I have no idea... I've never heard a number. But 100% of their network is 4G, and will be LTE by the end of 2013. They may actuall give Verizon a run for their money on LTE coverage by the end of the year.
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T-Mobile's iPhone 5 Reviews: LTE Speeds Are Impressive, HD Voice Difference Notable
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I have no idea... I've never heard a number. But 100% of their network is 4G, and will be LTE by the end of 2013. They may actuall give Verizon a run for their money on LTE coverage by the end of the year.
Apple Product Resale Value
First I buy a top of the line 64GB iPad 3 w/LTE model, spending over $1000 with a case, smart cover and AppleCare+ and 6 months later they introduce a better model. Next I buy a new, AT&T subsidized 32GB iPhone 5 and then, today, Apple reveals an updated, better model exactly 32 days after I purchased mine. I can't help but feel just a little bit agitated because I have been burned by Apple on product resale value, not once, but twice now - and both rather recently. I suppose Apple devices are becoming truly disposable since they obviously don't retain their value like they once did. I'll certainly think twice before shelling out a boatload of quid for another Apple product any time soon!
Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me.
First I buy a top of the line 64GB iPad 3 w/LTE model, spending over $1000 with a case, smart cover and AppleCare+ and 6 months later they introduce a better model. Next I buy a new, AT&T subsidized 32GB iPhone 5 and then, today, Apple reveals an updated, better model exactly 32 days after I purchased mine. I can't help but feel just a little bit agitated because I have been burned by Apple on product resale value, not once, but twice now - and both rather recently. I suppose Apple devices are becoming truly disposable since they obviously don't retain their value like they once did. I'll certainly think twice before shelling out a boatload of quid for another Apple product any time soon!
Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me.
It's great for family plan.
here's the cost for a FAMILY PLAN with these usages
line 1: unlimited talk, unlimited text, unlimited data
line 2: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 2.5 GB of data
line 3: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 500MB of data
line 4: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 500MB of data
$80 (first 2 lines) + $10 (3rd line) + $10 (4th line) + $20 (unlimited data for line 1) + $10 (2GB extra for line 2) = $130
$130 / 4 = $32.5
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cost of a FAMILY PLAN with low data usage / use wifi instead
Line 1: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
Line 2: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data.
Line 3: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
Line 4: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
$80 (line 1 and line 2) + $10 (for line 3) + $10 (for line 4)= $100
$100 / 4 = $25 per line
here's the cost for a FAMILY PLAN with these usages
line 1: unlimited talk, unlimited text, unlimited data
line 2: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 2.5 GB of data
line 3: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 500MB of data
line 4: unlimited talk, unlimited text, 500MB of data
$80 (first 2 lines) + $10 (3rd line) + $10 (4th line) + $20 (unlimited data for line 1) + $10 (2GB extra for line 2) = $130
$130 / 4 = $32.5
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cost of a FAMILY PLAN with low data usage / use wifi instead
Line 1: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
Line 2: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data.
Line 3: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
Line 4: unlimited talk, unlimited text and 500MB of data
$80 (line 1 and line 2) + $10 (for line 3) + $10 (for line 4)= $100
$100 / 4 = $25 per line
Yeah, well I travel a lot. And during most of my travels, my friends T-mobile phone has no service. It's good in cities... but when in rural areas it's pretty bad. Not as bad as Sprint... but pretty bad nonetheless.
This is actually terrific. I'm making a big, big move and am needing to save as much money as possible. I've been meaning to switch to Verizon for quite a while, but this, again, is wonderful.
Thank you, T-Mobile!
Thank you, T-Mobile!
If you care too much for the resale value, then I got bad news for you...technology moves, fast. Heck, the resale drops the instant you unwrap the box. It's like driving a new car off the lot. Also, you're an AT&T customer, why are you feeling bad about this T-Mobile iPhone announcement? The tweaked model is only beneficial to the latter's customers.
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Would you rather Apple did not put out a new phone such that T-Mobile could get the iPhone ?
As far as I can tell that plan is still available as a prepaid plan. The new plans introduced today are all post pay. Not sure if TMO will let prepaid users get the iPhone at the price announced today or if we will have to buy a phone from Apple at full retail.
I'm currently on that plan with my unlocked iP4...rarely speak on the phone...really looking forward to the faster speeds the iP5 will offer!
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TMO is always touting "The nation's largest 4G network." But they count their HSPA+ network as 4G....and it is quite fast and good. The fact that the iPhone will now work on both refarmed and non-refarmed HSPA+ spectrum is great....even where there isn't LTE, the phone will fall back on their great HSPA+ network which you could argue is only 3G, but pretty dang good 3G.
