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Tahoe will be the first new OS that I won't sail.

rebelo

rebelo

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Who remembers Lion? I thought I could withstand any buggy MacOS after Lion. Tahoe (RC) is making me change my mind. As much as I enjoyed the whole liquid design approach, everything else seems sluggish and out of place even on a MacStudio w/ 48GB RAM. Yes, the new spotlight seems powerful and neat, but probably will be useful for only a few. Didn't click with me.

Back in the day, Apple kind of forced the Lion upgrade (from Mountain Lion) because of iCloud. All the new syncing stuff didn't work right on Mountain Lion, so a lot of people (like myself) had to withstand Lion because of new resources. I wonder what they'll do to soft-force us to upgrade to Tahoe now.

It's a pity. I really wanted to enjoy Tahoe, especially because of the liquid design thing. [ EDIT: I got it backwards, it was Snow Leopard before Lion, not Mountain Lion! Thanks to benwiggy. ]
 
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rebelo said:
Who remembers Lion? I thought I could withstand any buggy MacOS after Lion. Tahoe (RC) is making me change my mind. As much as I enjoyed the whole liquid design approach, everything else seems sluggish and out of place even on a MacStudio w/ 48GB RAM. Yes, the new spotlight seems powerful and neat, but probably will be useful for only a few. Didn't click with me.

Back in the day, Apple kind of force the Lion upgrade (from Mountain Lion) because of iCloud. All the new syncing stuff didn't work right on Mountain Lion, so a lot of people (like myself) had to withstand Lion because of new resources. I wonder what they'll do to soft-force us to upgrade to Tahoe now.

It's a pity. I really wanted to enjoy Tahoe, especially because of the liquid design thing.
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how long did you run tahoe? perhaps it was sluggish as spotlight was indexing.

either way, what you're experiencing isn't the norm, and if it were me (it's not, lol) i'd get help with it... rather than going backwards...
 
In my experience, I get better battery time than macOS Sequoia with Tahoe RC. During beta periods battery life became much worse but RC is way better. In Safari, I do get problems with my Bank, but I hope that it gets better. Currently I use Brave.
 
rebelo said:
Apple kind of forced the Lion upgrade (from Mountain Lion) because of iCloud. All the new syncing stuff didn't work right on Mountain Lion, so a lot of people (like myself) had to withstand Lion because of new resources.
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I think you've got that backwards: Lion was first (10.7); Mountain Lion followed (10.8).

The consensus is that Lion had lots of changes that "still needed some work"; and that work was completed in Mountain Lion.
 
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benwiggy said:
I think you've got that backwards: Lion was first (10.7); Mountain Lion followed (10.8).

The consensus is that Lion had lots of changes that "still needed some work"; and that work was completed in Mountain Lion.
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You're completely right! I got it backwards. Before Lion was Snow Leopard, right? That was a hell of a good OS. I remember being unable to keep using Snow Leopard due to of iCloud syncing issues that only worked under Lion. Thanks!
 
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Too bad macOS Tahoe isn’t to your liking. Hopefully a future version will cut it. If not there’s always next year’s macOS version which I expect to be a lot more polished. Basically what OS X Mountain Lion did for OS X Lion. The first macOS version spotting a major overhaul of the interface has always been a bit rough around the edges.
 
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I remember lion being so inspiring it made me into an early adopter. Finally some innovation in pc operating systems.

The last feature macos added was universal control in monterey.

Really looking forward to tahoe though, haven't tried it yet. The transparent menubar and journal app looking forward too.. first nonzero yearly release... since universal control...
 
the odds are, you skip tahoe, wait for what comes next, then it's very similar, with some tweaks, some under-the-hood improvements, and a new feature or 2... but it's not a whole other thing. in which case you could have been running tahoe for a year. 🤷
 
rebelo said:
Before Lion was Snow Leopard, right? That was a hell of a good OS.
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Snow Leopard was only good after two years and 8 point updates. It shipped with a fatal flaw that deleted data. Networking was riddled with bugs until .8, and three of the point updates introduced critical flaws that had to be patched.

It was only good in the memory because most people had moved off emulated PPC code; it was the last 2-year cycle; and Lion was pretty bad.
 
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I enjoyed everything in Tahoe, especially Liquid Glass. But I went back to Sequoia due to one minor app: Contacts. It seems silly from the outside. Not for me. The Contacts app is my daily driver for the past 15 years on MacOS. Got over 6000 cards inside. Tahoe's Contacts app sucks. Anyone who actually use it every day should be aching right now. Apparently, no one at Apple.
 
