T-Mobile USA Blames Lack of iPhone for Customer Loss in 4Q 2011

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    T-Mobile USA today announced earnings results for the fourth quarter of 2011, revealing a net loss of over 800,000 contract subscribers during the quarter. The carrier, which is now the only one of the four major U.S. carriers to not carry the iPhone, specifically blamed the launch of the iPhone 4S for the defections, mentioning the iPhone by name seven times in its release.
    Following the collapse of a deal that would have seen T-Mobile USA acquired by AT&T, T-Mobile USA is seeking to reposition itself with a "challenger strategy" and move aggressively to roll out 4G LTE services beginning next year.


    Other U.S. carriers have already been rolling out their LTE networks for some time, but T-Mobile has been behind that curve as it has relied on HSPA+ technology that previously gave it an advantage over some of the other carriers in data speeds. But with AT&T having upgraded its own network to HSPA+ even as it is already building out LTE, T-Mobile is now finding itself scrambling to recover from the holding pattern is was in while the AT&T acquisition deal was pending.

    Article Link: T-Mobile USA Blames Lack of iPhone for Customer Loss in 4Q 2011
  2. notoriousceo macrumors newbie

    May 19, 2008
    SFO + BKK
    or T-Mo can blame themselves for getting a new pink girl...
  3. Lordskelic macrumors regular


    Nov 3, 2010
  4. bommai macrumors 6502a


    May 23, 2003
    Melbourne, FL
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)

    I don't think the us has room for tmobile. I think in a couple of years they will be dead.
  5. Sackvillenb macrumors 6502a


    Mar 1, 2011
    Canada! \m/
    I wonder what specific data they have used to come to this conclusion? I don't doubt their findings, I'm just curious about the details... I'm sure t-mobile will catch up... eventually...
  6. Mad-B-One macrumors 6502a


    Jun 24, 2011
    Southern Plains
    Too sad. I liked their service but I switched for the same reason when Verizon started the iPhone. T-Mobile had better contract conditions even though their 3G network was a little thin in rural areas.

    In the long run, I think we need T-Mobile on the US market as a competitor. Their service was one of the best I've seen so far. I have a Sprint work phone, a Verizon iPhone and my wife has a AT&T iPhone (had U.S. Cellular before - worst of all). So, I have some experience with the other major players. T-Mobile has the best plan for the buck and coverage - in my opinion.
  7. jayducharme macrumors 68030


    Jun 22, 2006
    The thick of it
    So much for the view that keeping AT&T separate from T-Mobile would be better for business and better for competition. It looks like both companies are losing out, T-Mobile with the exodus of customers and AT&T with the loss of an expanded network.
  8. JediZenMaster macrumors 68000


    Mar 28, 2010
    As a former TMO employee this doesn't suprise me at all. It's not the lack of an iPhone that has hurt this company this lack of direction.

    TMO has been way too focused on being "Budget friendly" as well as for a long time the retention reps would just give away high end phones at a loss just to retain customers. In the end its about the bottom line

    They should have taken a page from AT&T and Verizon's book. Oh well too late.
  9. uknowimright macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2011
    most of their phones are mediocre, galaxy s II is one of their few bright stars, if they added the iphone and other high end android devices they would probably be doing better, at this point they compete more with metro pcs with the all the budget stuff they got going on
  10. snebes macrumors 6502a

    Apr 20, 2008
    What happened to Carly?? They are nuts to drop her!
  11. gpat macrumors 6502a

    Mar 1, 2011
    T-Mo's best phone is a Galaxy S2 which... actually is not a Galaxy S2. (different processor, lack of support). 'Nuff said.

    Their SIM-only plans are stellar, especially the $30 one for 5GB+txt+100min, but in the US market you can only go that far without killer handsets.
  12. Four oF NINE macrumors 68000

    Four oF NINE

    Sep 28, 2011
    Hell's Kitchen
    I don't understand the opposition to the merger between T-Mo and AT&T
  13. Apple 26.2 Contributor

    Apple 26.2

    Jan 1, 2011
    What up, 212?!
    Not being a fan of Deutsche Telekom, I say good... but the U.S. needs competition, so come on T-Mobile, get the with the program!
  14. danny_w macrumors 601

    Mar 8, 2005
    Austin, TX
    That will be so sad if true. It would cost me considerably more (oat least $120/mo) to change carriers on my family plan, which is already far too hight IMHO. We need T-Mobile! And yes I do have an iPhone but with no network data (wifi is plenty for me).
  15. Skika macrumors 68030

    Mar 11, 2009
    Mobile phone carriers should all just evolve to just data providers. And we need a standard for voice calls that can run on all phones through EDGE, 3G or WIFI and uses the appropriate connection when available.
  16. applesith macrumors 68020


    Jun 11, 2007
    excuses excuses.

    I blame that Catherine Zeta Jones wannabe. She's unbearable and bowlegged. Get the Zeta back!!
  17. Pared macrumors 65816

    Oct 19, 2007
    There HAS TO be a reason why TMobile is the only major carrier left out of the 4S launch. They either did not want to pay the money or something...

    It can't be a technical reason. There are way too many people on T-Mobile with iPhones already using all of these hacks...
  18. auxiliary macrumors newbie

    Feb 23, 2012
    T-Mobile was doomed from the beginning.
    Don't forget that T-Mobile, was Voice Stream, and Voice Stram was ??? That talking parrot (early 90's). Was always 2nd rate.
  19. danny_w macrumors 601

    Mar 8, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Second rate in what way? I have had Sprint, AT&T (throughout the various incarnations), and now T-Mobile. T-Mobile has by far the best customer service and network for my location out of all 3.
  20. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    If true then Android truly is iPhone's ugly step sister. But Android activation numbers do not bolster that position so seems to me T-Mob is the ugly step sister of the CellCo world. Their coverage is worse than ATTs and that's saying something.
  21. Jaredly macrumors member

    Jan 28, 2010
    I want even one step further than that. I just want WIFI to be expanded. It is clearly the fastest way of getting online. Why not just get rid of 3g 4g 5g etc. and get wifi everywhere. Make calls and surf the web over wifi. I dont understand why phone companies wont do this. Maybe one day our government will provide everybody in the country with wifi (yes I know that would make people nervous because then the government would know where you are all the time).

    NYC already provides wifi in its parks so why not just expand that? Just my wishful thinking I guess.
  22. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    If the new chipsets from Qualcomm support AWS, then my guess is T-Mobile will bite the bullet and commit to purchasing a boatload of the next iPhone this fall. I have both T-Mobile and AT&T, and what I have found is that, in general, T-Mobile works better in the city, and AT&T works better in the suburbs around here (NYC).
  23. 1080p macrumors 68020


    Mar 17, 2010
    Planet Earth
    Why can't they just shut down their 2G Edge network and deploy LTE on their 1900Mhz spectrum.

    Then they could have LTE with UMTS (HSPA) as their fallback. No one wants to use EDGE anymore. Any customers that happen to have a GSM/EDGE only phone could get a free 3G phone offered by T-Mo.
  24. acidfast7 macrumors 65816


    Nov 22, 2008
    welcome to 2009, US customers. I've had 50Mb/5Mb service for more than 2 years already.


    from wiki:

    The world's first publicly available LTE service was opened in the two Scandinavian capitals Stockholm (Ericsson and Nokia Siemens Networks systems) and Oslo (a Huawei system) on 14 December 2009.

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