justifiable reason for throttling one person but not another. What if I use a 100 gigs on a tower that never once gets saturated, and then I take a trip and get lost and need help? Is my data use less important than the person who lives in that town who wants to settle a debate about who acted in a movie simply because I've used more at another time on another tower elsewhere? Since the carrier doesn't know the value of the information being throttled they either need to throttle everyone so it's clear that their network is congested, or they need to compensate those they throttle. To put it another way. Throttling data is like bumping a paid passenger. Everyone has a equal expectation to get where they paid to go regardless of how many flight they took that month. It's one thing to delay everyone, it's another thing to forcibly pull someone off against their will.
 
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This is why prepaid MVNO’s are the best option if you own your phone. Simple mobile gives you unlimited at 20mbp/s and 10gb of thether for $45 if you have amazon prime.
 
I cannot understand what it must be like to travel and feel the need to consume mindless mass produced garbage on my cell phone or computer instead of experiencing the world around me. If you need late entertainment read a book.
Lol the judgmental comments online always make my day.

You seriously care how anyone else relaxes in the evening at their hotel? You think there’s a “correct” way? (Books only!) lol
 
Thanks to everyone who abused this perk, because now it is gone.
I think sometimes a company underestimates how much a new perk for their customers will cost them. That's what happened here, perhaps along with some abusers who basically lived in Mexico/Canada or acted like it based on their usage (using their phones as a hotspot for family members maybe).
 
Go on. Explain how the physical limitations change anything I said. I don't deny that there is a limit to the amount of data a tower can handle at once. I'm saying that previous use of data is not a justifiable reason for throttling one person but not another. What if I use a 100 gigs on a tower that never once gets saturated, and then I take a trip and get lost and need help? Is my data use less important than the person who lives in that town who wants to settle a debate about who acted in a movie simply because I've used more at another time on another tower elsewhere? Since the carrier doesn't know the value of the information being throttled they either need to throttle everyone so it's clear that their network is congested, or they need to compensate those they throttle. To put it another way. Throttling data is like bumping a paid passenger. Everyone has a equal expectation to get where they paid to go regardless of how many flight they took that month. It's one thing to delay everyone, it's another thing to forcibly pull someone off against their will.
Oh spare me the drama about your data being less important than someone elses. Let me guess, you're using your LTE to save lives, am I right?

You are not a "bumped paid customer". You are now aware of the new data limitation stipulations of traveling to canada or mexico, and can easily cancel your service. Long term contracts are over, and nobody is holding you hostage with T-Mobile. You paid for a month of service, and if it was for this billing period, you have exactly 1 billing period to still use up to 50GB as the new throttling rules go into effect November 12. You paid for 50GB this month, you can use up to 50GB before being throttled. Next month you'll pay for 5GB, and nobody is forcing you to do that.
 
I don't get it; isn't 5GB enough for international roaming for 99% of people? And the few people who need more data can just pay a little bit for the additional data they need?

When I was visiting Canada, most of my data usage was Google Maps to get around, and occasional social media usage. This was back when you had to buy 120MB data packs from AT&T (that's 0.12 gigs, a FRACTION of the 5GB above) and I didn't even use it all up over the course of an entire week.

Most hotels and businesses have WiFi available. What are ya'll doing on your international trips where 5GB isn't enough? Hell my entire DOMESTIC data plan is 6GB!
 
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