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Take the Day Off and Make Sweet Beautiful Love To Make Babies
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urrrr....I'm not sure if they taught you this back in school, but you need two people to make babies!
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Ah, how I wish we had a "Stay Home and Make Sweet Beautiful Love To Make Babies" day here in the US.
Maybe I'll call in sick tomorrow...
urrrr....I'm not sure if they taught you this back in school, but you need two people to make babies!
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Yes absolutely right. And capitalism doesn't work and it is therefore unable to give a sustainable soloution to this modern conundrum and it was never more demonstrable than in the previous statement of fact. We have 2 billion old therefore we need more young but they too themselves get old. We now have 4 billion old people and so we need more working young but they themselves are now old. We have 10 billion old and therefore ..... No wilderness, no animals, no space, no privacy just vast factory farms and CCTV brain implants. Just keep rutting and consuming.
Back to the present and near future. Migration will fill the void especially as it is usually from communities that can't stop breeding.
I didn't say I agreed with the plan, it's just that the poster I responded to didn't seem to understand the objective of this particular mayor.
And your logic is completely flawed. There is such thing as a birth rate that keeps the population stable. If that birth rate were achieved in places such as this village in Russia, there wouldn't be a crisis of population either way, too few or too many.
This is still a terrible reason for making babies. You have children so that you can love them and nuture them and enjoy them. You don't have them for patriotic reasons such as propagating the state -- or to win prizes.
Here in Venezuela is the opposite
We have a guy working in my house, he is 23 and he has 2 3 years old doughters from different mothers.
I onced worked with a girl who lived in a getto and she had 4 brothers and two of them died by the crime.
Crime is a big issue here, over populated city, lack of services. There are places where the water arrives on saturdays only. Single mothers with 4 kids.
Better not to have more kids around here.
We have a guy working in my house, he is 23 and he has 2 3 years old doughters from different mothers.
I onced worked with a girl who lived in a getto and she had 4 brothers and two of them died by the crime.
Crime is a big issue here, over populated city, lack of services. There are places where the water arrives on saturdays only. Single mothers with 4 kids.
Better not to have more kids around here.
I think you're missing the point. In Russia, Europe, the United States and Canada, the fertility rate is less than what is required to sustain the current population. In many of these countries, such as Russia and France, the population is shrinking, while in others, such as Canada, the population is only sustained by net migration. Followed to its logical conclusion, in the absence of net migration, the decline of fertility rates in the West and Russia would eventually lead to zero population in these parts of the world. You can argue that the void will be filled with net migration, but this will result in a tremendous change in world demographics. In addition, the resultant loss of biologic diversity in the human species will cause a substantial increase in disease susceptibility and genetic defects. In addition, net migration can never address the relative lack of children in our current demographics, so the imbalance between old and young will continue.
In other words, the low birth rate in the developed world is not much better in ecologic terms than the high birth rate in developing nations.
By the way, unless a socialist system can magically make people able and willing to work into their 80's and 90's, I fail to see how it could improve the current demographic crisis. History has proven socialist societies to be less productive than capitalist societies. So, if the average worker is less productive under a socialist system, then more workers will need to be found to do the same amount of work.
Hello MA. No I didn't think that you agreed with it either! And as for my logic not holding water well the population is increasing exponentially and it has to do so if the present economic model is kept. Kept forever until catastrophe hits. Irreversible catastrophe that is. As an environmentalist I already know we are in the sh*t due to consumerism, waste and over population and the only thing capitalism can come up with is to do it even more; to spend and consume out of recession, breed to increase the young working population to pay for the old etc ad lib to nauseam.
actually france and the US don't really have problems their birth rate is still around 2.0 for a family which is needed to sustain it
really screwed are the central european countries (germany is hit very hard) and eastern europe/japan
for france: they started with big financial benefits for having more than 2 children somewhere in the 20ties since so many young people died in the 1st world war and they are still keeping some of the programms introduced
Population is not increasing exponentially (most experts are predicting that the world population will level off at around 10 billion), and doesn't have to in this present economic model. Sure there need to be a few changes to the economic models around the world, but right now Europe needs more young people to balance (not completely outnumber) out the old, whether it be from immigration or an increased fertility rate. People aren't advocating breeding to create an even bigger old population in the future, but to create a balance (old people die eventually).
(P.S. Just because you're an environmentalist doesn't mean that you know anything about the environment; it just means you want to protect it. I'm an environmentalist, too.)
Could be a matter of great pride, as in "When I came along, we finally got a refrigerator!"
Just imagine being conceived primarily in the hope that your older sister will have a little brother. Around half the world's population probably falls into that scenario.
Come on babies don't come from wanting to have babies. They come from enjoying unprotected sex. We don't have trouble making babies in the US. Its just that what is being born isn't exactly what I would call a choice harvest.
. We don't have trouble making babies in the US. Its just that what is being born isn't exactly what I would call a choice harvest.