Great! I was waiting to see if yesterday's press conference had any better deals, but then got nervous when I could't find the prepaid plans anymore!
It doesn't matter to me whether you have to buy the phone outright, although the newer tech iPhone 5 looks to be much better than the older tech.
The answer is they will make a decent profit where as the others make a killing. They are banking on you staying with them and making a profit from monthly charges but decoupling the cost of the handset from the deal. This way if you decide to leave they don't make profit but they don't make a loss either. You never know this could be the shake up the US carrier market needs.
It will be interesting to see because if T-Mobile essentially offers the unlocked only version that means the iPhone 5 will be:
16GB - $650
32GB - $750
64GB - $850
and if they offer a 128GB version for $950?
I am not sure they will sell a whole lot of those, as the monthly payback cost would rise way over $20 per month for 24 Months
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http://www.att.com/network/
Just select the 4G LTE Coverage in the middle of the page it will give you their map...
Not according to what I've read. They have 0 LTE now. No way they will match Verizon in the next 8 months, IMO, of course based on what I have read. Verizon has been working on their LTE for about 2 years if memory serves me correctly. There is a reason T-Mobile doesn't make claims about their network size.
First, you're not obligated to buy the phone, you have the option to return it when canceling service and owing nothing more. Second, with the service contracts, you are stuck with an early termination fee even if you don't bring your own phone. TM, you can just walk away any time and owe nothing. Is that an option with ATT, Verizon, or sprint?
$99 plus 24 payments of $20 is $579. Apple charges $649.
Thank you for providing this information. I plan to go to the T-Mobile store on April 12th and try out the iPhone to see what type of speed using speedtest.net I would get in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
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Okay, I see what you mean. I do like the idea of turning the phone in if you no longer want to remain with T-Mobile. I didn't know you could turn the phone in, I thought T-Mobile only said that the customer could do a trade-in anytime. In a slight way, it's sort of a rental if you turn the phone in not fully paid. I can live with that. Okay, well then T-Mobile does appear to be offering a great deal. That'll work!
This is the part that has been thinking very seriously about switching to T-Mobile. I was with T-Mobile about 8 years ago. I remember the T-Mobile customer service being great at that time. Unfortunately, their service area was not great where I lived at that time. Looking at their map coverage now it is vastly improved. I am looking forward to coming back to T-Mobile come April 12th.
Sitting on my back porch, 4G is MUCH faster than WIFI.
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Isn't is true generally that Verizon phones don't work on other carrier's networks? Indeed, I thought that VZ phones worked ONLY on VZ networks.
Are there significant exceptions to this general statement?
Faster than Wifi in general on the iPhone? I'm sure the wifi chip has a larger bandwidth than 3G (don't know the exact numbers, just that N-band is huge).
Not even close. Go look at a coverage map and zoom in. More specifically NH, Maine, Massachusetts, etc. Pretty much all EDGE.
If it took VZW almost 2 years to cover their network with LTE, how can a useless company like TMo do it faster?
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I think you'll drank the magenta koolaid. VZW has more LTE in the US than TMobile has 3G, this is an undisputed fact. Go look at a map (or hell, provide us a source). Go look at sensorly. TMo isn't even close.
Look at all the blue on the TMo map. It's basically EDGE, whereas VZW is LTE.
AT&T's footprint for EDGE/HSPA+
significantly more expansive than T-Mobile
I can drive from Boston to DC and never loose LTE on AT&T/VZW. T-Mobile? most major highways are all EDGE.
I don't think Sensorly is a reliable source of data. For example, they have absolutely no data about the city where I live, which is a metropolitan area of over 1.5 million people which has had Verizon LTE for 18 months, AT&T LTE for 6 months, and T-Mo 4G for several years. Sensorly's dataset is way too small to be representative of what coverage is actually like. The "Coverage?" app on iOS shows a lot more data, but it too is skewed because there haven't been any iOS devices on T-Mobile to capture data.
I can't speak for the East, but in the West where I live and drive (many states across the west), T-Mobile's 4G covers quite a bit more area than LTE for VZ or AT&T... but most especially AT&T.
If we go buy what T-Mobile is charging for the 16GB iPhone 5 with its $99 down $20/month for 24 months:
16GB - $579
32GB - $679
64GB - $779
I am hoping that T-Mobile offers the 32GB for $79 down and $25/month for 24 months. But I suspect that it would be something more like $199 down and $20/month for 24 months.
By cutting out sales reps' comm. at stores. Such price could only be available online. Their sales reps will flock to VZW or other carriers's stores to work because there will be no meat left since every plan is "un-contract".