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I enjoyed everything in Tahoe, especially Liquid Glass. But I went back to Sequoia due to one minor app: Contacts. It seems silly from the outside. Not for me. The Contacts app is my daily driver for the past 15 years on MacOS. Got over 6000 cards inside. Tahoe's Contacts app sucks. Anyone who actually use it every day should be aching right now. Apparently, no one at Apple.
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what specifically is the problem with it?
 
tedson said:
After trying Tahoe for several days I reinstalled Sequoia. The Liquid Glass in Safari was driving me crazy, I missed LaunchPad and they completely ruined the maps app. I've been a Mac user since 1984 and this is the first OS version that I will not run.
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Seems there is mixed feelings about macOS Tahoe. Change is always the issue where some like the change while others get use to something and just want that just to continue. Both are valid options of course.

A new coat of paint gives the impression that it is "new". Change for the sake of change I am not really into. What is underneath and inside is what really matters to some (like me) and I just want a stable, working OS with minimal bugs "now-a-days".

There are times when an interface seems "old" and needs a facelift. Not sure macOS really needed it currently as I still feel since macOS Yosemite and then the jump during macOS Big Sur, the OS interface seems modern and new for the times now, so maybe it is a time for change just to change..or new designers (generation) want to make their mark at Apple.

But times (world) are changing and people want change, so their daily interface with their Mac seems like the trend that people desire again for a "freshness" when banging on their keys.

I'll give macOS Tahoe a try as I always enjoy playing with what's the latest and greatest is in the "new" OS, but I too "might" camp on macOS Sequoia for a year or so on my production Macs while "maybe" upgrading to macOS Tahoe on my daily "general use" MacBook Air just for the sake of change.

I tend to go with the "new", but I want stability so I might be changing my approach this year, but will give macOS a try for a few versions until I give my judgment on it. :cool:
 
rebelo said:
Who remembers Lion? I thought I could withstand any buggy MacOS after Lion. Tahoe (RC) is making me change my mind. As much as I enjoyed the whole liquid design approach, everything else seems sluggish and out of place even on a MacStudio w/ 48GB RAM. Yes, the new spotlight seems powerful and neat, but probably will be useful for only a few. Didn't click with me.

Back in the day, Apple kind of forced the Lion upgrade (from Mountain Lion) because of iCloud. All the new syncing stuff didn't work right on Mountain Lion, so a lot of people (like myself) had to withstand Lion because of new resources. I wonder what they'll do to soft-force us to upgrade to Tahoe now.

It's a pity. I really wanted to enjoy Tahoe, especially because of the liquid design thing. [ EDIT: I got it backwards, it was Snow Leopard before Lion, not Mountain Lion! Thanks to benwiggy. ]
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I remember Lion and I personally did not have issues with it. I noticed that it needed a lot of RAM to run well, but overall, it was ok for me (let's not throw tomatoes at me for saying that) :rolleyes:. MANY loathed Lion, but it was ok to me.

After the initial issues with Snow Leopard (I was coming from Leopard), Snow Leopard became rock solid for me, fast and still is on my old 2010 MacBook Pro - on occasion pull it out and dust it off to use an old program. The USB ports are faster than my modern Macs for some reason (don't know why - I think they are USB 1.1). Mountain Lion was another favorite and good as it was probably the child of Lion. Lion was just a transitional OS and think Mountain Lion was the real goal at the time. Mavericks...well..surf was up, but that wave set was over quickly.

As far as what Apple will do to "soft-force" us to upgrade...they have their ways (and sometimes I am not happy about it) as they are a business and want people to buy another Mac...so we will just have to wait and see.

I will give macOS Tahoe a try for a few versions. Mac Enthusiast will give Apple a chance to please first before throwing it into the trash. This year (and I don't remember ever feeling this way), I am not "enthusiastic" about upgrading as I feel I JUST upgraded to macOS Sequoia a little while ago. But...will give it a try and see.
 
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Seems there is mixed feelings about macOS Tahoe. Change is always the issue where some like the change while others get use to something and just want that just to continue. Both are valid options of course.

A new coat of paint gives the impression that it is "new". Change for the sake of change I am not really into. What is underneath and inside is what really matters to some (like me) and I just want a stable, working OS with minimal bugs "now-a-days".

There are times when an interface seems "old" and needs a facelift. Not sure macOS really needed it currently as I still feel since macOS Yosemite and then the jump during macOS Big Sur, the OS interface seems modern and new for the times now, so maybe it is a time for change just to change..or new designers (generation) want to make their mark at Apple.

