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Eh… losing an hour of battery life on the M1 or M2 Air is meaningful if you tend to push those machines under Sequoia. The M3 result is weird and I'm not well read enough on the differences between the M1/M2 vs M3 to even guess as to why.

Doesn't matter to me, I use my laptop on battery only occasionally, but just because it doesn’t seem like a big deal to me doesn’t mean others won’t feel the difference.
 
Upgraded. Turned my M3 MBP 14" to a windows machine - battery draining fast and the machine heats up like crazy. Backed down to Sequoia after 3-4 days. I was hoping that once indexing finishes, things would settle down, but no such luck.
 
Eh… losing an hour of battery life on the M1 or M2 Air is meaningful if you tend to push those machines under Sequoia. The M3 result is weird and I'm not well read enough on the differences between the M1/M2 vs M3 to even guess as to why.

Doesn't matter to me, I use my laptop on battery only occasionally, but just because it doesn’t seem like a big deal to me doesn’t mean others won’t feel the difference.
am not getting less noticeable time on my battery; it's certainly better than the very-first OS26 betas. just my experience here, of course...
 
From looking at the jerky pop up window animations it is obviously not optimized and the UI eats more GPU to render the refraction effects. Anything who says there is no issue (usual suspects) is gaslighting you into being silent. You should always complain. It’s the complainers who always give us better computing.

When we talk about performance, battery and benchmarks we have to speak for all users and not selfishly posting “I don’t have any issues”. People who do that are short sighted and have low standards.
 
From looking at the jerky pop up window animations it is obviously not optimized and the UI eats more GPU to render the refraction effects. Anything who says there is no issue (usual suspects) is gaslighting you into being silent. You should always complain. It’s the complainers who always give us better computing.

When we talk about performance, battery and benchmarks we have to speak for all users and not selfishly posting “I don’t have any issues”. People who do that are short sighted and have low standards.
nice try. if we're not all experiencing the same issues, then, no... you can't speak for 'all users'. that's just being logical.
 
These threads would explode into hundreds of posts in few days if this would really be an actual issue. Yet this one is #13...

Not necessarily. Since M1 the battery life of Macbooks has been incredible and I would find it hard to notice losing 30 minutes here and there amongst the aging of batteries and ample amount of battery life if I was using my laptop on battery. It's like not noticing a 10 km road got 50 meters shorter, if that makes sense.

I think the iPhone Battery lawsuit can demonstrate how difficult it is for users to accurately gauge their device performance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate#History

For the usual suspects note the usage of the word 'I' and learn context.
 
Very happy with my M1 Max 16’ MBP (2021).

Will say that iOS 26 had a noticeable hit on my iPhone. Same for iPad. But Mac OS seems to be about the same.

All this processing for “glass ui” or whatever … I would love an option to turn it off - I just want to work and do what I need to do without the OS being pretty or getting in the way :p.
 
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Something off here.

What test(s) were run that made the M1-M4 last ONLY about 6 hours, anyway?

Strikes me, prima facie, as some sort of strenuous, processor-intensive task(s) that likely bear little relationship to how people use their devices in normal, mixed daily operations.

Certainly must not be similar to anything I use my MacBook Air for — which routinely gives me double to triple the reported battery life.

For sure, the lose of about an hour is a chunk of time, but that could well have a minor impact on overall if the intensive task(s) make up only part of one's day. For example, if one only does it (them) for a hour, the loss is only 10 minutes!

Given the bizarre times, benchmark differences, and behaviors of those laptops, with M1 & M4 lasting about an hour (or two) longer than the M2 and M3 regardless of OS — and the strange inversion of performance for the M3 MBA, makes the entire testing suspect. What else is running or going on with those laptops?

Does the tester explain that? Certainly not watching a random YouTuber to find out, but maybe someone else who did can fill us in!

Do they even have well-established, good bonafides?

In any event, one test by one person does not a case make!
 
Something off here.

What test(s) were run that made the M1-M4 last ONLY about 6 hours, anyway?

Strikes me, prima facie, as some sort of strenuous, processor-intensive task(s) that likely bear little relationship to how people use their devices in normal, mixed daily operations.

Certainly must not be similar to anything I use my MacBook Air for — which routinely gives me double to triple the reported battery life.

For sure, the lose of about an hour is a chunk of time, but that could well have a minor impact on overall if the intensive task(s) make up only part of one's day. For example, if one only does it (them) for a hour, the loss is only 10 minutes!

Given the bizarre times, benchmark differences, and behaviors of those laptops, with M1 & M4 lasting about an hour (or two) longer than the M2 and M3 regardless of OS — and the strange inversion of performance for the M3 MBA, makes the entire testing suspect. What else is running or going on with those laptops?

Does the tester explain that? Certainly not watching a random YouTuber to find out, but maybe someone else who did can fill us in!

Do they even have well-established, good bonafides?

In any event, one test by one person does not a case make!

He ran a suite of automated tasks using apps such as LM Studio, VS Code, Chrome, Photoshop, Premiere, etc. that ran every 30 minutes and had a camera recording the side-by side testing overnight. Alex Ziskind is actually a reputable YouTuber (not random) who is a developer first and foremost, so his content looks at things primarily from a developer's perspective. Even he acknowledged the oddity of the M3 result in the video.
 
since when does the mba m1 have more battery than newer models ??
Reading through the comments, I think this is due to running the tests at max brightness. The mba m1 only goes up to 400 nits unlike the newer macbook air models which could explain that.

Ideally this test should have been done with all screens calibrated to the same nit output. But I still think the test is useful for comparing each machine tahoe vs sequoia.
 
The battery life although not catastrophic, it is tangible for M1 Max.

And one more thing, my M1 Max is almost always a little warm which never was with the same workload (essentially mail, web and office) on the previous OS's.
 
The biggest thing that “killed the battery life” for me was Apple’s claim of 22 hours battery life (or whatever it was), but when I put my M4P MBP to real work, I got about 2-3 hours. I hardly think the difference between Tahoe and Sequoia is going to dent that too much.
 
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