But times (world) are changing and people want change, so their daily interface with their Mac seems like the trend that people desire again for a "freshness" when banging on their keys.

I'll give macOS Tahoe a try as I always enjoy playing with what's the latest and greatest is in the "new" OS, but I too "might" camp on macOS Sequoia for a year or so on my production Macs while "maybe" upgrading to macOS Tahoe on my daily "general use" MacBook Air just for the sake of change.

I tend to go with the "new", but I want stability so I might be changing my approach this year, but will give macOS a try for a few versions until I give my judgment on it. :cool:
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fwiw, there are always mixed feelings about every new mac OS. and i'm with you; what's 'under the hood' matters most (altho i do want the GUI to feel good; for me, tahoe feels good). and pretty stable so far...
 
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I upgraded to the RC and it's been smooth sailing for me. My 14" M1 PRO MBP feels much snappier than it was under Sequoia.
 
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any chance apple might for get about liquid glass next year and do something different , or this staying for a couple of years/Macos's ?
 
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the odds are, you skip tahoe, wait for what comes next, then it's very similar, with some tweaks, some under-the-hood improvements, and a new feature or 2... but it's not a whole other thing. in which case you could have been running tahoe for a year. 🤷
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Yep. But they also tone down the extreme ui from the launch version and make it less noticable.

I can't believe im trying a macos on day one.. its literally been over a decade i don't remember the last time i early adopted anything from apple.

So excited :)
 
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loby said:
Seems there is mixed feelings about macOS Tahoe. Change is always the issue where some like the change while others get use to something and just want that just to continue. Both are valid options of course.

A new coat of paint gives the impression that it is "new". Change for the sake of change I am not really into. What is underneath and inside is what really matters to some (like me) and I just want a stable, working OS with minimal bugs "now-a-days".

There are times when an interface seems "old" and needs a facelift. Not sure macOS really needed it currently as I still feel since macOS Yosemite and then the jump during macOS Big Sur, the OS interface seems modern and new for the times now, so maybe it is a time for change just to change..or new designers (generation) want to make their mark at Apple.

But times (world) are changing and people want change, so their daily interface with their Mac seems like the trend that people desire again for a "freshness" when banging on their keys.

I'll give macOS Tahoe a try as I always enjoy playing with what's the latest and greatest is in the "new" OS, but I too "might" camp on macOS Sequoia for a year or so on my production Macs while "maybe" upgrading to macOS Tahoe on my daily "general use" MacBook Air just for the sake of change.

I tend to go with the "new", but I want stability so I might be changing my approach this year, but will give macOS a try for a few versions until I give my judgment on it. :cool:
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Umm...I like macOS Tahoe. :oops:

Apple gives us the option to change things around, and I just first set it to default and it just give just basic glass stuff. I first went all glass to see, but way too much , so I just went back to the default.

Apple is not "making us" convert to the new look and design, but almost like "Hey...try it out...I know you will like it..."

I like the redesign with clean and minimal stuff. I will keep this on MacBook Air and my production Macs I will wait until I feel it is stable enough so it doesn't cause issues with my workflow. Basically using Final Cut Pro, Logic and Motion.

I changed my mind...I kind of like it now... 🤣
 
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How is it ruined? It works just about the same for me as it always has, if I type in an address, it shows it to me.
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If you select a place in maps (say a hotel in a foreign city) and want to create a route from there to point of interest so you can plan a route, either walking of via public transit Sequoia made it easy. I couldn't figure out how to do it in Tahoe. They also screwed up my Guides I made for future travel plans to cities I'll be visiting over the next couple of years.
 
Here is my 2 cents. I have a dual monitor set up and I hate that Spotlight jumps to the active monitor and disappears from the non active monitor. At times I used to jump to the none active monitor to use spotlight to search. May be odd but that is how I work. Now when I jump to the second monitor spotlight is not there and I have to click the menu bar to get it to show up.

Next, Image captures operations is not consistent. It likes to scan old documents ignoring the document that is in the feeder. I do not even know how that is possible for it to scan the document in the feeder but still show me the document I scanned last week.

Trash is even screwed up. I trash a document, lets call this document1, then 20 minutes later I trashed a different document, Let's call this document2. I went to finder to undo the trashing of document2 but it restored document1 and I could only restore document2 by going into the trash can and pulling it out. How have these applications gotten screwed up. Apple please more attention to detail. Nothing just works anymore.
 
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